To be a little annoyed by some of the sleep threads?

[Muffinhuffin]

...and I don't mean the ones from nickytwotimes and others like her.

I am prepared for a flaming

I mean the ones like

My baby is 6/7/8 weeks old and wakes up every two hours for a night feed

My baby is 6/7/8 weeks old and won't go to sleep unless I am cuddling him/her

I am doing controlled crying for my 6/7/8 etc week old baby but its not working

Is 6/7/8 weeks etc too early to put my baby in his / her own room

And so on.

I have three dc's and none of them slept through the night nor did I expect them too. My youngest is 5mo and wakes three or four times sometimes for a feed and a cuddle. I often read these threads and feel sad for the babies who parents are clearly expecting then to sleep through from a ridiculously early age and then come on mn wanting quick fix solutions when their baby won't sleep through.

I am not knocking people who want advice it's just that some of the threads seem a little, well, selfish, especially if the baby is only few weeks old.

Bring on the flaming arrows

Agree with OP. I am finding this who parenting lark a "piece of piss" - exactly (imo) because I didn't expect him to sleep 12 hours a night. I expected him to demand an awful lot of time and attention - and what he wants, he gets. :)

Fizzy I am so sorry your husband has such unrealistic expectations and is talking to DS like that. Makes me sad...

YABU, but I agree with you and I only have one!

I've noticed too IRL how people are quite unrealistic about new babies in general - not saying I'm the oracle, and they're a bit off topic, but examples of comments I've heard about babies under 2months recently:

'Oh no, baby doesn't like crowds'

'She hates having her feet covered, just like her Mum' (2 week old with blue feet in the garden - it was raining...Mum had shoes & socks on!)

'Baby slept through last night - fingers crossed we've cracked it' - He's a month old. You haven't.

'Oooh she doesn't like that game at all!' (Being thrown up in the air - same 2 week old You don't say?! )

I sound mean, and I am taking the pee in a light hearted way I promise, but throwing the baby in the air at 2 weeks? Madness.

Oh Fizzy, I remember the stage of getting used to the broken nights, and although not quite as cross as your DH perhaps, I certainly growled and cried and swore into my pillow.

My DH said to me (and the first time he said it, I found it patronising, he said it at the wrong time!) simply that the baby doesn't know. She's getting used to everything and all she knows is she needs us to comfort her' and it helped me to remain calm when dealing with her. Maybe a gentle chat with your DH when you get a good moment might make a difference?

Nothing worse than being fed up with each other as well - which you will be from time to time, but it made me feel so much worse. Good luck, it'll even out in time xx

Thank you everyone for the support. Sorry again Muffin for hijacking, and thanks for being so gracious about it. :)

Last night was better. I could hear DH crooning and gurgling with the baby when he got up with him, so fingers crossed.

Alibaba I am ordering that book as soon as I have finished typing this. Thanks for that.

Half the problem is, i think.. DH was brought up with nannies.... the old fashioned type where parents NEVER saw their children. Children seen and not heard. None of our friends have kids under the age of 25. We are seeing an old friend tonight. I am going to ring her and ask her to kind of show wonderment and amazement at how our baby just wakes a couple of times, and to say 'isn't he good'. Just to shake the received 'wisdom' he has now.

Oh sorry, i mean to clarify and say that the 'brought up with nannies' in this case means that he was brought up in a type of household where he never really saw his parents or even his siblings often.He was VERY rigidly disciplined when growing up really. (I am not saying that nannies are a bad thing, IFSWIM, just the particular unique atmosphere he was brought up in was not ideal.) He does not know how to really show love right now to the baby, but well, last night was better.

Fizzy last night does sound better - cooing is good :)

His childhood sounds horrific, poor man. He will find his way eventually, just think how much easier it will be when you have number 2

YABU. That's the point of this site - people who don't know everything about parenting come to ask questions and learn. If they don't know something is normal, they post and then find out.

I had NO IDEA that DD would want feeding so often. I had never heard of cluster feeding and growth spurts. I read several books before having her and although I knew they were not necessarily gospel, I had no idea just how pie in the sky they were.

yabu- people need sleep to function. it's quite normal to want to compare sleep patterns with other parents. i don't want more sleep so i can go out partying, i want sleep so i can bring up dd.