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AIBU to be irritated by people who describe themselves as Vegetarian yet who happily eat fish!

173 replies

Housewife2010 · 07/08/2010 20:54

I know several friends & work colleagues who describe themselves as Vegetarian, but they eat fish. Why not just say that they don't eat meat? I didn't think that a fish was a plant!

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BuzzingNoise · 07/08/2010 20:55

yanbu. I feel your annoyance.

clouddragon · 07/08/2010 20:57

but fish aren't cute.

SloanyPony · 07/08/2010 20:58

Yes I suppose but if they start going into the technical term (which I can't even remember) then it gets complicated. Different story if you are doing a dinner party though, they should mention it then.

I find more annoying meat eaters who wont eat fish - and often at least one type of meat as well - so get a group of them round a table to cook for and Spaghetti Bolognaise is about all you can think if they'll all like. Grrr.

lolapoppins · 07/08/2010 20:59

I know someone who describes themselves as a vegetarian and eats chicken. Chicken doesn't count as meat as it's white meat. But turkey does count as meat apparently Hmm

(says the vegetarian who will happily scoff a kebab when drunk Blush)

Vallhala · 07/08/2010 20:59

YANBU, but as a vegetarian who doesn't eat fish or animal products such as gelatine in sweets, I may be a bit biased.

CheeseandGherkins · 07/08/2010 21:00

YANBU, I'm a proper vegetarian, I don't eat any meat, or animal products; same as Vallhala.

Snobear4000 · 07/08/2010 21:04

YANBU. I never describe myself as a vegetarian, but for reasons best left for other threads, don't eat "land meat".

So I order veggie meals often when out, always on a flight, etc. Then someone who sees me eating a veggie meal will later see me ordering salmon and will then argue with me, "You said you were a vegetarian, LIAR! FISH ARE MEAT TOO!"

Etc...

Yawn.

venusandmars · 07/08/2010 21:04

Many female fish lay eggs, then bugger off and leave them to be fertilised (or not) and then to survive (or not).

Sheep, cows, pigs become pregnant and give birth to live young, and suckle them.

That was my dd's explanation when she became vegetarian yet still ate fish.

maxpower · 07/08/2010 21:05

YANBU as far as I'm concerned, fish is a form of meat

Bicnod · 07/08/2010 21:06

Hmmmm. Not sure. I was a proper vegetarian (no meat, no fish, no animal products) from the age of 11 to 22. I then moved in with my (now) DH and conceded to eating fish on occasion as a compromise as he is a rampant carnivore. I still say I'm a vegetarian for ease of explanation but if I'm going to someone's for dinner I'll always tell them that I do eat fish to make it easier for them. Rambling. Sorry. Can't decide if YABU or NBU.

PavlovtheCat · 07/08/2010 21:06

YABU. Get a life.

Bicnod · 07/08/2010 21:07

Oh, and my explanation to myself for eating fish is that they have a chance to get away Hmm

nymphadora · 07/08/2010 21:15

I hate that too as it makes it so awkward when you go out and are offered fish as the Veggie option.

I'm veggie by fussiness rather than any morals and I eat gelatine and dairy products etc although quite often eat vegan.

I don't eat quorn/fake meat and that confuses people too.

Though even more confusingly since I've been pregnant this time I'm craving ham and salmon Blush

corlan · 07/08/2010 21:16

YANBU . I have known people who describe themselves as 'vegetarians' because they somehow think it's a badge of honour but will quite happily eat a McDonalds or a Sunday Roast Beef if they feel like it. I also knew one guy who proudly proclaimed he was a vegetarian but ate meat at a business dinner 'to be polite' Confused.
The ones who should have a special section of hell reserved for them are the dicks who decide they are vegetarians at a works Christmas Meal and take the Vegetarian option which some poor 'real' vegetarian has ordered.It's happened to me a few times! Bastards!!

Bellepink · 07/08/2010 21:17

YANBU. It is confusing when the vegetarian's reason is because of the suffering of animals both in rearing and killing. Can't water bearing creatures suffer too? Being effectively suffocated to death, sometimes after being hooked in the mouth? Or lobsters being thrown into boiling water (which I think particularly appaling).

If someone is trying to make a contribution by just not eating meat but still eats fish, it's their personal choice, fair enough. But if same person is happy to offload about animals who suffer for our plates eg battery farming, then I think eating fish in that case is totally hypocritical.

