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shimmerysilverghosty · 25/10/2010 08:37

Will try to keep as short as possible.

Been split with my ex for about a year, he was to put it bluntly, an absolute pig while together. Since he left he has been living in a shared house.

I live in a HA flat, with secure tenancy etc but it is tiny. 2 dc in a two bedroom flat, if we stay here then I will move into the living room with a sofa bed and they will have a room each - have a dd and a ds, one child has SN.

Ex has had a windfall and wants to move out of his shared house either into a flat of his own so he can have dc overnight etc or will pay for me and the dc to move out of our HA flat and he will move back in while we move into a bigger, with a garden private rented house. He says he wants to do this as he does not like the idea of living in a nice flat of his own while we are stuck here. I believe him when he says this, he loves his dc and has always paid child support on the button.

I would like to move but a very worred about moving out of a secure tenancy into private rented, especially in the current climate. We live in a big city and it is not the best, lots of traffic, cramped flat etc, but we do make the best of it, get out a lot and are relatively happy here, we cannot get a move to a bigger place, the wait list is about 8 years. The kids school is ok, not perfect but whose is? Ds is statemented so would be moving with a statement (another worry). I don't have a great support network but a couple of close friends within about half an hours drive. Not really close to my family and of course ex is here and sees and has the dc a fair amount.

My worries is that in the past ex has not been greatly reliable although I would make sure that we move to a place that I can afford alone, he basically would be providing moving costs and whatever deposit we needed. But I have lived in private rented before and it wasn't always a great experience. I would be moving somewhere out of the city as it is far too expensive to live in private rented here. So everything familiar would change.

So what do you think? If you were in this position would you go or hang onto your secure tenancy for dear life? I feel I am being very rushed too as his tenancy has come to an end at his current place so he wants to move asap, we would basically be moving in the next couple of weeks, worrry about this being disruptive for ds although he is on a reduced time table at school as it is, due to SN. I am also really worried that by moving out I am condeming me and dc to a life time of moving to and from rented places etc, while ex sits pretty in the secure tenancy HA flat as I don't think I would ever get him out again once he was back in. It was hard enough to make him leave when the marriage broke down.

Tell me what to dooooooooo please! Not really but any thoughts and advice, this is a huge decision and I need to get it right for sake of dc.

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BooBooImpaledOnBrokenGlass · 25/10/2010 08:39

Stay put. Do not move back in wiht this guy

ChippedChinaTeacup · 25/10/2010 08:40

Personally I wouldn't give up a secure tenancy, especially with the changes the govt are proposing just now.

Could you try and get a mutual exchange at some point?

KathyImLost · 25/10/2010 08:44

I agree with BooBoo. Don't do it. I don't think he's accepted you've left him yet. If you say it was hard enough getting shot of him the first time, imagine doing it again.

Chil1234 · 25/10/2010 08:44

I would not move house immediately but instead use any money he has spare to make a decision in your own time. You are right to be nervous about needing his money to keep a roof over your head long-term. If you're feeling rushed that's also something you should listen to. The private rental market is fickle and landlords, especially at the moment, are often looking to cash in properties and sell up.

I would prefer to take the cash he's offering and look around for a small place you can afford to buy by yourself. It is a big decision to move from somewhere with which you are familiar but you could also see it as the start of a completely new and genuinely independent life....

Good luck

overmydeadbody · 25/10/2010 08:45

Do not move out of your secure tenancy flat and give it to your ex.

It would be very very risky on your part.

Let him rent the bigger place out in the country for the kids to stay at when they are with him.

You need your security and freedom and indepencence.

a2bed flat isn't too bad. I grew up in a two bedroom flat with four siblings.

Chil1234 · 25/10/2010 08:45

He's not 'moving in' with the OP (is that right?). He's going to take over the HA place and set you up in the private, rented house as I understand it.

shimmerysilverghosty · 25/10/2010 08:46

No I definitely would NOT be moving back in WITH him, he would move back in here and me and dc would move to a bigger place with a garden.

Mutual exchange is not really an option as everyone and I mean everyone is trying to move upwards to 3 bedroom and garden, no-one wants a 2 bedroom place.

My gut tells me I would be mad to give up a secure tenancy but am I hanging onto that at the expense of dc having a nice life in a nice home? btw it is not bad on our flat, have done it up nicely etc and I don't mind moving into the living room, will re-decorate and get nice Ikea bed sofa.

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Squitten · 25/10/2010 08:46

I definitely wouldn't do it. As you say, he's not reliable and you have the children so are in more need of security than he is

SuePurblybilt · 25/10/2010 08:49

Do not move under any circumstances! You're still letting him control too much if he is able to "suggest" where you live and take over your tenancy.
If he wants to help with his windfall, maybe suggest you spend a small amount making the flat nice, that will obviously be nice for you but also help you exchange. Or pay for a holiday for the children? Or put it in an ac count?
Reading between the lines he's only talking about giving you a few thousand (deposit and moving costs), is it really worth giving up security and control for that? I'm not playing down the amount (that's half my yearly income!) but it's not a lottery win, he's not suggesting he keep you in a new house for life. You'll be on your own, paying market rent by the sound of it.

