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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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to think that Paedophiles nshould be either locked up for life or given a lethal injection?

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carriedababi · 21/07/2010 17:22

i'm sure theres alot of people on here that wouldn't agree, but why?

it's not like they can be cured.

and if they do something THAT bad, they shouldn't be allowed that chance to again

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pedovictim · 21/07/2010 19:27

this thread hasnt upset me, i've had years of councilling to help me come to terms with not only what happened to me and why but what happened to him aswell.

You just cant judge before you know the full situation. Yes there is a diffrence between child abusers and pedofilles but how do you tell the diffrence? There is no justification for any abuse that goes on - even in my situation it was wrong, with out a doubt wrong, BUT there are occasionaly bigger pictures to look at that as a member of the public you wont always see.

My parents have recently found out that they have moved next door to a known child sex offender, they have a 3yo boy and a 10week old girl and cant move house as they only moved in less than 1 year ago. its made my mum feel sick and brought back alot of memories she didnt need, but she would also say yabu.

Yes child abuse is wrong but so is murder

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carriedababi · 21/07/2010 19:38

pedovictim.

i'm glad it has not upset you.

yes i have said perhaps the lethal injection is going a bit too far.
so i am changing my mind on that one.

although i do still think they should spend the rest of their livess in prision.
as feel the rights of the children out weigh the rights of someone thats done something that awful.

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Thistledew · 21/07/2010 19:46

carrie, why are you ignoring the problem of consensual sex between 15 and 16 year olds? Or even 15 and 15 year olds? Please would you tell us why it is that you think that they should go to prison for life as well? Or if you say 10 years, what would you put as the cut off point?

DetectivePotato · 21/07/2010 20:32

YADNBU. If you have that very unhealthy interest in children then you shouldn't be allowed into society full stop.

I don't care about a paedo's rights etc. I'm just not interested if it is difficult for them being attracted to children, and if they do have a problem with this and admit it, then why don't they volunteer to be castrated? My only concern is for our innocent children, and we would all be safer if the vile 'people' were not ever ever allowed on our streets. They do not get rehabilitated. If they can't be forced to be castrated, they should simply be removed from society.

JaneS · 21/07/2010 20:47

Detective, paedophiles don't suddenly appear from nowhere, aged 45 and absolutely certain they're on the verge of abusing children. If they did, I'd have no problem with what you're saying, but as it is, it doesn't make sense to me.

DetectivePotato · 21/07/2010 20:50

What doesn't make sense?

JaneS · 21/07/2010 20:58

You said that if people are attracted to children and admit it, they should volunteer to be castrated. But what about the people who are a complete mess, in denial, etc.? I doubt many people can dispassionately and rationally accept that they're a danger to children.

I'm not trying to excuse paedophiles or anyone who hurts children, at all, but I think this kind of attitude is worrying too.

DetectivePotato · 21/07/2010 21:12

I am simply thinking of a story that read a while ago about a paedo abroad who volunteered to be castrated because he knew he had a problem and wanted it to go away.

I am well aware that he is probably in the minority and most paedos will not admit that have a problem, hence them pleading not guilty to their henious crimes.

I'm also not interested if they are in a mess or denial, if their messed up head is going to cause them to hurt any child, then they need to be kept away from society. If someone told me that some messed up person abused my son but he was in denial etc, I really wouldn't care at all. My only thoughts and concerns are with the children who are the innocent victims.

JaneS · 21/07/2010 21:18

Well, good for him. But I guess what I mean is, it doesn't help, does it? If someone can't admit - even to themselves - that they're a danger, they won't volunteer to be locked up, or watched, or castrated or whatever. They'll just carry on until they hurt someone.

That'd be my worry anyway.

DetectivePotato · 21/07/2010 21:22

Yes I see what you mean.

Thats why they should be forcebly locked up. Then they can't pose a threat.

JaneS · 21/07/2010 21:31

But ... how would you, or they, know they were a threat?

jooseyfruit · 21/07/2010 21:34

I think we should foster a culture of support for those people who become aware that they have sexual feelings towards children to seek help early on.

Make it so people aren't scared to come forward and seek help/treatment.

Don't know how you'd achieve this mind.

DetectivePotato · 21/07/2010 21:35

I'm talking about ones that have been caught, abusing or looking at on the net etc. They are just as guilty.

Obviously you can't do anything to someone who you suspect. I just mean the ones that have been caught. A few years (if that) in prison and they are out again. Its bollocks.

maktaitai · 21/07/2010 21:42

carriedababi, how on earth do you cope with your job? i think it's amazing that you do that.

I don't agree with your OP, I will never agree with capital punishment. but if I had to see what you have to see in your work, I'm not sure I could carry on. I hope you get good support where you are.

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carriedababi · 21/07/2010 22:53

what job?
i'm a full time sahm atm

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Poshwellies · 21/07/2010 23:01

I agree with Lady.

And I also speak as a victim of childhood abuse.

Everyone deserves rehabilitation.

BUT I would like to add,more specialised abuse counselling should be available for the victims-it's pretty poor on the NHS imo.

maktaitai · 21/07/2010 23:02

oh bloody hell sorry carrie, i mixed you up with ilovetiffany! right, time for bed, sorry.

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carriedababi · 21/07/2010 23:05

thats ok, i thought you were setting me up for some joke or something.

off to bedfordshire you go!

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