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Milk intolerant... diet ideas please?

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StShakey · 02/11/2009 08:40

I think my DS2 has possibly got a milk intolerance - always been very, very sicky, and still is now he's weaning onto solids.
It has been suggested to me that both he and I have a two week dairy-free diet (he's fully BF).
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can someone give me some ideas for meals, for both he and I? I really haven't a clue.
Breakfast this morning was bread and marmalade with black coffee for me, and a pureed apple and pear for him (no butter!).
Can we have some suggestions, please?

OMG! Just realised no chocolate for me tonight with my bedtime cup of milky tea!!! Eek!!! HELP!

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StShakey · 03/11/2009 16:58

Eek to arsenic! Sadly, also eek to marzipan HOWEVER the rest sound absolutely delicious!!! Thank you!!!

TBH, it's all not nearly as bad as I was expecting... and the Oatly is really creamy in my decaf

Now (last thing I promise...possibly!?!) whats a good substitute for the cheese I'd normally grate over the lasagna? Am I right in thinking vegetarian cheese is still dairy??? (Anything would suprise me these days)

Shake x

Oh yer... and I might even loose a bit of weight in the next couple of weeks - amazing! Davina's post baby work-out has been helping, but not quick enough for my liking, especially when I only get to do it a couple of times a week!

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CantSleepWontSleep · 03/11/2009 17:11

Oh dear, now for the bad news...

Cheese substitutes (made from soya) are universally revolting.

You can get a soft cheese called toffuti in Holland and Barrett which is ok, but hard cheeses are things like 'cheezly', which are really so bad that I don't even bother buying them any more. But of course feel free to judge for yourself!

StShakey · 03/11/2009 17:14

You know what? I'll just take your advice... THANK YOU xxx

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tatt · 03/11/2009 23:09

you can also cook with stork hard margarine, which is a lot cheaper than pure spread and will mean you can afford hash browns and egg or bacon and egg or sausages and beans for breakfast. You can eat porridge made with water or kippers. Scrambled egg and smoked salmon is nice too.

Sainsburys jaffa cakes are, I think, milk free - they used to be. Also after eights if you need a chocolate fix

Meat and veg or pasta with tomato based sauces are easy dairy free meals.

MsWilson · 05/11/2009 09:55

hi, some dinner recipes I have been doing which would work for you (but maybe not so great for your son?):

paella

fajitas (though sadly no gaucamole or sour cream!)

lots of chicken & pork with root vegetables (just coating the parsnips, celeriac, apples with some olive oil & garlice)

cereal with almond milk

pasta with chicken & veggies in OO & garlic

lots of eggs & heinz backed beans for breakfast

bean salad of : tuna, cannelloni beans, chick peas, beet root & sweet corn seasoned with basalmic vinegar

I found a good splet bread at my local health food store. Sainsburys crumpets are Dairy free too.

I have been DF for almost three weeks now.. its sooo hard! I am not sure how I am going to make it through X-mas.

hope that helps- good uck!

StShakey · 05/11/2009 11:38

Thanks MsW. We're just four days in today and so far, so good, although DS still getting sick so we'll see.
I love cooking, and actually haven't found it difficult yet, with the exception of cheese...
We make our own bread, and I love Willies Real Chocolate and at this time of year loads of casseroles and stews and roasts, so I've been able to check every ingredient. I had eggs and beans this morning, but I have tried the Oatly with porridge and it was delicious!
Yer... about the Christmas thing though... there's just no substitute for that boozy creamy custardy trifle!!!

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CantSleepWontSleep · 07/11/2009 13:58

How's it going now Shakey? Any reduction in the sickness yet?

ParanoidAtAllTimes · 07/11/2009 14:08

I'm in the same boat as you StShakey! I also had to give up eggs as no dairy made no difference! Soya will be the next thing to go...

Here's a lovely recipe you could try.

ParanoidAtAllTimes · 07/11/2009 14:11

There seem to be quite a few of us dairy free bfing mums... anyone interested in a support thread for recipe ideas, product recommendations, general moral-boosting?!

CantSleepWontSleep · 08/11/2009 19:35

Oh I like the look of that recipe PAAT. I've been meaning to make coconut rice pudding for ages, but might just have to do it this week now I've seen that.

StShakey · 08/11/2009 21:01

Unfortunately, no reduction noted YET. Infact, all I can report is that I'm getting serious withdrawal from a good cuppa tea!!!

Mean DH made gorgeous smelling/looking cookies yesterday with real butter "I forgot", was the best he could come up with... umm...

DS2 is such a happy little soul, and the vomitting really doesn't seem to bother him. He eats really well (never sick after food; maybe he's just drinking too much???), and I've made him some yummy 'non-dairy' dinners this past week (my Dad pulled a face at the spinach, basil, parsnip and apple puree I made...until he tried a bit!)

