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That if someone posts about domestic abuse and a controlling husband

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NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 14:07

that she is not given very little advice or condemnation of her husband because he's a Muslim?

When and how did this happen? If a non muslim posts that her husband makes all decisions about children and this is affecting them badly and so on, she would be told to leave the bastard,. But a Catholic married to a Muslim meekly asks the exclusive group of Muslim sisters for advice and she is told to talk to an Imman(sic) or asked if he would allow the child to play with Muslim friends....

The prejudice just pisses me off, what is wrong with non muslim children?

Am I unreasonable to think that people are people first and advice should not be tailored to appease and cow down to prejudice and sexist controlling men and their unfortunate wives.

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dittany · 17/07/2010 14:15

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Gay40 · 17/07/2010 14:15

I was thinking: why do so many of the posts about abusive and controlling husbands include so much "but he's lovely when he's not smashing my head open with an iron" and "he's great dad apart from when he's beating them with a cricket bat". Not to mention "oohh but if I leave, I'll have to leave my lovely house."
FFS if you live with one of these morons, leave, and don't get shirty when other people suggest it. Put up, shut up, or get out.

ivykaty44 · 17/07/2010 14:19

If I go onto a post about a muslim woman having problems with her husnband - I leave the post as I have no idea what the setting is as I have no experiance in this type of household and other posters seems to know all about what is happening.

So this is why i will leave - if the op hasn't stated about her religion then of course I can give advice in ignorant bliss of the advice not being appropriate

NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 14:21

I was just so shocked....the thread is called Muslim sisters....it's very sad.

Gay40, when people do post, as victims, in horrid situations there is a plethora of 'he sounds like a twunt' 'leave him' 'it'll never get any better' not 'oh I can imagine my husband being the same, must be Asian husbands, chuckle chuckle'....or 'can your children play with Muslim children, this would make your DH happy.'

I have posted on there but I may have to hide it as it's so depressing.

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dittany · 17/07/2010 14:25

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Gay40 · 17/07/2010 14:26

I've not read the other thread. I just get very bored of people sking for help then constructing a million reasons why they can't possibly do anything about it.

dittany · 17/07/2010 14:29

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NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 14:29

the post is by feelinglost2010

sorry.

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Alambil · 17/07/2010 14:30

the OP of the thread needs to contact Womens Aid and they can help her, taking into consideration all the religious issues and customs and may be able to point her to a specific Muslim support system

Gay40 · 17/07/2010 14:33

Yes Dittany, and then they get hundreds of supportive answers on here, which they largely ignore in favour of defending their moronic violent partners. And they do realise because they post on here ffs
I don't read them all, anyway. It makes me despair of women who put up with nonsense.

NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 14:36

Gay40, that is the nature of abuse. By the time the woman has noticed that the behaviour is wrong she's already been stripped of her self esteem and usually friendships and perspective. It's hard to believe if you've no experience of this but there's a reason that people put up with the most outlandish shit.

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NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 14:39

Perhaps I am more alarmed about the lack of real 'exclamation' and 'condemnation'.

Can you imagine if that person wasn't Muslim and on a regular thread? the responses would be so different.

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zerominuszero · 17/07/2010 14:40

Congratulations NotHereThanks, you have discovered that the religion of Islam and the humane treatment of women is mutually exclusive.

dittany · 17/07/2010 14:48

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NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 14:49

I am rapidly coming to that conclusion. I am an atheist and so find all religion and their observances rather odd, but it saddens me that Islam expects so much obedience to both itself and to men. Christianity, as far as I can see, has a God that loves all and wants kindness to fellow men not a life of ritual and submission.

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NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 14:51

Dittany, with all the Burkha threads and Muslim women pushing forward to protest that they are not oppressed I find this is a true source of evidence that many are.

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dittany · 17/07/2010 14:54

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NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 14:58

Ahem, indeed.....virtual slapped wrist well received!! Okay so no religion escapes my disapproval!!

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dittany · 17/07/2010 15:00

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NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 15:02

Abuse disguised as religion has got to be one of the most hideous things on earth.

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NotHereThanks · 17/07/2010 15:03

I would love your brain on loan so I can tackle the multitude of anti women stuff I keep finding on the internet....just one day, I'll give you a good price!!

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Quality · 17/07/2010 15:08

I think you are missing the fact that the thread title is quite exclusive. I would never have opened that thread, I thought it was a chat thread for muslims, so she isn't being given 'different' responses because we don't give a shit or are being racist, it's because no-one has seen it.

And your post was not very supportive, was it?