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to be pissed off with vegan stepson who whilst pissed ate cheese and chicken?

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GetOrfMoiLand · 09/08/2010 11:14

I love my stepson - he's great.

He used to be vegetarian but is now vegan. It is a PITA buying stuff for him to eat, so much stuff has lactose and shite in. But, anyway, I cook for him as (a) I am anal about my kitchen and (b) well, he is part of the family. He usually has curries because that is the easiest thing to make. So it's no problem really.

At the weekend he went out and got a bit pickled, came home with a chicken from nandos. He also demolished a load of cheese.

So yesterday I jokingly laughed at him for falling off the wagon. I just said that i assume that I didn't need to go all out and buy vegan stuff any more (soya milk, free from bread etc) as he obviously wasn't that militant about the veganism.

He said no, he still wants to try and be vegan.

AIBU to think this is all a load of old nonsense, it's not as if he got pissed and just slightly fell off the vegan bandwagon and had a bit of cake with egg in it. He had chicken and cheese!

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GetOrfMoiLand · 09/08/2010 11:50

Yes he is quite strict about vegan alcohol - he won't touch my wine for instance (he did tell me what was in it which was so heinous, but wasn't actually listening properly).

I can imagine he woke up with the chicken and cheese evidence and had that hangover moment of clarity, and probably groaned at himself.

Bless him, really.

Makes me wonder if he has done it in the past though. I made his roast potatoes for Christmas dinner seperately out of veg oil, as ours were roasted in duck fat, and was slightly annoyed that DP had nicked the leftover (duckfat) ones, which he has always denied. Perhaps it was stepson on a midnight raid.

Will be keeping a close eye on my sausage stocks in future Grin

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NonnoMum · 09/08/2010 11:53

I'd be annoyed too.

And, not sure about relinquishing kitchen.

My DSS chooses to come and cook stinky bacon just when I'm doing the ironing.

HE is on a completely different timescale to the rest of the family, so when I am getting lunch ready for the little kids, he will start his breakfast.

And he is incredibly fussy too - he will ONLY eat meat. When he goes away we celebrate by having veg in our casseroles.

They're all a PITA, just by being adolescent males.

MmeLindt · 09/08/2010 11:55

LOL (sorry)

I am imagining the scene. GetorfSS awakes, bleary eyed he turns his head, sensing somehow he is not alone in bed. With a rising sense of horror he espies the empty Nandos wrapper on the pillow next to him. Nooooooooooooo. He could not have betrayed his beloved Vegan thus? Shocked at his behaviour, he turns to the bedside table and recoils in horror. No. It is not possible. Not just a Nando chicken. A Nando-Cheese roast. Shock

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GetOrfMoiLand · 09/08/2010 11:58

lolol Mmelindt.

Yes, I can just imagine it. The daft apeth Grin

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Lovesdogsandcats · 09/08/2010 12:02

Cannot understand anyone being proper vegan as you say he is (alcohol/duckfat) etc then making a mistake like, say, some non-vegan Haribos...or a pie with meat in from the fridge, but actual meat off the bone...weird.

AbsOfCroissant · 09/08/2010 12:07

TBH, I don't blame him. Nandos is lush.

I was veggie for years, but it was beef burgers that eventually turned me (simply because Nandos wasn't around)

FindingMyMojo · 09/08/2010 12:09

Funny thread.

£10 says when he has to fend for himself/prepare his own meals he'll last less than a week as a vegan and another £10 says he'll last less than a month as a vegetarian.

Lovesdogsandcats · 09/08/2010 12:14

Should say, I CAN understand the Haribo mistake, but NOT the chicken on the bone one!

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GetOrfMoiLand · 09/08/2010 12:17

He did used to live in his own (well, in a shared house).

I actually don't think he ate much, think he lived on rice and beans. He was always very pale and thin and used to eat us out of house and home when he visited.

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squirrel42 · 09/08/2010 13:20

The stuff they put in beer and wine that makes it unsuitable for vegans is called "isinglass" and is made from the dried swimbladders of fish. I kid ye not. Isinglass.

Apparently it helps to settle out the yeast and other stuff in the beer and wine so it's not all cloudy. God alone knows how they first discovered that! Shock

However I'm not vegan and quite happily swig down wine and beer even knowing what's in it!

terryble · 09/08/2010 13:46

People have greater or lesser self-control than others when following diet-plans, whatever the reason for the diet-plan, whether it be for reasons of morality or health.