On the plus side, both DH and I have actually decided to keep on buying the Pure (at least) as we could probably both do with trying to reduce our cholesterol! (It made really yummy mash potato this evening)

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StShakey · 08/11/2009 21:04

BTW, that recipe looks absolutely delicious!!! All ingredients are in my shopping basket (good old Ocado!!!) xxx

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tatt · 08/11/2009 21:34

Being sickly can be reflux rather than milk intolerance, although milk can make reflux worse so no harm in trying dairy free . Are you doing all the reflux-y things like keeping him upright after feeds?

StShakey · 09/11/2009 21:02

Hi tatt... yep, upright with the muslin ready to catch!

HOWEVER, not upright - or even awake really - after dreamfeed. Straight down, no winding, tip-toes, creeping out of the nursery, and not a single bother!?!

It's really odd... I dunno...

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tatt · 09/11/2009 21:27

yes that sounds odd. Oh well keep up the dairy free then see if he's worse when you reintoduce it.

Are you keeping a food diary in case something else is bothering him?

StShakey · 09/11/2009 21:32

err...

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ParanoidAtAllTimes · 10/11/2009 04:24

You may end up needing to give up eggs and/or soya like me
This is especially fun in my case, being vegetarian! Oh well, think of the weight loss...
I made hot chocolate today using oat milk and Cadbury's drinking chocolate. It was lovely!

StShakey · 12/11/2009 19:35

OOOOOOOooooohhhhh............

He's still being really sick

HOWEVER, still not a bother on him, and he's still growing and growing and GROWING!!!

(Haven't had eggs. In fact, not had very much 'Pure' either).

How long until I can have a good cup of tea now??? I'm counting the days...

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CantSleepWontSleep · 12/11/2009 19:46

Oh .
Have you been having much soya?

StShakey · 12/11/2009 20:09

Hiya... nope, not much at all: two coffee's in Costa's (one on Monday, one on Wednesday!). Although I like the taste of Pure, I'm really not using too much of it.
I dunno... and I'm the only person worrying about it. He's the happiest Wee Man, and, like I said before, growing normally (I think he's having a big growth spurt at the mo).

He doesn't get sick after food, just my milk . Could he be allergic to me??? Okay... I sound stupid, I know, but it's bothering me. My DH has been a great support (with the excepting of his buttery-biscuits on Saturday ) and says to make sure it's not a dairy allergy I should stick it out until next Sunday, but so far I haven't noticed any changes at all.

The one thing I keep wondering (as I gaze at him guzzling) is that - well, that! He absolutely gulps down his milk, like it'll be his last drink! Poor little fella! Could it simply be that he drinks too much, too fast???

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CantSleepWontSleep · 12/11/2009 20:40

Possibly. Have you read this before?

CantSleepWontSleep · 12/11/2009 20:41

Soya is in bought bread and loads of other stuff too btw.

StShakey · 12/11/2009 20:53

OMG CantSleep!!!

(Sorry...typing one-handed as now have PFB on lap following a nightmare - very unusual for him so I'm enjoying he's having a cuddle)

SOUNDS FAR MORE REASONABLE!!! I have a huge milk supply; I'll pour milk if a feed is missed and can still really, really feel the let-down, which I'm certain had stopped by this stage with DS1.

Can I please, please PLEASE have a cup of tea with milk now??? PLEASE???????

oh. DS1 is asleep

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StShakey · 12/11/2009 21:00

oh yer, sorry, we make our own bread so I know there's no Soya in that, and I've become a really boring ingredients reader so honestly not had much Soya!!! Promise!!!

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Starshinetiger · 12/11/2009 21:20

StShakey - I would stay off it all for 2 weeks to see if really a difference, but ime I would have expected you to see a difference by now.

I had to go intolerant substances free with DS, but he still ended up on hypoallergenic formula - although he had really bad reflux and I think that's the reason we ended up on formula - and now still can't tolerate dairy or eggs (the former giving him bad tummy, the latter eczema). Have been dairy, soya and egg free with DD since she was 3 weeks old and am going to try her on dairy next week (she'll be 8 months) to see if it has any effect. So, I totally sympathise - I have found far too many good substitutes for it to be doing any great wonders for weight loss, but is at least containing my weight, so it's not weight gain

PAAT - think your idea for recipe sharing is great - love that coconut rice pudding one.

Can I totally recommend hot choc made with Oatly and Green & Black's cocoa powder (and a teensy bit of sugar) - is yummy scrummy, especially in this cold weather.

BTW - Oatly is on 2 fo £2 in our local Waitrose this week, might be a nationwide thing?

Agree that cheese is a big miss and I am fantasising about my cheese board and pint of ice cream that I will have when I finish bfing, but am enjoying bfing more than I miss them at the moment!

Sorry, haven't been much help, but just to empathise and to say keep at it - it can take a week for all dairy to exit your system and a week for it then to exit your DS' system.