Milk intolerant... diet ideas please?

[StShakey]

I think my DS2 has possibly got a milk intolerance - always been very, very sicky, and still is now he's weaning onto solids.
It has been suggested to me that both he and I have a two week dairy-free diet (he's fully BF).
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can someone give me some ideas for meals, for both he and I? I really haven't a clue.
Breakfast this morning was bread and marmalade with black coffee for me, and a pureed apple and pear for him (no butter!).
Can we have some suggestions, please?

OMG! Just realised no chocolate for me tonight with my bedtime cup of milky tea!!! Eek!!! HELP!

oatly is a good replacement
can he not have cereal?
Eggs/beans on toast

Pure (dairy free margarine)

I tend to just use Pure and oatly as replacements which seems to work.

Pasta with tomoato sauce (dairy free parmasean which is vile, but the kids like it)

Hello again .

You need to get yourself some 'Pure sunflower spread' or some 'vitalite' as a butter substitute - both are dairy free.

You also need to find some oat milk - look for 'oatly' with added calcium (the organic version doesn't have the calcium), which most supermarkets (except Asda ime) stock these days. It's not delicious, but it's ok, and does make decent pancake batter!

You can have chocolate, but need to develop a taste for dark stuff - Divine or Green & Blacks dark are both dairy free (labelling is odd on G&B now, but the dark is df - see their website for more details).

I tend to have cereal with soya milk (but I wouldn't recommend substituting lots of soya products initially, as a good number of milk intolerant babies also have issues with that) for breakfast, or muffins or toast with egg or bacon (kingsmill muffins are def df, and I think Tesco's own)

Tomato based pasta dishes are fine, as is 'meat and 2 veg', or casseroles. Tbh most things can be adapted, except cheesy stuff.

Gotta dash now, but will check in again later in case you need any more info.

Oatly? Never heard of it!!! He's nearly 6mo; is it appropriate?

Okay, this is how much of a clue I don't have: I didn't think you could have eggs! Aren't they classed as 'dairy'?

Regardless of his teeny breakie, he's still fast asleep now!

Thanks for your help

Argh... Cantsleep, thank you!

Sorry Ilovemy.... Yes, he can have cereal, I just wasn't prepared/organised enough this morning to have in any cereal I could make up with water, and I hadn't expressed any milk yet! (And the stuff in the freezer is, obviously, frozen!)

I'm off to the shops... thanks again for all your help x

Well technically if he's not quite 6 months yet then no food is appropriate, but it's as appropriate as the next thing IYSWIM! It's not nutritious enough to be a main drink, but fine for using in solids - I could never be bothered with expressing.

Eggs aren't dairy no, on account of them coming from chickens rather than a dairy herd (), but you'd be surprised how many people think the same!

If you end up staying dairy free and want some nice cake recipes btw then I highly recommend this book. It's farking lovely!

How did you get on at the shops?

this so timely, just posted on the other thread as logged on to look up help / info as just got back from docs re DD milk intolerance as its not getting better! And the shops, where its getting a pain to think, no, cant have that its got milk in it, no, cant have that its got chocolate in it, etc etc etc so replacement food ideas always useful!

Also never heard of oatly, will look it up.DD has been having soya milk but although the sysmptoms have subsided they have not gone so still worried that it may be something else or that I am unwittingly giving her something that has milk it in.

Tough though when we are out, she was at a party at the weekend, full of good dairy free stuff but something she had gave her diarohea the next day, so Cantsleep will check out your recommended cake book as we adore cakes!

I use PURE - its good and DD likes it.

How old is your dd glac? It's not recommended to routinely use soya milk for those under 2, and if she has a problem with milk then it's about 30-40% likely that she also has (or will develop if given too much exposure) a problem with soy.

It does seem hard at first, but you do soon get used to no dairy. I had to give it up until my dd was 20 months, and am currently off it for 12 month old ds, with no sign of his allergy abating yet.

My God, CantSleep, what would we do without you!?!

Okay... first day, and so far, so good. Leaving both little Monkeys with my Mum, I flew around Sainsbugs. Picked up the Pure, but could only get the organic Oatly. Also bought a few Ella's kitchen baby meals as a fall back for when we're out.

The Pure is actually suprisingly nice (I'm a total butter fan, never ever use marg) and the Oatly is fine (reminds me of those never-big-enough plastic long-life milk tubs that spill everywhere when you open them thingies). It look weird in my tea (now beside me) but tastes okay.

