to feel that the Government are doing an excellent job

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in getting lower income mothers to snipe at wealthier ones. And vice versa.

In getting WOHMs to snipe at SAHMs (like they needed help). And again, vice versa.

And in getting parents of all incomes to seeth with resentment at the elderly.

I'm sure there are some more successes. Feel free to add some...

You honestly think any government would do away with the NHS?

There still IS a welfare system - it's not being scrapped, it's just being more tightly controlled. Something labour never, ever got a handle on.

Here's what I don't understand. I've seen comments from people on MN saying, 'well, I don't need my CB...' Fine. Don't apply for it, or if already applied for, why not call up the nice people at the CB office and say you don't want it anymore.

Chill-the main thing I disagree with you on is choices.... are you saying that we should stop working our arses off to live where we do and move away and bring up our children away from all of our family that are dotted around the SE?? don't be silly........! of course we all have choices and want to try and do the best we can, but none of us have a crystal ball....it really isn't as simple as you're making it sound.....

It makes me mad to hear that "we are all in it together" from Cameron when in the nicest way he doesn't live in the 'real world'. It sometimes feels that if you do the right things and work hard regardless of what you do, youre never really much better off.

Nancy in all honesty I think they'll have a bloody good go, given time.

I don't think anything is sacred. Or safe for that matter.

Mad!!!- gotta rise up Mums. What would Emily Pankhurst have done. Don't stand for this Tory bullying!!! This Child benefit cut is a slap in the face to stay at home mums particularly! I'm off to chain myself and the buggy to parliament!! I bet Sam and Dave won't miss CB???

Just said similar on one of the other threads that is full of people who will lose their CB.

So a household with income of say £60,000 and one child have being told they will lose £20 a week in 3 years time.

Compare that to a household with income of say £17,000 and one child being told they will lose £20 a week from next week because even though you told us correct figures we have overpaid your CTC. It's not nice to lose money but poorer families have this happen most years.

I'm not sniping at wealthier people just the ones moaning about the above situation.

Also very worried about what DC is going to announce next, think this was a sweetener to start on their real targets. Hope not.

it is prioritising needs, that is undeniable.

I think the really clever thing the Tories have accomplished is in getting so many people to look at their insane attacks on the Welfare state and say 'ahhhhhh well I blame the Labour party'. Well don't because, and this is the important bit, IT'S NOT THE LABOUR PARTY WHO ARE DOING IT.

Although if I had voted for this shower of shit government I might be trying to pass the buck right now.

I wouldn't trust George Osborne to be in charge of the money in my daughter's piggy bank.

" are you saying that we should stop working our arses off to live where we do and move away and bring up our children away from all of our family that are dotted around the SE?? don't be silly........! "

If it were 'silly' I wouldn't have done it myself in the past and wouldn't be considering doing it again in the future. And rather than a crystal ball I'd recommend a history book. You don't have to look that far back to see that recession and downturns are inevitable - and it pays to be prepared.

Wow, lots of fights on this thread.

Clearly YANBU, OP

And purely from a financial point of view, with families being hit so hard, wait and watch for a double dip recession.

On Friday I was listening to BBC World News where they had a leading economist saying that:

• in the last 2 years, ie since the recession started, the rich (taken from the Forbes Rich List) have seen their wealth grow an average 8%.

• the massive cuts couple with increased and unprecedented inflation (think energy, etc)will plundge us all in a double dip recession as households are increasingly squeezed and can no longer afford to spend one extras.

• Meanwhile banks, petrol companies and energy companies are making the highest profits on record;

• The whole of Western Europe will now only see a slight recovery at the start of 2015, whereas previously it had been predicted at 2012.

There are also double the amount of people out of work.

So getting out of the deficit doesn't seem to be helping in any way in the medium term.

so you suggest we carry on as we were? cos it doesn't help in the medium term?! Also...you do know one economist will read entirely the same scenario differently to the next don't you?

As for moving to where the jobs are...well yes this works to a degree but there is always a high concentration of available employment in densely populated urban areas...and less so in rural areas. Funnilly enough a lot of these urban areas are amongst the most expensive places to live in the country. Anyone working in or around London for example has a higher rental or mortgage bill on average than in other areas, higher commuting costs, potentially higher childcare costc as nurseries have higher overheads and every childminder seems to charge a premium! If ALL of these people were to move out of town looking for a cheaper life, you'd just be moving the problem around the country, mass migration will simply create the issue elsewhere...major hubs need a lot of workers, who sadly earn not a lot more than in other geographies at are at the mercy of higher costs. Very naive to suggest EVERYONE should/could up sticks to rectify this! infact totally bonkers.

Coraltoes- totally agree.........
And also I for one wouldn't want to move my children away from loving grandparents and family.....