I'd say that he's a (vegan) person who should perhaps drink less. Alcohol lowers inhibitions, you know. There's plenty of men and women who have done all kinds of embarrassing things under the influence. But no-one would expect them to repeat the feats while sober.

Lovesdogsandcats, were you serious about serving him chicken and cheese from now on?

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GetOrfMoiLand · 09/08/2010 13:49

Well I never knew that issinglass was made from fish bladders. I had heard of it (I think it is in jelly products also) but never knew what it was made of, just assumed it was a plant like arrowroot.

Terryble, he is pretty sensible re drinking, doesn't get bladdered too much (last time was new years eve) so it probably won't happen again.

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Gleeb · 09/08/2010 13:49

Maybe he felt like I did when I woke up yesterday to see the wrapper from a big bar of Galaxy purchased at Charing Cross station on 11.30pm on Saturday night Grin.

terryble · 09/08/2010 13:57

Ah, I see. Very occasional drinker, so he hasn't built up any tolerance? Oh, the poor thing. He must have felt so awful this morning!

How long was he a vegetarian before he went vegan? Some people find changes in diet easier to do gradually; of course some people apparently find sudden changes easier.

NonnoMum · 09/08/2010 18:41

Anyhoo: hahahahahhahahahahaha... A vegan shoving a Nandos down his gob - like one of those televanglists who have young men around to be their 'special friend'.
Maybe the chicken was his 'special fried".

Lovesdogsandcats · 09/08/2010 18:49

Yes I was serious. i am vegan and would never eat meat, anyone who does is not vegan. He was not tied down and force fed it - No such thing as a part time vegan!

ISNT · 09/08/2010 20:06

Have you never done anything really really stupid when you've been pissed lovesdogs?

I can see that if you haven't that might seem a sensible approach, but honestly some people do the most random stuff when they're drunk that they would never countenance doing sober.

I suspect this young man has learnt his lesson...

Snobear4000 · 09/08/2010 21:56

There ain't no nutrients in chicken and cheese.

expatinscotland · 09/08/2010 22:04

Uh. Most alcohol isn't vegan.

thisisyesterday · 09/08/2010 22:07

i am vegetarian.
whilst pregnant i had horrendous cravings for meat.
i once ate some

afterwards i felt awful. did my family insist from that moment on that i wasn't a proper vegetarian and make me eat meat? no, of course not

i wanted some. i ate some. then i decided that actually, i quite like being veggie (and now vegan for that matter!)

your stepson decided, drunkenly that he'd like some chicken and cheese.
that doesn't mean that he can't then decide that actually it really isn't what he wants and he will continue with a vegan diet does it???

you think he should be just offered meat and dairy products just because he drunkenly tried some once??? i am struggling to get the bizarre logic (if there is any) behind this to be honest with you

if you don't want to buy special things and cook for him then don't. but you will have to allow him to make his own meals.

i don't really get the whole "he's old enough to cook for himself" thing either tbh. if you're making dinner for everyone it would be pretty bloody spiteful to leave him out just because he is vegan and once ate a bit of chicken, wouldn't it?

terryble · 09/08/2010 22:35

Okay, lovesdogsandcats, congratulations on being the most sanctimonious vegan I've met since I stopped using veg*n forums.

Just to prove a point, you would have meat wasted on this lad, each and every meal? For a vegan, you sure do want to increase meat consumption. Absolutely lovely vegan principles you have there.

No-one said there was such a thing as a part time vegan. There is, however, such a thing as an imperfect human being. Especially when they get drunk.

You know, this kind of judgemental behaviour from already established (in their diets) vegetarians and vegans often puts interested people off even trying to change their diets.

Lovesdogsandcats · 10/08/2010 11:18

Bloody hell! No I would not waste meat. She is cooking with meat and cheese anyway, unless the rest of the family are vegan, in which case, give him vegan. It just pees me off when other people get the wrong idea of what vegetarians/vegans eat. I mean someone on here thinks she can still call herself vegetarian as she only 'has a bit of chicken at Christmas'..it ridiculous.

sallyseton · 10/08/2010 11:23

Make him cook his own food!

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GetOrfMoiLand · 10/08/2010 11:24

Poor old stepson apologised again for eating the cheese (not that i cared anyway) and said he feels ashamed of himself, and wishes he hadn't done it. Poor sod, he seems so penitent. He feels very guilty as well (he is vegan mainly because of animal welfare).

Feel a right cow for being pissed off yesterday. Bless him, he's a lovely boy.

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ISNT · 10/08/2010 11:37

I bet he feels guilty, the poor thing.

Valuable lesson learnt on the dangers of the demon drink!

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