Oh dear lord, have I got myself into an argument here.... "friend" now de-friended, so that's good, but what madness. Very heated discussion below, if anyone wants a laugh.
All names taken out for the well-being of the muppets everyone involved. Apologies if you were involved in this.
Person 1: The government announced they're going to give £60,000,000 to Pakistan; We have troops maimed & dying through lack of proper equipment, servicemen living on the streets with pathetic MOD pensions, people being denied life saving drugs & a HUGE national debt; Yet we donate... millions that we dont have to other countries before helping our own, 99% of people on FB wont have the guts to copy & repost this.Have you?
Me: 99% of people will have realised that there aren't millions (yes, millions) of children at risk of dying from cholera, typhoid and other diseases in this country. That money will help to stop a whole generation from dying, but would not clear our national debt. Please rethink this.
Person 1: Everyone has different views and opinions tho !!
Person 2: I AGREE PERSON 1! lets sort this shit hole out first. we have enough of our own problems. i reckon they only do this to gain brownie points with UN
Person 3: Person 2 I think you are right
Person 1: Its not just this time they've helped other countries tho they send millions everytime something happens !!
Me: Of course they do. We are a rich country and have an obligation to help countries that aren't able to care for people when a disaster happens. Just because we were born here, are we any better than them? Do we deserve to live and they deserve to die?
Person 3: nobodys saying they deserve to die. why should pensions be cut and our pensioners go without, why should child benefit be cut and children go without, why should nurses be sacked to cut costs and local communities suffer, theres loads we could do with that money to help us through a financial crisis. hundreds of elderly people will die of hypothermia this winter cos they can't afford to have heating on........just a thought
Me: It isn't the same money. We have a fund set aside for aid, which is reserved for this kind of crisis. No matter how much you want pensions improved and better provision for the elderly, this money simply won't be used for that.
I would much rather, for example, we stopped paying to bail out banks and popes visiting etc. before we stooped aid that could save the lives of many, many vulnerable children.
Person 1: someone has allocated that amount tho to go in that fund why so much ...why not put less into the aid fund and more into things for this country and has for the popes visit don't even get me started ...if they helped their own has much has others then maybe people wouldn't moan has much for them doing so !!
Person 2: (me), are you by any chance a politician......seems you have an answer for everything except how to get our arses out of a massive shit hole. dont mean to be funny luv but WE need aid. wheres all the other countries when WE need help or is it this dip shit government that cant see them all pissin up ar backs!
Me: er no, I'm a teacher. We're the sixth richest country in the world. We don't need aid. We need to organise ourselves a bit better.
Me: And while we're on the wild assumptions, do you read the Daily Mail or Express by any chance?
Person 4: I agree with Person 3 & Person 1 there are starving kids over here in this country too. My hubby has seen the third world kids first hand & the money sent to them is spent by the big wigs over there. Charity begins at hhhome
Me: Oh, has he? All of them? Goodness, he must have been busy. And where are these starving children here then? We'd better go and feed them.
Person 1: Yes there are starvin kids theres are families living in poverty families homeless etc etc etc
She didn't say he'd seen them ALL don't start shooting people down when they have there opinion has its just that their opinion you have yours we... have ours !!!
Person 4: Get your head out of your arse (me) & look around. You being a teacher should know about these kinda things or does it not happen in your school. How lucky are the children there. Children are starved & beaten in this country its on the news all the time.
Me: Nice.
We have a welfare state. The only children that are starved or beaten in this country are because they have bad parents or guardians, not because there isn't enough money. I was a neglected child, I had a drug addict dad and a schizophrenic mum, and didn't have enough food or a safe home. Money wouldn't have changed that, foster care did.
I'm going to have to bow out of this now because I don't really want to get into more arguments with people who only care about themselves and people just like themselves. Personally I think that humans are humans and deserve to be fed and kept safe whatever country they come from. I think it's sad that there are people around who think that they deserve more than others because of geography.
The "1%" who do post this ridiculous status do so, in my opinion either because they are ignorant of the sheer scale of the disaster in Pakistan, because they are simply idiots, or are callous or racist. I hope you lot come under the first category. Because I'm not sure though, I won't be responding further.
Person 4: Well I'm neither & as you don't know me I don't think you can comment so it's best you are not responding any further. As Person 1 said we are entitled to our opinion as you are. So I bid u farewell & u have a nice life
Person 1: i aren't saying don't help but if the country helped us out with has much has they helped others we also wouldn't be in the situation we are in ...if the goverment looked after their own in a crisis like they help others maybe many of us wouldn't mind ...oh and i aren't racist either and i aren't an idiot or ignorant either but you think what you want love !!!!!