PavlovtheCat · 07/08/2010 21:18

nymph i stopped being veggie in my second pregnancy as I craved ham and tomato sarnies so much I HAD to eat it. for the first time in 16 years.

Snobear4000 · 07/08/2010 21:18

Nymph: What a helpful post.

sanielle · 07/08/2010 21:23

YANBU Vegetarians don't eat fish. Winds me up because people tend to assume you eat fish and in south of the USA.. that is the vegetarian option. Sigh...

zipzap · 07/08/2010 21:24

YANBU - if they eat fish they are not vegetarian, surely they are pescatarian? (can't remember exact name Blush)

If they try to stick to a mostly veggie diet but eat a bit of fish too then it's a long winded but reasonable explanation as it doesn't claim to be veggie when not.

If I come across people like this then I usually respond with 'oh in that case I'm a meat-eating vegetarian, because I don't eat fish Grin'. Usually shuts them up because the logic follows their logic but when they hear the words they realise how silly it is to have a meat eating vegetarian! Or they try to get into arguments about how 'it's not the same' - Hmm er yes it is, fish are most definitely animals and most definitely not plants!

And sloany pony - yes, I'm one of those annoying people that will eat meat but hates fish. these days I will tolerate salmon just to be healthy of if i get stuck somewhere and that's the only option. but in an ideal world fish would be really unhealthy and I'd never have to eat another one again Grin

Ewe · 07/08/2010 21:26

YABU

Anyone who says they're a pescetarian in public is going to sound like a bit of a twat, I would just say I am a vegetarian in that situation too.

MiladyDeSummer · 07/08/2010 21:27

I describe myself as a vegetarian and I am a natural one. I was born that way and have not been able to eat meat since I was weaned from milk as a baby.

Over time I have learned to eat bits of white fish and chicken breast, flakes of salmon, but if you were like me growing up in the '70's not being able to stomach flesh, well it was a very unpleasant way to be.

Attitudes weren't as liberal as they are these days and when I was little other people assumed that I was the child of controlling hippie parents and would load my plate with grim meat.

It is worth using the term to mean non-fish-eaters though. While I can handle flakes of it, I am often given whole fish at BBQs with bones (boak) and skin (boak) Cats love me Grin

I don't know why you're angry at people who say they're Veggie but eat fish of any kind though. I wish I could, in fact I wish I could eat meat full stop. It doesn't bother me much these days but when I read a post like yours I do feel a bit sad because I can't help the way I am.

No disrespect to people who choose not to of course, that's your prerogative, I'm just putting forward the opinion of someone who has no choice and had a bit of a shite time with regards to food when I was a child thirty years ago.

And wonders why it riles someone who (presumably) can easily eat any type of food without feeling like a social outcast.

WoTmania · 07/08/2010 21:27

YANBU - it's one of my bugbears too.

Pescatarians, I believe, would be the appropriate term.

I knew a vegeatarian who ate chickens 'because they are stupid' Hmm

ant3nna · 07/08/2010 21:28

I was such a person for over 10 years. I stopped eating meat at 12 but my mum insisted I carry on eating fish and it stuck. I didn't eat gelatine or any other animal products. I also knew that I wasn't a true vegetarian.

The technical word is pescetarian but people tend to look at you funny when you tell them that you are a pescetarian. I found it a lot easier to tell people that I was a vegetarian that ate fish when I went to peoples houses.

I do get annoyed at 'vegetarians' that eat animal products though. I knew one girl who moaned that my ex ate rabbit in front of her but was ramming down crisps coated in animal products and Haribo only 30 minutes later. She still considered me to be a 'lesser' vegetarian than her even though I was far more strict with my pescetarianism than she was with vegetarianism.

thefirstmrsDeVere · 07/08/2010 21:31

It annoys me only because a lot of people then assume I eat fish. When I say I dont they say 'so you are a vegan then'.

It gets a bit irritating.

I know quite a few people who say they are virtually veggie except they eat chicken, fish and burgers, sasauges etc.

Why on earth would you want to tell people you are a vegetarian if you arent?

I only tell people when I need to.

QueenofDreams · 07/08/2010 21:32

A person who doesn't eat meat but does eat fish is called a pescetarian. Get them to at least know what they are Grin

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