Do you mind me asking you a few other Q's? If he's not getting any extra calcium from say, yoghurts etc, and I'm now not, is he getting enough from my (now dairy free) milk? Should I consider a substitute?
And, can I cook with Pure as though I would butter? He loves the apple/pear/cinnamon puree I've been making him and I usually soften that in melted butter.

Thank you SOOOOOO much for your help!

... oh yer, and the eggs thing?

He's getting solids cos he was NEVER a small bubba, is a milk-monster and has only once gone through the night so far (the little tease...)

He will be getting plenty of calcium, as it's still in your milk. You, however, may get a bit low in it if you don't eat a lot of other calcium rich foods (suggestions of some of these on here). If you are worried (and need to continue to be dairy free after your 2 week trial) then you might want to try a calcium supplement. I never have, but am planning to get one next time I'm in Boots, as am tandem feeding and now have additional calcium requirements too.

Yes, you can cook with pure as you would butter.

Oh, poss worth mentioning that symptoms sometimes worsen after a few days (4 with both of mine), but don't be put off by this. Not sure that you'll notice if only symptom is sickness, but with both of mine there was a lot of screaming and misery too.

There is an Oatly cream that I get at Waitrose, although some people manage to get it at Tescos. It's thicker than oatly milk and is good as a cream replacement, and also is good in putting in sauces to thicken them up.

Also, a good dairy free chocolate called Kinnerton that I got at Sainsbury's and is really really good.

Coconut milk is also quite good in sauces and adds flavor.

Re chocolate. You can eat fry;s chocolate cream. No dairy. And green and black's plain, I believe.

Oatly is great - as someone said its good for pancakes too. There is also an Almond milk that Waitrose and some health/whole food shops do - thats good as it also doesn't separate when you heat it (goats milk, soy milk does). Can't remember the name though...

BTW - its rare for butter to affect someone who is otherwise dairy intolerant - but happy for others to contradict - ?

You will also probably find that its cows dairy - small amounts of goats or sheeps for cheese or milk is usually ok. I use manchego cheese for my DD who is dairy intolerant - I don't give her loads but she's fine with it.

Goats or sheeps is only ok for around 20% of milk intolerant children actually, as the proteins are v similar, so it's not advised to use.

And butter has affected both of mine...

I stand corrected . My DD is obviously lucky as she is ok with butter and sheeps cheese.

be thankful for small things sbw! I blardy love butter - maybe it's my dc's way of trying to get me to lose weight .

When my son was lactose/soya intolerant ginger nut biscuits were fine for him, everyone used to call him the little ginger nut 'cos they matched his hair

This is a list of Sainsbury own brand food that is dairy free here

You are all wonderful!!!

Glad to hear Waitrose does Oatly/Oatly cream as 'normally' shop there (I don't 'abnormally' shop anywhere else...like putting on a weird walk in the isles, or anything). Actually, Ocado for me these days until I get the two Monkeys sorted out!

Also delighted to hear about the coconut milk as promised DH a thai red curry one evening this week...

CantSleep, what kind of herd produces coconut milk ????????

As a veggy tending to vegan, I'm quite intregiued as to why Almond milk, soya milk and Oatly have been mentioned, but no mention of rice milk which is a lot easier than almond and Oatley to pick up in the shops. Is there a reason?

There's a reason why I haven't mentioned rice milk, yes . Firstly I'd dispute that it's easier to get than oatly these days (unless you shop in Asda). That was the case 3 years ago, but not any more. Secondly, rice milk contains some arsenic, the levels of which have been much discussed in recent years, and I believe that it is now recommended not to give to young children where a viable alternative exists. Thirdly, it tastes like shit in all but rice pudding .

I have searched for an amusing coconut herd image for you Shakey, but am now having to have a sit down after uncovering an image of a giant coconut crab!

Oh, and now that I know where you shop, you'll be wanting to buy Essential Almond Biscuits, Waitrose Dark choc with amaretti and Lyme Regis Chocolate marzipan bars. At least you will if you like almond as much as I do .
Actually, I've recently started using Ocado, and their website allergen labelling is very good.

I guess I'm going to have to give up slowly poisoning myself now with the rice milk. Thanks for the heads up!