To think that parents who don't strap their toddlers into car seats properly should be hung drawn and quartered.

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On my way home today, I saw a little boy about my dds age (2yrs old) with both arms and head out the rear window.

Obviously not strapped into his car seat properly despite him being in one.

I know I've judgey pants on, but this really pisses me off.

hung, drawn and quatertered is a little extreme so yabu

YANBU - I saw a kid doing the same AND the driver was puffing away! I judged and judged some more!

I was driving one day when ds1 suddenly looked at ds2 and screamed stop the car mummy now.

I screeched to a halt and realised I hadn't done up the straps on ds2's carseat - he was probably about 6 months.

No idea why - I guess I got distracted.

Felt sick for a long time afterwards.

So yanbu assuming it was deliberate.

yanbu,

i cant stand lax car safety.

i think my 'favourite' carseat idiocy was an infant carrier strapped in forward facing like a booster seat with a 2yr old in iyswim.

my arsehole sil, strapping her 18mnth old in wwith straps under his arms.

i mean seriously how hard is it people, you get a little book with twat proof instructions.

i think there needs to be far more policing done on carseat safety.

I worked in the middle east and saw many dead children who went through cars windows, sad but true.

YANBU

My stupid sil always had her dd in a car-seat but the straps 'hurt her' so where left loose she always ended up hanging out of the seat I borrowed her car once as mine was off road dd2 is 15 months older we where told we could use the seat as long as we didn't alter the straps yeah right I had to tighten them a lot to fit dd2.
I still see tots stood on the backseat with no seat or adult in with them, a child's life is to precious.

YANBU

Although, I didn't realise that twisted straps can cause lacerations in a crash. I am extra careful now.

I think you are a bit extreme. Most car seat mistakes are caused by extreme tireness. Carseats have got easier to install, however many non isofit carseats are complicated.

Also some children are like huodini for getting out of carseats. I remember one time when my son at the age of three undid his car seat belt three times while I was driving on the M25 at 70mph.

This is where those with perfect children can get mega judgy. I smacked him the third time and he kept his seat belt on for the rest of the journey. (The number of times I have smacked my eight year old, I could count on one hand.)

Isn't it sad sometimes how things change. One of my favourite memories as a toddler was standing on the front passenger seat of my parents' and grandparents' cars holding on to the dashboard to watch where we were going.

YANBU! I hate to see it....although I think the worst i've seen was <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=www.costsaving2u.com/images/InStep%2520Quick%2520N%2520EZ%2520Bike%2520Trailer.jpg&imgrefurl=www.costsaving2u.com/index.php%3Fmain_page%3Dproduct_info%26products_id%3D1128%26zenid%3Dff8697093a4534f739e4356d08de7cfd&usg=__0rL0n8xiRja_waRRZPviWxZjUp4=&h=500&w=500&sz=41&hl=en&start=0&sig2=t53rnae2SfUbBsOZSa8TMg&zoom=1&tbnid=VKkHq6c3GR_sKM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=134&ei=lo9xTPSWOobLOL2boeMB&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbike%2Btrailer%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D651%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=561&vpy=214&dur=991&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=81&ty=134&oei=lo9xTPSWOobLOL2boeMB&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">one of THESE(!!) Attached to the back of the car with kids in!

Ds2 is a nightmare at the moment, no matter how tight we do his straps he manages to get his arms out of the shoulder straps. He can now get them back in on his own, so some very stern words and he sorts it out but it is very annoying.

YANBU

When we left the hospital, the midwife strapped in our DD and did it totally wrong - straps under the arms... 3 day old baby!

I had no idea it was wrong until I saw a friend with her lo about 2 months later. We didn't have a car at the time so it was minimal times that this happened, but it makes me feel horrible to think of her being so unprotected - and all because a 'professional' strapped her in that first time!

I may have had twat proof instructions but with everything else, I didn't read them before the birth...

It is such a simple way to protect your kids and I wouldn't dream of driving without a belt myself!

YANBU! In a bad accident the child is likely to die so don't see why the parent's should get off lightly.

YANBU My neighbour does not have a car seat because she can't afford one. She does have a new BMW though.

YANBU - its illegal in UK to let children travel without carseats, and dangerous.

Worst I saw was a newborn in a (very old) forward facing reclining carseat. I did say something, parents unaware that for babies seat had to be installed facing backwards, so was ignorance.

I think police should be much quicker to fine/give penalty points for lax car seat safety. Hanging may be slightly extreme!

YANBU. I often see kids that aren't strapped in (but I'm a bit of a judgey-pants and tend to look when I'm waiting to cross at zebra crossings ).

It's not hard to read instructions and do it properly is it? I can be crap with lots of non-essential things (can I be bothered to read my ipod instructions properly?....no) but with car seats I do it to the letter.

But I notice loads of adults who don't wear belts and obviously fancy being thrown through the windscreen.

Had to stop the car 3 times (for about 20 mins each time) on an 8 mile journey as my nephew kept getting free from the shoulder straps in his car seat. Was a major PITA but I would never forgive myself if anything happened.

Oh YANBU by the way :)

I've twice this holiday driven without ds3 strapped in - because I was dropping dd off, and she had unstrapped him without me realising. I didn't check because I had strapped him in at the beginning of the journey and it never OCCURRED to me that she would 'try to be helpful' in this way.

Anyone who would put a child in a car in the first place given the dangers involved....

YABU. My dd2 (2) can get her arms out of her straps. No matter how tight I did them, I'd turn around mid journey to see her arms free. Or dd1 (7) would suddenly say that dd2 was 'free'.

Of course, I would immediately pull over & put her back properly, and have now found a way to prevent her from doing it.

So no, I don't think parents should be 'hung, drawn and quartered' at all & I think YABU, because YOU have no idea what the situation is.

As I said, dd2 was ALWAYS in properly, but at anytime within a journey, could get her arms out, without my being aware.

how come on share with me how do you keep her from doing it now???

DS2 is a sod for doing this....driving along and he is out of the shoulder straps grrrrrrrr I even considered superglue!!!

lazylula, dd's car seat had detectable pads on the straps. They have poppers on them. I took them both off, linked them together & then run it under & over the straps (dd is strapped in normally). Then pop them together again. They wrap around the straps making it impossible to part them.

Dd hasn't (for any amount of trying) managed to get of this yet. You can also get specialized clips that hold the straps in the same way, but they are extortionate here, but will be the next step, if & when dd gets out of my makeshift 'lock.

hmmm DS2's seat hasn;t but think thats because he is in the next stage seat tbh. I wish he fitted in the old one still but his now is a stage 2 and 3 i think...it converts into a booster seat. ok superglue it is then

Lady, as per my post to lazy. Here (Australia) the pads on the shoulder straps are removable, so it easy. On dd1's in the UK, they were fixed, so not as easy.

You can get a clip (think it is called the Houdini clip) that pulls them together so little terrors children can't get their arms out.

Either that, or fashion something to wrap around with the aid of strong Velcro or poppers.