to think that ADHD/ADD is a load of nonsense?

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Are we really producing ever more kids with these conditions or do parents simply need to take back control and realise that, at times, all kids can be obnoxious, loud, defiant, restless and fidgety and that strictly enforced rules for behaviour, lots of TLC, and the occasional smack on the bum may be the way forward?

There is also the probability that there are more experts about than in our day. my db was probably ADHD even now he does things what most 43 year olds wouldn't contemplate he was referred to as the class clown and failed miserably at school but give him something practical and he's brilliant.

The OP and his cronies think we are all talking bollocks .....so let's start talking bollocks......and stop feeding the troll.

Once upon a time, in a land far away there lived a handsome frog and an ugly princess.....

Tiredmum, funnily enough I think that in a large No of cases that is exactly what happens.

who crossed a bridge so that they could kill the troll

the frog kissed the princess and turned her into a toad

The toad was called Norwegian Blue

blue was its' fave color as it supported chelsea

The toad decided she had better things to do than be kissed by halitosis laden idiots with delusions of grandeur so set off on a journey to find the meaning of life

Dont be fecking stupid, are you a doctor.

and that caught you out as docs - ie. gp's dont diagnose these things ime.

so she went to a book store to get a dictonary

was it a for additives?

or b for bananas?

or c for crazy cows?

And now Norwegian blue goes round in circles, giving a good reason why correct diagnosis and appropriate medication of ADHD is important, since many undiagnosed adults (who grew up in the days before so many cases were diagnosed, astonishingly) do self medicate with caffeine, alcohol or something less than legal.

do you remember blue cow?

Lougle wrote'Rather takes the shine off the whole thread when pesky things like facts and statistics get in the way of good old judginess, doesn't it?'

I think you are talking rubbish.First you say your DD has undiagnosed ADHD giving examples of her behaviour.When I suggested the things you were citing were not uncommon among children of 4 years old, you start spouting statistics about the distribution of statements and special school places and how it is rare for a 4 yo to have oner .You then go on to reveal that your DD has other brain disorders.These disorders are presumably the reason for the ss place and statement rather than the undiagnosed ADHD.I am therefore struggling to see what your statistics are proving or adding to the debate.

things like adhd - sorry

D is for deficit and disorder

No twas T for Twunts and Trolls. Unfrotunately the frog/toad/green amphibian was very unhappy as she had a strange and unfortunate problem

or d for dickheads ..?

dull

the blue toad found a friend who fell out of the sky and liked smacking bottoms

mooOOO errrRRR!!!

Blue cow? - I remeber laughing cow. Nice spready cheese.