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to quite like Liz Jones

58 replies

bethjeff · 08/10/2010 22:52

I can agree that perhaps she doesn't always make the best choices and moans a bit.

But I honestly don't think she is as bad as people are keen to make out.

In fact, I like her

Flame away!

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TheCrackFox · 10/10/2010 16:11

I feel sorry for Liz, it strikes me that she has never, ever been happy. She seems to have been a miserable soul since the day she was born.

Indaba · 11/10/2010 08:28

YABVVVVU

Rarely have I got so inflamed about a AIBU post!

I suggest you name change immediately and get MNHQ to delete your post in case someone uses it to try and track you down in RL.

bethjeff · 11/10/2010 09:26

Lol Indaba, it's ok I'm already in hiding!
And my real name is not bethjeff its lizjones....

Argh bugger!!

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NestaFiesta · 11/10/2010 21:54

Bethjeff/Liz, how can you like anyone eho says and beleives the following:

"Only parents who adopt or foster should get special treatment; not the vain, self-obsessed, middle-class mums who have children only to get time off work and receive baby-shower gifts.

For example, the child-free should get cat credits and puppy leave. But we are discriminated against."

bethjeff · 11/10/2010 22:30

She does have a point that (not just) women who don't have children are still expected to chip in for baby gifts etc in the workplace yet we won't ever have to do that for them if they are not intending to have children.
I'm about to return to work from Mat leave and I actually feel sorry for my colleagues because they'll need to retrain me and have their workloads shifted because I'm going PT. I won't have to do this for them because they are all past childbearing age or are gay men.

Thus, becoming a parent is an amazing thing but it is unreasonable to expect everybody to celebrate your giving birth when it is a natural everyday occurance.

So yeah, I would love to reward my colleagues for keeping my job going over the last year so if they are looking for cat credits or a day off for puppy leave I'd be inclined to give them it because they deserve it as much as anybody else.

I think it would be unfair to say that she doesn't have a point Nesta, but I would agree that she is a bit forthcoming with how she goes about phrasing these things.

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TinyJen · 12/10/2010 14:48

Even if she's joking/writing for effect some of the time, now and then she'll say things which are just so despicable as to be unbelievable. Example - some years ago she wrote that she was quite relieved when her mother started showing signs of Altzheimers as it meant she didn't have to worry about her (mum) telling someone her (Jones') true age. Even as a joke - and I don't think she actually has a sense of humour - that's a horrible thing to say anywhere, much less in a national newspaper. And yes, she does seem to trylu hate anyone who has a nice family life, children and friends. In short, everything she doesn't.

Further, she persists in telling complete lies: she claims not to have had a holiday in 30 years, yet her books and articles going back to 1999 are full of her going off to Nepal, Italy, Tanzania and the like. Possibly her worst lie was when she claimed that in response to an article that was published on a Sunday, she got a sackload of mail the following day (this was the cheques, etc., from pensioners). There haven't been Sunday collections in the UK since October 2007.

Some folk here have said "well, she loves animals so she must be OK", but the evidence is that she likes animals for their unquestioning loyalty, but when it comes to making a hard decision to put them out of their misery - for example, a chicken that (allegedly) had cancer - she'd rather pay silly money for equally silly holistic remedies while the animal continues to suffer, for months if not years. That's not love, that's close to being selfish. She also seemed surprised when the locals weren't happy about her dog killing a sheep.

Finally, and worst of all, she's a piss-poor excuse for a journalist. Grin

NestaFiesta · 12/10/2010 16:07

I'm with TinyJen.

AbsofCroissant · 12/10/2010 17:04

Well, I sometimes read her columns. Some times I think she's very annoying (see her column complaining about flying EasyJet, where she managed to squeeze in a mention of at least 5 designer labels. E.g. she didn't have to just put her jacket in the tray at security, but it was her chanel jacket) but mostly I think she needs to see someone. She has a lot of mental issues which need working through. I feel quite sorry for her.

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