To find people who bang on about how religious and spiritual they are more annoying when they turn out to be just as flawed as the rest of us....

[poshsinglemum]

than people who don't bang on about their religion or spiritual path?

I am not here to slag off your religion/spiritual path. I just find people who go on about how religious they are the times worse than other folk when they turn out to be bastards

An example; An ex colleague of mine (a woman) went on and on about how she went to church every Sunday, never smoked in her life etc, etc and turned out to be a two faced bitch who slagged me off behind my back.

Likewise a lot of my exes who wooed me with claims that they were bhuddist, spiritual, new man types have been all too quick to treat me like crap.

It's called hypocracy and I hate it. iam quietly spiritual but can also admit that I'm human and flawed. I can be a bitch. I prefer it when people are honest.

depends. Some people are deeply religious and also paragons of virtue and very lovely people. I think the truly religious would acknowledge that we all do wrong from time-to-time.

Agree with MoutofVenus - some religious people I know are probably the kindest most generous people I know, but others are completely two faced.

To be honest, i think religion seems to have little difference in it - I think it's all in the genes and upbringing.

Must say - most upset I ever got by a man was when a religious guy I met two timed me!!! I was gutted!

Well, pride is a sin, isn't it.
So people who go on about their 'virtue' are guilty of that.
As MountofVenus says, the truly religious try to follow a good path, whichever one that is, but know humans will stray from it from time to time.

am guessing they didn't actually claim to be not human though? or were they convinced they really were Jesus/God/Buddha??

I don't have a problem with those who genuinely ARE lovely and practice what they preach.

It's to do with the person rather than spirituality/religion.

Anyone who bangs on about anything all the time is BU, most 'normal' religious/spiritual people keep it to themselves and aren't defined by it to others.

A small minority of people think that if they turn up at church on a Sunday it gives them a license to behave like shits for the rest of the week because, y'know, they pray to God. Catholics can even 'confess' to being a bit of a shit and say sorry and be absolved without much real contrition taking place. But I agree that overall religious people are trying hard to do the right thing but unfortunately are human and fail just as much as the rest of us, who are mainly trying to do the right thing too but for non-religious reasons

go for men that aren't bhuddist, spiritual, new man types

I agree with you - going on about how good one is etc etc only makes it more obviously hypocritical when the person turns out to be not-quite-so-bloody-marvellous-after-all. My mum suffered at the hands of some supposedly lovely churchgoers - and refused to ever go again because of the two-faced bitchiness of some of them.

yes, it's the holier-than-thou attitude that really sticks in the craw - I have far more respect for people who show how lovely they are by their behaviour than those who profess to be because they go to church/religious ceremonies.

People are hypocrites. Front page currently held.

Great post 1944 and very timely for me as I have just had a horrible experience with a guy I work alongside. He is a computer sub-contractor and wastes no time in telling you he is a Christian and directing you to his religious blog. Anyhow, I sensed something was brewing and sure enough he threw a big spanner in the works yesterday on my project. I spent today getting it back on track. Of course, he never said a word to me. He's really screwed up, it's obvious, the type who really doesn't want anyone else to succeed. It was all incredibly underhand and I felt like a missile had hit me.

But I think people like that are very good at justifying their behaviour to themselves. I had a religious married friend who told me God had brought her together with the man she was having an affair with!

I am a lapsed Christian, now an agnostic. I sat in Church one day and heard the minister say that the only way you can get to heaven is through Jesus Christ. And something changed for me - I just didn't believe that, that all the good, kind people of other faiths are going to hell.

YANBU I'm quite religous but that does not make me a better a person than anybody else or mean that I haven't done as many bad things as anybody else

One of the reasons I stopped attending church as a teenager was because of the downright nastiness of the 'faithful'. All far too interested in currying favour with the vicar, promoting their family into key roles, excluding outsiders from their clique, protesting about change. I wouldn't go as far as saying that every person of religion is a hypocrite but have certainly found it pays to judge people by their actions rather than their words.

I think there was a large study done (probably a few times!) and the conclusion was that there is no positive relationship between religiosity and morality. Possibly even a slightly negative one?

Nice people are just nice and irrespective of what they believe without evidence.

I had a friend who was always going on about how spiritual she was, who stopped speaking to a mutual friend of ours because she lost her faith after her mother died! Apparently she couldn't be friends with someone who didn't believe in God!!?? Needless to say, she's an ex-friend!

The essence of Christianity is that we are all sinners and we've all fallen short. I am no more NOR less of a sinner than a murderer or adulterer. I find it so disappointing that so many people encounter Christians who think they're all sorted - they're not - they are just as flawed and sinful as everyone else. That's why we need Jesus - no point in the crucifixion if we were able to sort ourselves out

I left the church broadly for this reason.

I was totally disillusioned with people's behaviour. Something happened to me , worst time of my life, told people in church and not one of them phoned or came round to see me. I missed 2 Sundays and no-one came.

I was also hacked off with the superiority and smugness of those in my church. They genuinely thought they were better than the masses because they were 'saved' (big satisfied sigh). The classic line (even from the minister!!) was 'I shouldn't judge... but.....'

I accept that Christians are simply human and make mistakes. I just was hoping for a little bit more.

I do believe in God and have my own ideas about faith but I don't go to church now.
I really belive there are some genuine christians out there who mean well and who really love what they belive in but there are others who demoralise and cut you down like a knife.
I smoked quite a lot in my twenties ( I still smoke a bit now but much less) and at the time I wanted to be accepted by my church but I never could be because I smoked.

I found `friends' just up and left me for no reason and people just filled my head with so much confusion I actually left the church in quite a state with bad depression and a terrible self esteem.

So now I just believe here by myself, if others want to thats their business but I don't want to be involved with church for now. I do belive my personal faith has seen me through quite a lot of circumstances though and I dont want to deny that.

I used to live in a parish where the vicar went off with a girl a year or two older than his daughters, while his wife was being treated for cancer. I think he represents a new low.

at the Bunty's bonking vicar. Did he ever give any kind of explanation or apology? There have been tons of stuff like that in the US but you don't expect it in the CofE!

i find people who bang on about anything, including how ridiculous religion is - to be annoying.

i thnk 'banging on' is the operative term here

Well it depends really.

If they're saying they are a better person due to their faith, then yes it's worse if they are in fact behaving horribly.

If however they're not saying they're a better person, just that they have religious beliefs, then I don't think it's worse - they're not pretending they are better than others.

Also, I particularly loathe those cut-and-paste Facebook statuses. Maybe you have been saved from those. I get them regularly from my American MIL. Today's was, "Let's see how many true Christians there are on FB. Copy this status if Jesus is your saviour."

Yuk, yuk, yuk.

Same as 'family' men who cheat on their wives and never spend any time with their children, in my book!