To get my neighbour sectioned???

[iliketosleep]

I need some advice on a problem neighbour but i think he may have mental health issues!

Some of his history.

He moved into the street about 20 years ago after winning the pools, his wife ran off with another man about 7 years later.

We moved here last August but I grew up in the house 3 doors away where my Mum and Dad still live. We always used to play football outside the front of the house in the road and if our ball ever went down his drive he would run out and stab it. He also had a friend of mine up the fence by the throat. We were only 11, His dad came down and twatted him [thumbs up]

When my brother was 13 (he's now 20) he and a friend were sitting on the wall outside my parents house watching the bats that live in the roof of a house about 4 doors away from me. Neighbour came out with a video camera shoved it in brothers face and said "you were throwing stones at my house, why are you looking threw my windows? I know my rights, your gonna get locked up" My mum came out and covered the lens with her hand, ushered brother and friend inside and called the police. He was cautioned.

Another of my friends from the street moved into a house a couple of doors away and is a keen runner. Every day she used to go for a run, get home, go upstairs and change. Everyday neighbour used to stand in his garden with a pair of binoculars waiting for her. Her husband dealt with him.

Phew, this is a long post and I'm only half way through lol

When we moved in we had some bedroom furniture delivered quite late in the afternoon so had to wait till the kids went to bed before we put it together. I accidentally dropped a piece of wood and he shouted "SHUT UUUUUUUP" through the wall. The next day DH saw him in the garden, so opened the window and shouted "sorry about last night mate......" Neighbour interupted With "fuck off you stupid cunt, I know my rights and your gonna get fucked you twat just wait"

Yes this man knows his rights! grin

Fast forward a month or so and theres a knock at the door. It was enviromental health, they have had reports that my television is too loud and my alarm clock goes off in the morning (!) I ask if she can hear my tele from the doorstep and she admits that she can't, I asked her if alarm clocks were supposed to go off...lol She left nothing more was said or done.

Fast forward again to July. Enviromental health ring me to say they have had complaints that my alarm clock was going off. I told them that this was the idea of them and he wont have to worry for another 6 weeks as its the 6 weeks holidays.

Fast forward to the last 2 weeks. DH works nights so once the kids are in bed the house is pretty much silent. I have heard the occasional shout at around 12am.

Last week I had just come out the bath and had gone to get changed when there was a banging on the wall and neighbour shouted "shut up you fucking wanker aaarrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh". Worrying! Then from then there have been again the occasional shout but last night he went to bed singing at the top of his voice slamming doors etc at one point it was like an elephant walking up hollow stairs. Then tonight From about half past 9 this evening I have been hearing alot of AAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH and WANKER FUCKING WANKER. His tele is up loud enough for me to know he is watching american and not long ago it was if he had come up to the wall to shout and it was a blood curdling sound like he is hurt. He isn't he's just a knob, but its scaring me

Does this behaviour sound familiar to anyone or what can I do, He only does it when DH is at work

But we don't have to live next door to him altinkum - and it sounds like he's displayed very odd behaviours in the past. If it was an isolated incident, perhaps I'd agree with you, but it's not.

I said I do sympathise as I know what it's like living with someone who has become very ill, aggressive and frightening. You have said you don't like him and that's fine. But saying on one hand that he's possibly mentally ill and on the other hand that you don't like him because he's a "loony" is a bit off. As I said, names from the neighbours don't help, and if you are in that situation or one of your family is in that situation, the thought that the neighbours are calling you a nob, a loony or a psycho makes things worse. It's not a nice situation for anyone. Take everyone's advice here - keeping a record, calling the police if things become unpleasant and if there is a problem they will contact social services.

X posts with altinkum. Similar sentiments though.

Perhaps OP is being unreasonable and unrealistic to seek to get her neighbour sectioned. Perhaps many of us are uncomfortable with Mental Health or other issues, and being uncomfortable about such issues, sometimes people use inappropriate language and terminology.

At the very least, though, the OPs neighbour's behaviour is anti-social.

Hmm I don't see how me calling HIM anything is labelling others to be honest but i'm not about to get into a war over it.

I haven't spoke to him since I have lived here and I'm not about to. He is free to do whatever the hell he likes so long as he stops scaring the bejesus out of me by doing his incredible hulk act.

I could have phoned the police last night cause it really did sound like he had got hurt but i figured that if they turn up and he's just drunk then what will he do when they have gone and he knows it was me that called them? Stuck between a rock and a hard place :(

If he does that, you call the police again and you keep doing it until the police do something. You shouldn't be frightened in your own home.

"... It appears he's actually a loony."

How intelligent of you, OP

I have no doubt he's an utter pain to live next to. His behaviour sounds like my Dad's who was finally diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic after years of mentally ill behaviour.

However, unless he is a danger, a clear danger (I doubt that swearing and burping in his garden counts) to himself or others, the police can't do much. As others have said, you can't just get someone sectioned. We lived with my Dad's bizarre and frightening behaviour for 15 years and WE couldn't get him sectioned, never mind a next door neighbour.

Don't be so quick to assume that the "loony" is targetting you with his screaming and ranting on the other side of the wall. You have no concept of what compulsions and terrors may be going through his head. You are probably only seeing/hearing the tip of the iceberg.
Report him to the police for domestic disturbance if you hear anything in future, at least it will ensure he is well known to them (although he is likely to be already).

