AIBU to think that Labour are to blame

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and the Tories are doing their best to put things right?

get well soon Maggie, we could do with you now.

CAn't say if yabu or not as you've not explained why you think it's Labour's fault.

nerdy - not funny. let it go!

No I think Labour tried their best to protect people ultiamely, and regardless of outcome I actually prefer someone who tries their best over someoone who is willing to sacrifice the disabled and bulnerable low paid workers over an ideology.

Well the person who said 'Argie' clearly thought it was offensive otherwise they wouldn't have followed it with pc gorn maaaaaaad. And given that (s)he was suggesting a war I'm going to assume that it wasn't an endearment. I think it probably just indicates that the speaker us a. Ill educated b. Xenophobic and c. Possibly from 1982.

1. labour run a defecit and increase the ntional debt
2. recession happens
3. defecit needs bringing down in a time of recession in order to prevent catastrophic levels of debt
4. libcon need to makesharp cuts

ergo -

5. labour caused the need for cuts.

YADNBU the way people have already forgotten the way in which Labour carried on endlessly borrowing was a disgrace and now the tories and the liberals are going to have to sort it out.

Liberals? Barely a policy lib dem vioters for remains; theya re not liberals any more, tehy ahve become very firmly Tory.

Which is their opytion as individuals but they should fess up nonetheless. Courage of your convictions and all that.

There a lot of Liberal policies being implemented by the coalition

And don;t be blind to why Labour had soem costs (not that I am denyting things went too far in some ways, I didn;t vote for them last time).

Housing costs via HB- spiralled becuase of Tory sell off policy.
Those areas fo joblessness they love to decry so much- high incapacity-as-was etc: becmae that way under Tory cuts (and yes there might have been an argument for the cuts in certain areas but there was no successful regeneration either).

It's at the very least a mixed bag: yup, labour didn't solve it either but if you dig back into the aetiology of the issues- it'sblue.

I beelive that by teh end of today we have a 50% chance of being homeless- actually landlord has said she makes her decision whether to continue renting based on today. We're a family with a Carer, the ones the tories and LibDems pledged to protect. I ahve yet to towrk out why we have so suddenly become disposable. You know, I even had a job interview next week for a decent grduate level role but social services couldn't help with emergency SN childcare over half term (half term club closed becuase venue has room allocation issues). It's no wonder people feel abandoned is it?

EdgarAllInPink

I will not let it go!
Her government made my parents lives a living hell during the 80's!!
My father was made homeless and the same nearly happened to my mother!

I will NOT be content untill she is on a burning longboat salling off into the seas a la viking burial!

It's ideological as Gideon said. Really if you can't see that you'd buy anything! They're TORIES. They cut stuff. That's what they do. That's pretty much what they're FOR.

OP, you were clearly very drunk when you posted this.

Gideon House prices didn't spiral because of the selling of council houses. House prices rose due to the availibility of cheap credit in the economy

Nerdy face please can I come and watch? :)

DialMforMother

Happily, we don't even have to wait till she's passed on if you like?..Just whack her in a pedalo and douse it in Gasoline!

Hmmm, well I have to admit I've never forgiven Labour for the shame of Iraq and Afghanistan. But, given this recession is world wide, you can't exactly lay the blame for that solely at Gordon Brown's door (much as the Tories would like us to believe, so much easier to have a scapegoat to blame everything on isn't it?) In fact, you could argur (and this is the general opinion across much of the world with the possible exception of the Murdoch media) that GB was to blame for saving the UK from the depths of debt that now haunt Greece, Iceland and Ireland. Rember the Celtic tiger? Not so sunny there now is it.

Anyhoo..... Do I think the Tories will save us from doom? Hell no. They've shown themselves to be spectacularly incapable of choosing chancellors with the ability to do simple sums. First Oliver Letwin. remember him? Managed to miscalculate to the tune of billions when presenting a shadow budget before the election when he was in the shadow chancellor post. And now Gideon, a man whose only qualification for the job appears to be that he's from a wealth family and was a mate of Dave's at university. There is, surely, a wealth of economic talent within the Tory party (she says hopefully) They've simply shown that the old school tie and ideology is still more important to them than the practicalties.

YABU.

Look around the world: Ireland, Greece, others.. If it were all Labour's fault, why would these countries be facing similar austerity measures?

No Hudd it wa both; I know many who bought houses way above their reach becuase they didn;t want the complete insecurity of private rental and knew they had no hope of state help. Most have clung on but it dosn;t take much- a sickness, redudnancy etc- to knock people off track.

Demand pushes prices up.

yes they should not have been given credit but AFAIK Gordon wasn;t sat in the banks signing loan agreements.

The whole own your house whatever thing has caused many nightmares: a decent private sector with security or a public housing sector able to cope- either would be fine. Ad in the whole yuppie era legacy of judging people by their visible wealth- name brands, that handbag someone mentioned, car- and you create an explosive mix. That comes from both ideologies.

I would EVEN have Blair back as our prime minister than Cameron..

The bottom line is the same as it always is under a Tory government.

Bend over, peasants, and take it right up the arse. Without lube.

On another thread I have just been told off by a tory voter for spending some of my CA and TC's on retraining.

How very dare I try and change things eh?

Boffin, SWC etc- some people give you lot a bad name! Luckily most of us can see that tories can have compassion but blimey there are some people doing their best to really damage your image.

arses the recession causes cuts, and is global. the enormity of the nationl debt is right at Browns door...

Explain yourself.

Also, can you explain how axeing 500,000 jobs will stimulate the economy please?

Labour should take some of the blame so YNBU there. But YABU to think that the Tories are doing thier best to put things right, All the cuts they are planning will only put more people out of work and will leave a lot of people worse of then they are now.