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to buy my children next to nothing at christmas because theydon'tgive a crap how much things cost

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shinyshoes · 05/09/2010 08:50

My 2 boys have had it all. They have every games consoe going every new game that's come out. DS1 has had expensive phones the ist goes on. I suppose it's the same old saying 'I never had it when I was younger so I want them to.
DP has always been dead against them 'having it all'and always warned me I was making a rod for my own back.

They treat their games consoles like crap. Their expensive, sometimes £50.00 a go games, like junk, often finding them scratched and unplayable, have no concept of money, 'it's ony £100.00 mum ' Hmm.
DS2 has gone through christ knows how many phones. He often inherits mine when I get another one and he's in line to inherit my iphone when my contract is up.

Christ I was happy to get smellys as a child.

DS2 has just bent and threaten to break the new COD game we have just bought him.

Admittedy some of the stuff is out of their money they've saved from birthdays and christmases DS2 spending his on a laptop recently.

That has now broken and he is saving 'the money everyone gives him to buy another one' He isnt that bothered buy it as he spends his time on mine

I dont know what to do

AIBU to just buy them a couple of board games each for christmas instead of the hundreds of pounds we do spend on them only for them to wreck , destroy and not give a toss about anything of value.

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Lauriefairycake · 05/09/2010 10:06

I suggest a book of 'vouchers' as their main present at Christmas - treasure hunts, board games with mum and dad, expensive day out like a theme park with mum and dad, concert tickets.

Try giving them 'experiences' rather than stuff.

BudaisintheZONE · 05/09/2010 10:11

You don't HAVE to give them everything. It doesn't make you a better mother. It makes them spoilt brats. As you are learning.

But. I wouldn't use Xmas as a stick to beat them with. It's not fair. This is mostly your doing and you are the adult. I would sit them both down and explain that they value nothing and that things are changing from NOW.

If they break their laptops they don't get to use yours. And at their age do they really need laptops anyway? Or mobile phones? And COD????

I have one DS who is 9. We are financially in a position to give him most of what he wants. But he ain't getting it! He is not getting a mobile phone till he is at least 11 or 12. A laptop when he starts to need it for school homework etc. At the moment we have a family PC and he uses that.

I would get them some board games at Xmas. Make it a family present and set aside time to sit down as a family and play.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 05/09/2010 10:11

COD for a 10 and 13 tear old! Hmm

MumNWLondon · 05/09/2010 10:13

YANBU, its just sad that at that age they have no sense of money.

Don't wait for Xmas start now.

My DC are younger but I will never ever spend more than £50 on a birthday etc, often would be more like £25.

YunoYurbubson · 05/09/2010 10:13

I think that giving them a couple of board games each (or "next to nothing" as you put it) gives entirely the wrong message.

That would be you having a tantrum and making a big sweeping point without actually examining your own attitude to material things and money. Your boys have got their attitude directly from you and the way you have treated them and allowed them to behave. Now it is your job to fix that, and it is GREAT that you realise this needs doing. It will take some sensible discussions, ground rules and a new family attitude. It will be hard, the boys won't like it, you will need to be firm. You and your dh need to work together. Perhaps you you could let your husband call the shots when it comes to spoiling the boys for a while, until you get the hang of the new approach.

And "a couple of board games" is not next to nothing! It is a nice Christmas present.

hairytriangle · 05/09/2010 10:14

I just don't understand spending hundreds of pounds on young kids at Xmas

mizu · 05/09/2010 10:17

COD, ok I don't have boys. What is this? Not a fish I guess.

borderslass · 05/09/2010 10:22

YANBU I have a SIL who's DD 13 is extremely spoilt if mine or anyone else's child she knows has something she has to have it she also spends several hundred pounds every christmas and buys stuff for her most weeks.
DD2 who's 15 next month is getting a stocking and that's it because she's getting her bedroom redone and we've told her that's her birthday and Christmas she's absolutely made up over it. DS 16 who has sn is getting £50 to spend on games for his consoles/PC he's saving up for a ps3 himself.

Bumperlicious · 05/09/2010 10:27

I agree about them having to 'earn' their pocket money, or treats. Do they do housework or any chores?

I also agree that if you just make this about Christmas then it sends the wrong message.

GypsyMoth · 05/09/2010 10:30

omg!!! you buy them stuff thats not age appropriate,and wonder why its destroyed/not looked after?

they need stuff to keep them interested,not games that are beyond them

you mention iphone......so internet etc wont be regulated on it??

ApocalypseFlangePop · 05/09/2010 10:33

Yabu for ruining them....

Yanbu for regretting it....

They sound charming Hmm

FattyArbuckel · 05/09/2010 10:35

Don't wait until christmas, take it ALL away NOW.

