to hate the use of the word c**t as an abusive term?

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I don't have a problem with swearing - I've only used asterisks as I'm aware that some people prefer not to have the word cunt in a subject headline.

I have no problem with someone referring to their vagina/vulva as their cunt if they so wish. (I'd probably go for a euphemism - but each to their own)

But I do have a problem with someone suggesting that an abusive husband or partner is "being a cunt" (as I read in a post earlier). This is derogatory - suggesting that the female genitalia is base or sordid.

AIBU or am I overthinking this?

And

'we've been trying to substitute motherfucker for cunt'

Have you seriously discussed it???

'MN Royalty can fuck right off.'

thats got be quote of the week!!

That's interesting bof. I was just thinking that I have no problem with it as a swear word, but when you posted that u realised that actually I have no problem with women using it as a swear word

I'm a little surprised at myself, but I would be very offended if a man called me a cunt, and not at all bothered if a woman did.

I'm going to have to ponder this.

As for the mn royalty thing, it seems a little unfair to attribute an opinion to a hypothetical group of people and then berate them for said opinion. All a bit too abstract for me.

Who the he'll are the royalty anyways?!

Hell, not he'll

Thank you very much Dustycups and smallorange.

I mean, honestly, what makes them royalty? The fact since they've been here since day 1? Big fucking deal. All that means is that their kids are 10 or older.

So because I only had my son 13 months ago and had no need of MN before then, I'm not as important as them?

FFS

Are we talking about cunts here or MNers? I think they may be separate debates. Perhaps not in everyone's eyes...

Sometimes it's the only word that will do. My ex husband, for example, is a cunt

No, can't think of any other word that describes him better

Interesting about 'cunt' still being affectionate in some places. Unfortunately it's a patriarchal language, and female terms tend to derogate over time because of it. Like 'tart' - used to be an affectionate term for a little girl (from 'sweetheart'). Look what happened to that.

Although I disagree with the principle of the Worse Swearword Ever having the referent that it has, I do like using it as an abusive term. I shouldn't, but there we are

There is no royalty, just some posters who think there are.

I think they're a bunch of cunts.

Oh and Crunchie- maybe it's a bit like the N word? In that it becomes a different thing used by the oppressed group that is 'reclaiming' their right to use it so long as they define it's context? Of course that is controversial too, and clearly not every black person is in agreement about whether ever using that word is acceptable. But as long as an influential subgroup has taken the word up, then no amount of hand-wringing from other groups is going to make much difference, because for the group using it, the word simply doesn't evoke the connotations that it does for those who object.

I think that's roughly parallel to how 'cunt' is used on MN anyway.

I do agree that it is a sign of all the mysogeny in our culture. Exactly in the same way that there is no childfriendly slang term for female genitalia. Boys have so many words for their penis they never have any ambiguity as to what they are referring to or potential vulgarity associated. But girl have to use cutesy euphemisms (like flower or tuppence FFS) or words that are considered base. It really infuriates me (I have DD call her genitals 'a fanny' but some people are still at this but would not be at 'willy' for a boy (FFS))

Oh and I agree with Tee if there are people who think they MN royalty (other than the fab women who set up this website) then they can indeed fuck right off.

I don't really understand the venom about the mners. So some people think they're the cool kids, why is that a problem? Why should anyone care?

I rally don't get all the finger pointing and the 'ooh look at them they think they're so special'. Who cares?

I couldn't care less who you are. I will judge you entirely on whether your opinion is the same as mine . Newbie and oldie alike.

Bof, I was wondering that. I will have to ponder all of this a lot more.

I tried "reclaiming" it but I'm too repressed, it makes me cringe when I hear folk using it. Swearing in general makes me cringe, but I am prone to copious use of the f word when angered. Every year since 1994 my new year's resolution has been "stop swearing".

Hear hear Crunch

Mistress you are my favourite person on this thread, because you agree with me

And that is how this works.

YANBU - but the word f*d is even worse!

I just want to explain about the cringing, I am one of those "why can't we all be nice to each other?\manners cost nothing" types, I tut at queue jumpers, can't deal with confrontation and probably won't blossom until I'm at least 75. I don't have a problem with swearing, I just want to live in some sort of utopian netherworld where people still wear hats and get milk delivered.

Ddd that sounds like a nice world to strive for.

Stewie, yes that is rude. But I think by lumping posters together perhaps you're removing some of the individual responsibility for that rudeness. We all stand alone here. None of us have a right to be cunts for cunt's sake.

Do you see what I did there?

But surely that has to be tongue-in-cheek? I might label myself court jester. I could try, but it would only work if other people started referring to me as the jester and grouping my idiosyncrasies as 'jesterish'

I don't know. It just all seems a bit of a playground thing. I will keep my two hoots to myself, for I cannot give them to the concept of a nonexistent royalty.

agree with DDD, i often fantasize about living life in an ealing comedy..
as for the mn royalty thing, does piss me off but only becuase i'm jealous, i was meant for a life of royalty..