SuePurblybilt · 25/10/2010 08:51

Sorry, x posted re the decor and exchange
I would rather grow up with security than a garden/extra bedroom.

shimmerysilverghosty · 25/10/2010 08:52

"Reading between the lines he's only talking about giving you a few thousand (deposit and moving costs), is it really worth giving up security and control for that? I'm not playing down the amount (that's half my yearly income!) but it's not a lottery win, he's not suggesting he keep you in a new house for life. You'll be on your own, paying market rent by the sound of it."

Thats it, you have summed it up 100%. Things can change can't they? I know he wants what is best for his dc, I know that, he loves them and makes more effort to see them than I would have imagined when we split but I am sure at some point he will meet someone else and his priorities are going to change and I will be stuck out there in private rented. My HA is particuarly good as well, any repair, I just ring them up and round they come and do it.

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Chil1234 · 25/10/2010 08:57

You've answered your own question, then. Stay in control of your own accommodation, use any spare cash he's got to improve life and/or provide you with some 'rainy day money'. On the sleeping front, how about dividing the biggest bedroom into two with screens/curtains/shelves so that the children can still share and you still have a separate living room? Keep applying for an upgrade in accommodation... persistence is an underrated quality.

MUHAHAHADascheese · 25/10/2010 08:58

Stay put.

You know it's the right thing to do, stick to your guns

lisad123isgoingcrazy · 25/10/2010 08:59

personally I wouldnt move but get onto LA ASAP as you are overcrowded and may be able to get medical points for your LO with SN. I would suggest to ex that he puts the money into your saving for when you move you will need it for moving.

SuePurblybilt · 25/10/2010 09:01

FWIW I'm in a HA house and newly single (again) but they'd have to drag me out. My DD is four and this is her sixth home. You really can't put a value on security. Easy for me to say I know because I finally have a garden but I really think staying put is better for your children, unless you can be sure it'll be a move for a good long time.

shimmerysilverghosty · 25/10/2010 09:15

I don't think it would be for a long time. He says we will do this for six months and by then he will be doing so well he will buy as a place. So my thoughts are, why not stay for the six months rather than shunt kids around, just move then and also how the hell am I going to keep him out of a house HE has bought for us?

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SuePurblybilt · 25/10/2010 09:17

Well quite. Why can't he save the windfall and in six months use it as a deposit on the place he says he's going to buy you?

shimmerysilverghosty · 25/10/2010 09:22

Well you would think so wouldn't you? But this is the man who managed to blow a massive bonus (just less than 20 grand) in a month. He says he wants to do something worthwhile with this money but can't guarantee it will still be around in 6 months. He just isn't reliable but says he will be if I would just give him the chance to be. Apparently it is my lack of trust in him that makes him the way he is Hmm, he is so sure of this that I do find myself wondering if I should give him a chance.....

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Chil1234 · 25/10/2010 09:29

You've given him lots of chances, by the sound of it, and - with the exception of paying maintenance - he's let you down. You've learned something from that experience... he thinks leopards change their spots. Really, when someone starts blaming their own irresponsibility on others just because they are more cautious or sensible then that's a really lousy argument :)

This is about 'control'... all the time you are independent you are in control over your own destiny. And if you are independent he can be as unrealible as he likes and you won't suffer any more as a result. Now, to me, that's worth sleeping on a sofa-bed.

shimmerysilverghosty · 25/10/2010 09:35

Yes agree Chil1234. I was just scared that my cautiousness (is that a word?) is preventing my dc from having a better life in a nicer home. I also worry that he will get himself a lovely place now and my dc will prefer it there, silly things really.

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Chil1234 · 25/10/2010 09:52

'Home is where the heart is'. Your children, I'm guessing, love living where they do because the arguments have stopped and mummy looks happier. Even if your ex moved into a mansion next week and bought them both a pony they would still feel the same way about you and still regard the flat as 'home'.

onceamai · 25/10/2010 09:53

Agree with Chil1234. Stay put - get some money for him to spend on the children though and sounds like you all deserve a holiday. Good luck - stay firm - stay independent. You sound really sensible and better times will come.

EricNorthmansMistress · 25/10/2010 09:56

Get him to give you some of the cash to put away for the DCs. Tell him you will think about your options but in the meantime he is welcome to take a 6 month tenancy on a bigger place which would be nice for the DCs when they visit.

Put the money away and stay put. I know that a small 2 bed for you and 2 DCs isn't ideal but it's not overcrowded. You can employ clever storage solutions and even get a fold up bed for you if necessary. My friend has 3 DC in a HA 2 bed bungalow and her ex offered her exactly the same thing, she chose to stay put. She was worried about him not paying the rent on her house, having to find the rent on a PR house, being served notice at anytime etc. Her DCs might have no space but they are happy. In fact her ASD DD states that she never ever wants to move out of that house and very much needs the familiarity of home.

BuntyPenfold · 25/10/2010 10:00

Do not leave your secure tenancy for any reason (unless you win the lottery). He is trying to get you out for a reason - so that he can have it.
Once you leave, you are shafted.

shimmerysilverghosty · 25/10/2010 10:16

Everything you are saying is what my gut is telling me, I think he is going to be quite cross though and will probably refuse to give me any cash to do this place up, he never saw the point on spending money on this place even when together "whats the point its not ours" no but it is a life time tenancy that we can pass onto our kids so it really is the next best thing.

I am mad to even consider leaving aren't I?

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