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To find people who bang on about how religious and spiritual they are more annoying when they turn out to be just as flawed as the rest of us....

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poshsinglemum · 23/09/2010 21:22

than people who don't bang on about their religion or spiritual path?

I am not here to slag off your religion/spiritual path. I just find people who go on about how religious they are the times worse than other folk when they turn out to be bastards

An example; An ex colleague of mine (a woman) went on and on about how she went to church every Sunday, never smoked in her life etc, etc and turned out to be a two faced bitch who slagged me off behind my back.

Likewise a lot of my exes who wooed me with claims that they were bhuddist, spiritual, new man types have been all too quick to treat me like crap.

It's called hypocracy and I hate it. iam quietly spiritual but can also admit that I'm human and flawed. I can be a bitch. I prefer it when people are honest.

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QueenOfFlamingEverything · 24/09/2010 11:50

I met a woman at a home ed group last year who was telling all about how spiritual and non-materialistic she was, and how she was hoping to get a place for her DD at a Steiner school as it would be so suited to her DD's very spiritual nature blah blah blah.

Then she asked where we live, and I explained that we live in a housing co-operative, and she looked Shock and said, "But aren't you frightened you will never get on the property ladder"

Such a spiritual, non-materialistic concern.... Grin

wukter · 24/09/2010 11:52

As a Catholic you can go to confession all you want, but unless your contrition and desire to do better is genuine your sins aren't wiped.

nomedoit · 24/09/2010 11:53

Queen they are the worst! Spare me from spiritual Range Rover owners... Maybe she meant spiritual in the sense of doing yoga, donating once a year to Freecycle and shopping at Whole Foods Grin

BuntyPenfold · 24/09/2010 11:57

nomedoit I don't know what happened in the long term, his wife took him back, or anyway that is how it looked, and shortly after they left the parish.
It must have been awful for her as everyone knew what he was doing and with whom. She had lost her hair due to chemo, so he went off with a glamorous blonde.
I think of all the hypocritical bs I have ever met, he takes the biscuit.

jonicomelately · 24/09/2010 12:00

At the Catholic church near to where we previously lived the people who were heaviliy involved with the church and knew the priest etc were the first ones to cut you dead in the street. It's a heirachy like any other. They felt superior because they were school governers, on the parish council and so forth. For a while a was a member of group who campaigned on fair trade issues. I then hit a patch of bad luck (DP because ill amongst other things) and not one of the fuckers offered any help. It was a shock when it dawned on me that they were only concerned with furthering their own virtuosity rather than genuinly helping people. Strange bunch of people Sad

Oblomov · 24/09/2010 12:00

I don't know who you all mix with , by i haven't met any 'holier than thou' typeI. not EVER. if I had I'm am sure that everyone, say fellow mums in the playground who are genrally nice and very quick witted, would have had a good time ribbing them to shreds.
Unfortuntaly I have not, as yet, had the pleasure.

BuntyPenfold · 24/09/2010 12:01

Yes Queen spiritual my eye.

Heracles · 24/09/2010 12:02

God's the worst. Murder's a sin unless he does it, eh?

It's one rule for omnipotent monotheistic creators and another for the rest of us. Hell in a handcart, I'm telling you.

wukter · 24/09/2010 12:02

In my DH's town there were the family who went to Mass all the time, front row seats in Church very ostentatious about their observance and religiosity.
That fucker is now in jail for raping his daughters.

BuntyPenfold · 24/09/2010 12:03

Grin Carry on Heracles please, I am so bored at work.

BuntyPenfold · 24/09/2010 12:05

I'm not laughing at your post wukter, it hadn't come up on my screen.

wukter · 24/09/2010 12:10

Of course Bunty, I wouln't think that

Rockbird · 24/09/2010 12:13

I'm with Custy. There are tosspots in a walks of life, religion has nothing to do with anything.