Let them do without it all for a month, then they can earn it back at one item a week in return for contributing to the household chores.

mrsruffallo · 05/09/2010 10:37

YABU
You made them the way they are and now you are punishing then for it.
Their attitudes have been formed by you I am afraid.
I would buy them different kinds of presents for Christmas,rather than games and consoles, I would try to encourage them towards something more creative such as airfix, board games (which are not a punishment!), books and encyclopedias

deemented · 05/09/2010 10:38

Wow - interesting reading.

TheLifeOfRiley · 05/09/2010 10:39

This is definitely something you need to tackle - I have never written this before on MN but your DP is right!

I agree at the end of your contract either keep your phone instead of upgrading or sell it.

If my son had his own laptop and he broke it and wasn't even bothered he wouldn't be using mine! They sound like they have no idea of the value of money and aren't at all grateful for the huge amount of 'things' they have.

Don't wait til christmas - start now as you mean to go on.

Oldjolyon · 05/09/2010 10:40

I agree with the other posters who say that this issue isn't really about Christmas, but it is about what happens the rest of the year round.

It sounds like your boys have got into the habit of having whatever they want, and if it gets broken it will simply be replaced - possibly by something even better. But of course, this is not real life.

Personally, I would stop all treats outside of Christmas / Birthday. It really isn't that hard. If you see an absolute bargain that your child would love, then buy it and put it away until Christmas / Birthday.

But the most important thing, I think is that your children need to learn to respect the toys they have got. Do you make them save up to replace anything broken? This can often be a very valuable lesson. In our house, if DD breaks anything deliberately or because she did something she was told not to do, then she has to save up and pay for that item. She can either sell some toys on ebay to pay for it, use her pocket money to pay for it, or she can not go to her hobbies and pay for it - we let her make the choice, but she has to pay for it. As a result, she has a lot of toys, but does have respect for them - all the board games have got their pieces in and so on...

I think you need to sit down with your DH and decide what the new rules you want to implement and how you are going to do that.

And finally, good luck - you're going to be in for a few hard weeks / months whilst your children learn the new rules, but you know that it will be worthwhile. And, fwiw, I think you're very brave for recognising the issue and doing something about it - so much easier to hide your head in the sand on such things. Good luck!

Triggles · 05/09/2010 10:41

I agree that you need to make sweeping changes NOW... so that by Christmas they may actually appreciate a board game. We've had some expensive presents for our older two occasionally (they're 25 and 24 now) but because it's not always, they certainly don't expect it. Our two littlest (4 and 1)don't get expensive presents either.

I think the point is that these changes cannot be just for Christmas - it needs to be a complete lifestyle, all-the-time change.

Oldjolyon · 05/09/2010 10:42

Forgot to say, if there is anything they really want outside of Christmas / Birthday - they can do chores / earn pocket money to save up. My DD wanted a lap top. To save up for it, she did extra chores, sold some old toys on ebay. Its only a netbook, but she saved up all of the money herself. It can be done!

seeker · 05/09/2010 10:46

Too much going on here for a one-stop solution.

Forget about Christmas for a while - sit down with your dp and sort out a plan. Him sitting there saying I told you so isn't at all helpful.

And frankly, if you give a 10 year old COD then you asking for trouble.

BranchingOut · 05/09/2010 10:46

I agree with lots of the advice above.

You need to remind them of the value of money - not just in terms of games and consoles, but in terms of everyday items.

Maybe from now on you should take a permanent marker and write the price of everything on the packaging from your supermarket shop, or make them add up the totals with a calculator as they go around the supermarket with you. Show them the gas bill when it comes in. Tell them how much you have just spent on petrol when you get back into the car. Tell them how long it would take them to earn £50 by doing chores or when they get a part-time job.

Of course, you are expecting them to get part time jobs when they are a bit older, aren't you? Hmm

Maybe now is the time to sit down and have a serious chat with the 13 year old about the future - that university costs are on the horizon and he will be expected to make a contribution to it.

mamatomany · 05/09/2010 10:49

COD is that call of duty, a war game ?

I'd be stopping that immediately, isn't it an 18 rated game ?

GypsyMoth · 05/09/2010 10:54

its a 16....but vile!

MrsDoofenshmirtz · 05/09/2010 10:55

YANBU but you need to stop buying them things today.

Do they have pocket money as well?

You need to find a way to teach them the value of money.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 05/09/2010 10:55

It is an 18.

It is violent and really graphic, i hate seeing young children playing games like this.

Jaybird37 · 05/09/2010 10:58

I agree with lots of the advice, but also that it is easier said than done.

Christmas is not the moment to punish them, whilst obviously not going over the top. A change in behaviour needs to be a daily thing. If they can handle looking after their stuff until Christmas then you may feel that they have enough respect for a bigger present.

I think the box of broken things is a good idea. At the end of the year you can total up the value of what is in there.