And try to be a little more enlightened about mental illness. I know it's hard to live near (but this is your choice, OP!), but be grateful you're not going through what he is.

Ok I apologise for calling him names (on here, not in my head )

AS a Police Officer there is little the Police can do here.

He might be swearing but he is not threatening you ( is he calling you wankers or himself?) and as his behaviour is in his own home he is not committing any public order offences.

You can contact the envtl health dept as it is basically a noise complaint.

If he was acting like this in the street the Police could possibly detain for a mental health assessment.

Don't be so quick to assume that the "loony" is targetting you with his screaming and ranting on the other side of the wall. You have no concept of what compulsions and terrors may be going through his head. You are probably only seeing/hearing the tip of the iceberg.

I have wondered if he is talking to voices in his head, but the fact that he is banging on my wall shouting shut up makes me think he is talking to me. Then I start thinking what I've done wrong. Did I walk across the bedroom to loudly? Can he hear the squeaky door? Then I proceed to tip toe out and pull the door shut as quietly as I can. Its no way to live. Makes me a bit on edge when it comes to funtime with DH too

Sixtyfootdoll - The jurys out on that one but as I don't actually know his mental state and he lives alone I can only pressume he is talking to me. The fact he always does it when DH is at work is a bit too!

maybe His last couple attempts with enviromental health hven't worked so he's pushing and pushing to get a reaction so he has something to report???

Thinking out loud here, ignore me lol

It must be really scary for you as he is so unstable.

If you havent already done so start keeping a diary of times/ dates/ events.
This will help envtl health and you may be able to show 'harrassment'.

Contat your local council as they may well have an anti social behaviour co-ordiantor, our council has one and they are very good in these cases which fall short of criminla matters.

If no joy aske to speak to your local ward officer at the Police Station - your local force should have a website that will tell you who your local officer is.

I will do that thanks :)

If you gain more understanding about his behaviour and possible condition, not only will you be less likely to be frightened and less likely to think it's all about you, you'll be less inclined to call an ill man names and consider it justified.

That you think his ranting and behaviour is about you, shows how little you understand about mental illness.

Some understanding will lead to your being less scared, OP. But you should still call the police - for his sake too - if you hear something disturbing.

If you could have nieghbourhood sectioning there would be nobody left in my street except the last.Get the enviromental unit out ,they are usually good at coming round at night too as often like your case not much happens during the day.also try sleeping in in the morning and explain to people you can't set your alarm as it upsets the nieghbour he he he.My son has this problem with a guy who suffers from auditory dellusions and I know it's not fun so chin up and get on to the council.

  ps  My son has had enough but can't sell his house because of this guy,he has to be disclosed as a bad nieghbour to propective buyers.

Well it just gets stranger and stranger....

My mum has just popped round and said when she got to the top of the drive he looked at her (he sits with his curtains open and lights on). He then pointed lifted a remote and pointed it towards the window. Not towards my mum but as if he was switching something on in the corner of the room (opposite to where his tele is). I told her when she left to turn around and ask me something and look again so she did and sure enough he did it again.

She has just run to the shop for me and will be back in a sec so we will see if he does it again.

What is he playing at???

iliketosleep

i am having huge problems with my neighbour at the moment as well - you truly have my sympathies

we have a dfferent situation - this is a female, alcoholic and apparently also bi-polar

she has a young ds who apparently has been on the 'at risk' register for a number of years

she screams, shouts, slams doors, thumps the adjoining walls, drinks drinks drinks all hours of the day and night - she appears to pass out then comes to in a RAGE and the noise begins

have called the police on her twice, both tmes as I was extremely concerned for her ds's safety

t is extremely stressful living next door to her - we only moved in a few months ago and had no idea of the problems. my dh is in the forces and is deployed overseas atm, has been for the entire time we've lived here, and he is worried sick about this too

the police have been terrific,and have let it be known that she is 'known' to them, and the socal services are apparently heavily nvolved - though it's beyond me why here ds is still with her after years of this

my advice would be to call the police every time you are frightened - you shouldn't have to live like that, tiptoing around your own house in case you set him off (which is what we do too)

if he has mental health issues, then he needs support and medication to get things under control

I can actually hear her thumping right now...here we go again...another disturbed evening.

I get where you're coming from.

Oh god :( its terrible isn't it, and in your case you have the worry of your DH being away too!

Hopefully yours and my problem will be sorted very soon!

OP, I've no advice on your neighbour, but throughout your posts I keep thinking how clearly you can hear him through the wall. You can make out exactly what he's saying. Is there any possibility that you could put in some sound insulation on your party walls?

OP, he is not playing at anything

He is obviously ill
Unless you want to do a psychiatric assessment, you won't understand why he behaves so strangely

But how entertaining for you! And it gives you something to talk about to other "well" people too!

This country will never provide adequate support for the mentally ill whilst your kind of "finger pointing" reaction goes on

I'm also betting you read the Daily Mail too

I had similar bother with a neighbour, shouting and yelling, making strange noises, loud music, shouting our names, etc. I had been to the police a number of times (20!!) but they never got in. I then got in touch with the council, (can't remember what department but basically the ones that deal with nuisance neighbours - the local councillor gave us their details) who gave me official diaries to keep. On the strength of this and the police reports, they sent a letter to his landlord who evicted him, and he was out in 6 weeks! Obv things might not be as simple for you but I would definitely advise getting in touch with your local councillor and your MP (who promised that if the council didn't help she'd get on to them.)
Hope this makes sense!