Fizzywinelover · 24/09/2010 12:26

I know what you mean, OP. I had the misfortune to work with someone who was a drunk, who beat his wife to the point of (regular) hospitalisation and who was a racist. But, because he went to church every week he thought he was a much better person than me, who he slagged off at many opportunities. I am/ was sympathetic about the drinking because I have had addictions myself, but not the rest.

nickelbabe · 24/09/2010 13:36

yes, banging on about being religious is horrible.
especially, as you say, when their behaviour doesn't match up to their vows.

I'm a devoted christian and spend a lot of time on church stuff, but i'm selfish, mean, judgy, lazy, i don't love my neighbour as myself, i'm greedy, mardy, etc.

but i try and that's the main thing (and i don't tell everyone how perfect i am because i've "found God")

Diamondback · 24/09/2010 13:50

It's like women who bang on about how they're so houseproud, they just never stop cleaning, when what they really mean is they vacuum a lot and then pour tons of bleach down the sink (and everything else is filthy...) Grin

PosieParker · 24/09/2010 13:59

Oh and people who bang on about being poor/broke and going out for expensive coffees every other day!

EmEyeHi · 24/09/2010 14:10

I'm glad you posted this posh. Able to get this off my chest.

I know a vicar who condoned extremely dishonest behaviours by a member of staff at a school where she was governor. The saddest thing of all was the sight a another practising christian governor who was also aware of the behaviours sobbing whilst saying through her tears that 'this is supposed to be a church school' Sad.

The vicar resigned her long standing post as governor and spent the following six months citing 'other commitments' as a reason for resignation at every public opportunity in an attempt to justify her reasons for going!

I cannot bring myself even to give her the time of day now. Hypocrisy.

nomedoit · 24/09/2010 14:39

EmEye Hmm. Surely a staff conduct issue would be a matter for the head teacher to take action on? There might have been more to it than met the eye. Tbh, it sounds as though you simply don't agree with the way it was handled. Just because a person is a vicar, doesn't mean they are obliged to wave around a sword of righteousness.

KERALA1 · 24/09/2010 14:48

Our local vicar when I was a child turned out to be a wife beater. I didnt rate him even before knowing this because he wouldnt let his privately educated children play with state educated "village children" Hmm. The solicitors firm in the town I used to work in that was Christian were the most aggressive unpleasant firm to deal with everyone dreaded having them on the other side. That said of course many religious people are lovely but agree it doesnt necessarily follow.

pompncircumstance · 24/09/2010 15:32

Not all christians are baddies! Hope this doesnt turn into a christian bashing thread. Yes there are an awful lot of hypocrites and people who do bad things in the church but you cant put all christians in one basket.

This term being `religious' is so broad, it encomapasses all religions and I am not sure Tibetian monks across the globe would be happy with being compared a Pentecotal christian somewhere in a smalL town in the UK in the name of RELIGION and vice versa.

EmEyeHi · 24/09/2010 18:22

nomedoit - sadly tis all true. Teacher in question was head. Sad

jonicomelately · 24/09/2010 18:30

I think most of us would realise not all religious people are 'baddies.'

sarah293 · 25/09/2010 08:01

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GreenLillium · 25/09/2010 08:22

I was in a very popular, well known church for many years, and it kept leaving me depressed. Also, no guys would ever ask the girls out or compliment them because at that time the church was going through a 'Waiting not Dating' phase which said that dating was wrong. The generation under us were normal, they dated, but there were a lot of 25 - 30 year old women left thinking 'WTF' (or the Christian equivalent) and being told to (just do God's work and wait and it will happen!). Meanwhile the younger ones were getting married and having babies. (oh, and the boys would rather go out places together and not with girls, or would go to other churches to find girls, and often wanted women modelled on the very girly snr pastor's wife).

I left and came to the UK and found myself a real man quite quickly. However, he is a pagan. But he has been more loving and Christian towards me than just about all Christian men I have ever known.

However, I'm still cautious about what I tell my Christian friends, because you never know what hurtful things will be said just because of what I call 'Arseclown Christianity'.

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