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grownupmum · 21/10/2010 11:01

Is it unreasonable for single people like my daughter to have to save VERY hard to buy a flat ,yet if she were pregnent she would be given one ? Will this change with the budget cuts ? ,I'm fed up of working and paying tax to support girls that could easily stay at home ( as I would have had to)

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northernrock · 21/10/2010 11:04

Yes!! YABU!!
I was a single pregnant girl, and believe me no-one gave me a flat!!
If I had had a disability as well, or been in an abusive relationship, then maybe.
But just being pregnant does not get you a flat. It's a myth!

Chil1234 · 21/10/2010 11:04

People are not given flats just because they are pregnant. If they are homeless and pregnant, possibly. If they and their baby mean their family home is deemed overcrowded, possibly. Most find the first port of call is some grim hostel-style accommodation - not a lush penthouse. Saving for a flat is tough but at least she'll have something tangible at the end of the day.... and no government will be able to take it away either.

MillyR · 21/10/2010 11:12

I'm assuming that your daughter isn't saving to buy a flat, but is actually saving to take a mortgage out on a flat.

So if in the future, your daughter has children, and your daughter is made redundant, or has a child with needs that require your daughter to give up work , she will live on the streets rather than expect the tax payer to pay benefits for the interest on her mortgage?

Can I also safely assume that in the event of your daughter having children, she won't be placing any burden on the tax payer by claiming maternity pay, child tax credits, or child benefit? Can I also assume your daughter will be privately educating her children and giving birth in a private hospital? After all, you wouldn't want to cause any expense to tax payers.

DuelingFanjo · 21/10/2010 11:15

no one is given a flat, they rent one.

Could your daughter rent one?

BlueGreen · 21/10/2010 11:15

Dont work hard, in fact dont even work. Just tell the councel that you are in abusive relationship(they may not even ask you why you are still in a relationship if it is abusive!). And once you are giving a house call your husband or partner in so that you can happly live ever after. Living on our(tax payers) money. Dont you think it's a geart idea? Grin

colditz · 21/10/2010 11:18

nobody gets given a flat for being pregnant.

people get 'accomadated' in B & B's, minus the breakfast, if they are pregnant and homeless.

Would you like to sleep in a B & B, minus breakfast (unless you care to pay for it) with no cooking facilities? No? What's that you say - you'd have to be desperate?

Well, so are the women who are accomodated by the council. They are desperate.

ApocalypseCheese · 21/10/2010 11:22

Ave never heard of anyone being 'given' a house. Utter rubbish Hmm

colditz · 21/10/2010 11:23

BlueGreen, you seem to know an awful lot about it - am I to assume that this is what you did?

ShirleyGarrote · 21/10/2010 11:24

I got given a house once. It was a great big one with a red bow on it and my fiancee has designed it for us to live in when we got married, but then I just didn't really fancy him anymore and he had a one night stand with Goldie Hawn and she moved into the house and hi-jinks ensued.

PirateScaredyCat · 21/10/2010 11:24

it's a myth, op.

Giddyup · 21/10/2010 11:29

Yep, its an easy life for single mums, I would tell your daughter to get knocked up herself ASAP. Working and owning her own home will never give her as much joy or be better in the long run as being stigmatised by society and kept in a poverty trap for years. I expect if she gets preggo by an illegal immigrant she will get an even bigger house as its well publicised "they" come over here and take all our jobs, benefits and social housing. FFS!

sparkle12mar08 · 21/10/2010 11:29

On you trot... Can't be bothered to engage with such crap...

northernrock · 21/10/2010 11:33

Innit.

mamadiva · 21/10/2010 11:37

OP whoever is giving you this information is talking BOLLOCKS!

I was'nt a single parent but my DP and I were homeless when I was 6 months pregnant so we moved into my mums house. A 3 bedroom home, oh and it was'nt just her who lived there. There was also my mums partner, my 11YO brother and the twins that my mum had 4 months earlier. But because we had somewhere to live and it was'nt too overcrowded Hmm we lived there until DS was 3mo when we finally got a nice home from the housing association.

