To think that women who treat their own pregnancy as some kind of 'illness' and 'debilitating' within the work environment are a bloody PITA

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Sorry- I know that I am going to get flamed for this, and will have people saying "well how do you know that they dont have an illness"....

Im beyond bored and frustrated with working with workshy oiks (who were workshy prior to conception btw) treating their own pregnancy as some kind of debilitating disease, one which renders them incapable of arriving for work on time, allows them to skulk off early at the end of a shift and even have the audacity to sit next to a ringing telephone without having the ability to answer the bloody thing in case they "cant direct it to the relevant person correctly"

I have had two children, I have worked FT through both pregnancies, I dont recall it being a reason to turn into a bone-idle miserable waste of space.

ARGH!

YANBU. I am 8 months pregnant, working and deterimined not to be like these people!

Although it sounds like they are pretty useless employees generally rather than it being a pregnancy thing??

Good for you.

Yes they are useless in general, the pregnancy has just given them a green light to be even more useless, but with an excuse.

it's not about pregnancy as such though, is it?
Some of us are stoics, and some shirkers. the shirkers will find an excuse to skive off, pregnant or not. A childless woman in my office has has 6 weeks off this year with various "colds" .

YABU, I was ill and felt rubbish through my whole pregnancy (not vomiting, just feeling extremely unwell), maybe you had an easy pregnancy, not everyone does.

in fact I was off for about 5 months while pregnant, because i literally was too ill to work, havent been off in 2 years since, so am not a "shirker".

YABVU the more I think about it.

Why not head over to the judgy thread, I'm sure you have opinions on many other things.

Thats whats so frustrating though Flora- the pregnancy now being used as some kind of 'decoy'.

I want to scream when she says "might not be in tomorrow.. ill see how i feel.."

YANBU at all. I didn't realise at the time but I actually did a full days work whilst being in the early stages of labour. I was determined all the way through the pregnancy to carry on with normal daily activities

Unfortunately, there are a few pregnant women who see beoing pregnant as a licence to do sweet FA!

I always think that it will catch up with them in the end because once the baby is born and the sleepless nights kick in they will realise just what bliss pregnancy was!

YABVU with my ds I literally could not get off the bed and had to have a sick bowl with me at all times as I was sick hundreds of times a day and had to go into hospital twice to be rehydrated, so for me pregnancy is very much an illness.

poor woman, she probably feels crap physically, and now she has to work with someone who is bitching about her behind her back as well .
I hate these people who have easy pregnancies themselves and think it gives them a license to pronounce on how other pregnant women feel. You had your pregnancy OP, you didn't have anyone else's, and frankly if you could work through yours without dropping productivity you should be thanking your lucky stars.

If it's just another excuse YANBU.

If they are ill YABU

I've been off approx 3 months of this pg and finished at 30 weeks. In between I was on light duties which mainly bound me to the office. Tbh I was glad when the phone rang as I was so bored!

i didnt have easy pregnancies, I bled quite a lot through both of them.

Although I do aacept that I may be unreasonable and am open to any comments - hence why putting this in AIBU

If they were workshy before, that's one thing, but YABVU to equate your own pregnancy experience to others, they are all different. And I will say it....you can't possibly know how they are feeling from day to day, it might be a struggle for them to get to work anyway. I am pregnant and work slightly less than full time hours and there have been occasions when I have struggled to keep up to standard. Not everyone has a wonderful pregnancy.

I'm sorry, but you sound quite horrible to work with. Calling someone a "bone-idle miserable waste of space" is just plain nasty. I hope you're nicer to your colleagues than you have been about them on here.

YABU.

I was off sick for 3 months while I was pregnant with DS - because I was sick. Horribly so.

Flora - congratulations on your 0 days sick leave, have a medal. What do you propose those of us who were too ill to get out of bed, never mind drive a car do?

"Some of us are stoics, and some shirkers."

Some of us are odd. Some of us need to get out a bit more. Some of us need to take a good long look at where they get their self-validation from.

YABU in thinking that pregnancy can't make you feel unwell.

Just because YOU managed fine FT when pregnant, doesn't mean everyone can. I also worked FT when pregnant but I was very very sick in the first few months. There were so many days, every week, when I had to leave my classroom, leaving children unsupervised (secondary level) to run to the toilets to be sick , sometimes more than once or twice a day. I did end up with a week off work as I was being so sick I was dizzy nd not safe to drive. Luckily for me this did pass after 4 or so months, and I wasn't at work (holidays) for the first two months.

However, YANBU in being frustrated with incompetent or unreliable colleagues. These people appear to have been incompetent prior to their pregnancies - therefore the pregnancy aspect of it is irrelevant really.

the bleeding must have been horrible and stressful but clearly it didn't prevent you working and clearly you have no idea of what it is like to have the kind of pregnancy that does. For instance when I was pregnant there were times when if I spoke too much I would throw up . This limited my ability to interact with students as I would normally have done. (and couldn't do bedtime stories either which sucked.)

think you are probably BU

that said I used to work with a lovely woman who spent her whole working pregnancy either sleeping under the board room table eating/discussing/planning cake and going to pregnancy yoga. Oh and going out for lunch for two hours

I had to admire her chutzpah

Hmm I think this is my very first YABVVVVVU!

SOme women have easy pregnancies and some don't. I was signed off work for 3 months due to hyperemesis. I am not a shirker - I tried several times to get in to work but copious vomiting on the tube stopped me actually getting in.

I can understand that if they are already in the habit of shirking that it can be irritating. But the title of this is totally intolerant of the idea that some women do get really really ill in pregnancy.

where did I suggest that pregnancy can't make you feel unwell??

im not a complete moron, I know women can be unwell when pregnant. My thread is about a lazy person, using pregnancy as an excuse for their continued laziness.

I don't think the OP is talking about people who are genuinely ill in pregnancy and take extended sick leave. She's talking about those who use their pregnancy as yet another excuse to skive. The type who have 'flu' several times a year.

FWIW I had two days off sick in pregnancy so I'm not a martyr. Like zippy, I also did a full day's work (albeit from home) in early labour, without realising. A lady at my old work was constantly off all the way through her pregnancy with 'aches and pains'. Who the fuck doesn't get aches and pains in pregnancy?

Seriously- if my colleague was at the point whereby she was about to throw up with every interaction then we would have been witness to it over the past few months.

im not a heartless cow with no compassion!!!

frustrated with the excuse to not do anything at all other than sit and play solitaire on the bloody computer.

Women who assume that their own pregnancies are a model for how it is for everyone else and come up with comments like "I did [such-and-such] through my pregnancies" are a bloody PITA, TBH.

Ingrid Kristiansen ran 200 km per week until she was 5 months pregnant.

[[news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/3851327.stm Caroline Mackinder had two children while working full-time right up until giving birth without farting around with midwife appointments, maternity clothes or even being wussy enough to stop having periods, and had labours of less than an hour each time.

Clearly you should have done that in your two pregnancies, too. After all, someone else did, so it must be exactly the same for you.

It doesn't mean that your individual colleagues aren't workshy oiks. They could well be. But generalising about women who find pregnancy debilitating and using anecdotal "I have had two children..." evidence to back that up is BU.

Lazy workshy bastards selfishly growing another person inside them just to piss you off.