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WHSmith - Newspapers with 'Page 3' images of women

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gingerPuddingBFLT · 20/09/2010 11:36

Should MN approach WHSmith, and see if it is prepared to sign up to the 'Let Girls be Girls' campaign, by agreeing to stop selling newspapers with 'Page 3' images of women?

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HecateQueenOfWitches · 20/09/2010 11:40

MNHQ are certainly free to ask. Whether WHsmith will come in or not will depend if they think it'll make more money than the page 3 papers bring them.

curlymama · 20/09/2010 11:42

I thought the 'Let Girls be Girls' campaign was more about not sexualising young girls too early, I didn't think it would have any relevance to page three. I'm happy to stand corrected though.

HecateQueenOfWitches · 20/09/2010 11:48

I suppose it could be argued that it forms part of the pornification of our society which impacts on young girls and how they see themselves, esp as they grow up.

or summat. Grin

Anyway, all makes for a good article. Big news atm I hear.

From the indy to the sun. They're all on about it.

Doubt it will change anything, sadly. I hope I'm wrong. I don't think I am. But I hope I am.

sethstarkaddersmum · 20/09/2010 11:51

I wish it would, but there is no way on earth they would agree.

They would also have to stop selling lad's mags and that's not going to happen any time soon - it's hard enough trying to get them to agree to put them on a high shelf, which is what campaigners are mostly focusing on atm.

mayorquimby · 20/09/2010 11:51

How are adult women posing in a newspaper stopping girls being girls?

Tee2072 · 20/09/2010 11:51

But those are women, not girls. And they make the newsagents a lot of money.

Can ask, but I doubt they'll agree. Nor should they. It is, after all, still a free country. At least until the Tories get done with it...

::flees:: Grin

SlightlyJaded · 20/09/2010 11:56

WHSmith is a newsagent. The Sun is (for better or worse) the best selling newspaper in the UK. It's never going to happen...

meemu28 · 20/09/2010 11:59

If you don't want your children seeing page 3 girls then don't buy the paper.

jeez it's not rocket science.

HecateQueenOfWitches · 20/09/2010 12:02

the sun is the best selling newspaper in the UK?

That may very well be the most depressing thing I have ever heard.

gingerPuddingBFLT · 20/09/2010 12:02

And likewise, if you don't like your kids seeing the waitresses in Hooters, don't take them there.

I find it really strange / random that MN is taking such a high profile stance against M&S in Bristol, who have decided to sublet their store to Hooters.

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sethstarkaddersmum · 20/09/2010 12:02

I think there are lower-hanging fruit to pick first.

LeninGrad · 20/09/2010 12:03

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sethstarkaddersmum · 20/09/2010 12:04

but M&S have already signed Let Girls Be Girls Gingerpudding. That's the point.

gingerPuddingBFLT · 20/09/2010 12:05

LeninGrad - how will you approach internet access with your boys?

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sethstarkaddersmum · 20/09/2010 12:12

I don't see anything wrong with people starting new threads on a topic when there is already a thread, but with respect, Gingerpudding, I think if you would had read the original Hooters thread this would make a lot more sense to you.

The 'if you don't like it don't go there' argument is inadequate because, as is discussed on the other thread, Hooters tends to lead to an increase in harassment and crime in the area which is why the Bristol police opposed the application. Plus the site is in an area where lots of families go and live, so you would have to avoid a whole area/move house in some cases if you didn't want your kids to see Hooters waitresses Confused

don't have time to explain more but please see the other thread for further clarification.

gingerPuddingBFLT · 20/09/2010 12:21

sethstarkaddersmum - I've read the other thread now. So it's not that I'm misinformed. It's just that I disagree with a lot of the arguments.

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Tee2072 · 20/09/2010 12:23

I disagree with them as well, ginger. I think Hooters gets a lot of free publicity this way. And that M&S can do what they like with their own property.

Yes, you can buy 'does my ass look big in this' baby gros. But no one is making you buy them. And it's not like Hooteres employs children.

Let's pick some real battles, people.

gingerPuddingBFLT · 20/09/2010 12:27

Tee2072 - I completely agree with you .

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sethstarkaddersmum · 20/09/2010 12:35

so which battles do you recommend? which are you fighting?

sethstarkaddersmum · 20/09/2010 12:37

Tee - right now Hooters strategy is to try to get their licensing applications in below the radar by using a name which people won't recognise, hence publicity is a pretty double-edged sword for them right now.

gingerPuddingBFLT · 20/09/2010 12:41

I would rather not get into battles with other MNers :-)

I'm afraid my own battles are less interesting, and more to do with personal health issues if I'm honest. It's not for me to say what battles others should or shouldn't fight

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sethstarkaddersmum · 20/09/2010 12:42

Good luck with them GingerPudding Smile

GypsyMoth · 20/09/2010 12:43

how can you link women in page 3 to the let girls be girls campaign.....??

Tee2072 · 20/09/2010 12:44

Me personally?

I'm fighting against using BMI to label our children as fat.

I'm fighting against prostitots (so I am behind Let Girls Be Girls. I am not behind Don't let Women be Women).

I believe in freedom of expression for all consenting adults. So that includes people's rights, as adults, to go to/work at/wear clothing from places like Hooters.

It's our jobs, as parents, to protect our children. It's not our jobs, as parents, to stop the whole world from being sexual.

GypsyMoth · 20/09/2010 12:44

oh,and why are you just targetting wh smith??