There is also the fact that, when my mum moved out of said home because her partner was being a twat, she and the 3 kids (now 15 and two 5YO) were going to be put in ONE ROOM a B&B without the breakfast bit and without anywhere to cook or store much of anything! Again though thankfully they deemed it not really fair for a 15YO boy to be sharing a room with his mum so she is now in a v.nice 3 bedroom council house which is also a homeless unit, so yet more uncertainty.

So please OP don't think that us mere mortals get an easy time of it! Think of it as a drain on your taxes or whatever but I would far consider people who are not even thinking of working and sitting around taking money are far more of a problem don't you? :o

Anniegetyourgun · 21/10/2010 11:39

Colditz, I think Bluegreen was referring to another thread in which the OP proposed this as a genuine way forward. For some reason many posters were unsympathetic.

BlueGreen · 21/10/2010 11:42

Colditz, I was actually being sarcastic and was refering other post on here. As there is a woman who is actually asking us to advice her to cheat the system.

Benefits are there for the people who really are in need. Not for people who decided!!! to have an easy life and everything paid for them cause they have kids and they dont want to be with their "abusive" husbands or partners!

I never understood how a person who lives on benefits can go to overseas holidays and have an iphone and a flat screen tv. I do work full time and dont have an iphone or flat screen tv. and certainly i can not go on overseas holidays every year. But I can proudly say that I'm not living on benefits.

Now, some of you will say that I'm jealous cause i dotn have those. Well hell yes! I'm jealous cause I should be getting those cause I'M working hard unlike those scum bags!

ShirleyGarrote · 21/10/2010 11:44

BlueGreen - they buy and eat cheese strings as well.

colditz · 21/10/2010 11:49

Some people commit benefit fraud. For some reason, this seems to have become muddled in people's heads as synonymous with "being on benefits"

If you say the word benefit - the next word is always "Cheats"

The truth is, the majority of people who are on benefits are NOT fraudulant, they are NOT cheats. But they are invisible. You won't see them in the pub, you won't see them on holiday, you won't see them gaily flinging flatscreen tvs into their shopping baskets - you won't see them at all.

What you will see is the 1% of claiments who decide to make life utterly miserable for everyone on benefits by giving them a bad reputation.

Giddyup · 21/10/2010 11:52

When I was on benefits the only way I could afford to replace broken appliances would have been to get dirt cheap new ones using a credit card or an Argos type "spread the cost" card. How would one go about getting a non flat screen analogue T.V nowadays if they didn't have any cash to pay for a 2nd hand one? I appreciate they could just not have a T.V as I go years at a time without one. I would have had difficulty getting a 2nd hand one even with cash as I didn't have a car to collect it.

I just think although amusing, the perennial "benefits and flat screen T.V" Line trotted out on here needs to be updated as flat screen T.Vs have been the only ones commercially available for at least a few years now! Maybe the new 3D T.Vs would better provoke the inteneded level of righteous indignation ?

Giddyup · 21/10/2010 11:53

*intended! [hgrin]

Igglybuff · 21/10/2010 11:55

YABU

jemjabella · 21/10/2010 11:58

My cunt of a drug-taking brother beat shit out of his girlfriend (the mother of my niece and nephew). It took two years of constant searching, applying, knock backs and living in a scummy refuge to finally get a hole of a house in the lowest of low areas.

Being on benefits with kids/a pregnancy doesn't give you a free ride to your own flat. Don't be so bloody stupid.

toddlerama · 21/10/2010 12:09

Very good point Giddyup!

izzywizzywoowooo · 21/10/2010 12:14

BG - We all know someone with all the mod cons on benefits, these stories are getting a little boring now...

Shock Horror I've just become a single mum, and yes I get IS and CTC and CB. Also started studying for a degree. No I do not have I-Phone and have never been abroad so don't judge others by these people you "know"

nobodyisasomebody · 21/10/2010 12:48

Oh fuck off. Ignorant, stupid and out of date twaddle.

Go back to The Daily Mail. Angry

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