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Wanted...bread without soy flour. Can anyone help??

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simpson · 08/01/2009 14:51

My DD is 11mths and severely intolerant to all dairy products and soy too

Does anyone know of any bread you can buy that doesn't have soy flour in it as all the ones I've looked at seem to have it in.

TIA

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katch · 08/01/2009 19:03

Good recipes to be found in Cooking Without. And most wheat-free breads don't use yeast ime, so you wouldn't need a breadmaker.
In my wheat-free days, I always found the breads more palatable if slightly toasted.
And a good, easy pudding is tinned peach slices in grape juice with oatly cream, sometimes with a meringue nest - much easier than faffing around with custards and pastries.
Good luck.

simpson · 08/01/2009 19:11

Silverfrog - Am near a waitrose on Sun so could get some then.

Naswm - She is on neocate. She has only been on it for a few wks (had real battle to get it for her, whole other story!!)

Katch - thanks will try cooking without...cheers!!

The problem I have is that the puddings I can give her are fruit based and it has caused her to have a really sore bum as her poo is too acidy iyswim (sorry TMI)so I need to find things that don't have so much fruit in.

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naswm · 08/01/2009 19:29

I am very embarrassed - sorry I called DD and DS

re the fruit for puddings, I do agree how difficult it is, DS even now wont eat puddings - because he coudlt have them before and now doesnt like them. He is mad on fruit tho. And does like dry or sweet biscuits. It is tricky but yuou can get soya and dairy free biscuits and maybe that is worth invetigating? (DS couldt have egg either which was tricky, but I did find some)

btw I had a fab first birthday 'cake' recipe somewhere... no idea where atm tho, but I will think...

simpson · 08/01/2009 19:50

Naswm - DD has the tesco value rich tea biscuits which are dairy/soya free

Bless her, its the only "treat" she can have!!

DD used to love yogurts, rice puddings etc. So its a shame she can't have that.

She does love her fruit but her bum is red raw and nearly bleeding its so sore

Guess I am going to have to get off my backside and make rice puddings etc

Cake recipe would be fab have found a couple on google but the more I have the better

Also will DD be able to have icing??

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strawberrycornetto · 08/01/2009 20:33

My DS is also allergic to milk and soya. I have found the best place for bread is M&S, they had a few loaves which do not have soy flour, and also hot cross buns!

I will definitely look for oat cream, didn't know it existed and that would be really helpful for cooking.

katch · 08/01/2009 20:41

Strawberry, you'll find Oatly with the rice milk.
And, Simpson, another book I had was by Terence Stamp - can't remember the title, but there were lots of cake and muffin recipes, including a chocolate cake which I made for my birthday.

simpson · 08/01/2009 21:06

Strawberry - Can see from your profile that your DS is similar age to my DD.

What kind of things do you feed him for dinner?

Am getting fed up of giving DD rice/couscous veg & chicken or beef

BTW DD doesn't like pasta.

She does like fish fingers and baked beans (her absolute fav)

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strawberrycornetto · 08/01/2009 21:45

DS eats a lot of casserole - see my previous desperate post.

He also likes baked beans. I make him kind of salmon fish cakes without the breadcrumbs (he's also allergic to egg), he likes pasta and I have now managed to get him to eat pasta bolognese. He also had spiced asian kedgegree with the rest of the family last week .

It is really tough though, he's at nursery but I am really struggling. Am worried he's still on too young food but its been difficult with the allergies and he was also ill for quite a while and was refusing lots of food.

I haven't tried couscous yet. What do you do it with?

simpson · 08/01/2009 21:54

Have to say all these allergies are really testing me as I am not the world's best cook

I worry that DD is eating food to young for her too (not helped by still having no teeth )

I have a tomato, basil, garlic, olive oil sauce in freezer in ice cube trays which goes on everything for DD.

Couscous - I just boil kettle pour boiling water over couscous and cover it then after about 5/10 mins drain it and fluff it up!!

much easier than rice and got loads of protein

Have to say DD is a fab eater (thank God!!) She will also now eat spaghetti (chopped up small) but as for pasta shells - forget it!!

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fishie · 08/01/2009 21:58

have you tried quinoa? more protein than couscous.

i have found that bread really isn't that difficult to make, while there are a few variations generally it is a matter of following instructions, no great intuition required.

TheLadyEvenstar · 08/01/2009 22:05

I am allergic to soya and have always been, My mum used to buy only certain breads after spending time checking labels..I was a baby when they diagnosed me as being allergic to soya and I am old now lol

Now I make my own bread! much nicer as well.

simpson · 08/01/2009 22:25

Evenstar - do you use a bread maker? I have been told you can get packs of ingredients already made up to use? If this is the case then even someone like me might be able to do it!!

Fishie - whats quinoa? Is it a couscous/rice alternative?

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rubytwokids · 08/01/2009 22:44

Hi Simpson. I had this problem too. DD has more or less outgrown her intolerances, but she couldn't have diary or soya. DS now can't have gluten, dairy or soya.

I used a breadmaker, but for days when I couldn't be doing with it all, I managed to find a few dairy and soya-free loaves. I think Duchy Originals ones are OK, as are some by Cronks. Beware a lot of the bread mixes, as they seem to contain soya as an emulsifier.

For rice milk custard, try using slightly more custard powder than the instructions on the tin specify (2 very heaped tablespoons is good) and slightly less rice milk. The rice milk is so sweet that you can use less sugar too. Also, don't be too surprised whrn the finished custard is a weird golden colour, instead of that pale yellow. Don't know why this is!

Organix make some dairy and soya-free treats. Their chewy bars are good, as are the animal biscuits and ABC biscuits, but stay off the moon biscuits as they have milk in them. Most sorbets don't contain dairy or soya (but do check). These make good ice cream substitutes. Also Booja Booja now do a DELICIOUS range of dairy and soya-free ice cream-type desserts, but you can't get them in supermarkets - try health shops or organic shops.

If you're looking for chocolate, the Lindt 70% stuff is good and dairy and soya-free. It melts nicely and you can cook with it. Kelloggs Coco Pops are dairy and soya-free. I know they are not hugely healthy, but it's not like our dcs can gorge themselves on an awful lot of crap, so I do make some allowances for them!

For margarine, the only one I have found is 'Pure' sunflower (the one in the yellow tub). It tastes fine on bread or toast and makes perfectly good cakes. Only things I have yet to get it to work for are chocolate crispie cakes and flapjacks - both crumble to nought.

I hope this helps! Good luck!

rubytwokids · 08/01/2009 22:48

I forgot to add: bourbon biscuits!!!!

rubytwokids · 08/01/2009 22:48

I forgot to add: bourbon biscuits!!!!

fishie · 08/01/2009 22:51

simpson. quinoa is a grain itself, can be got in supermarkets (bigger sainsbury/waitrose that sort of place) or health food shop.

making bread. you truly don't need a packet. there are only three ingredients - yeast flour water. maybe a bit of oil.

i don't have a breadmaker though so can't suggest what to put in yours. can you dig ou and post info, sure someone can suggest something very straightforward for you.

simpson · 08/01/2009 22:53

Thanks Ruby You have been a great help.

DD already has the organix crisp thingies and has tescos rich tea biscuits which don't state milk in ingredients so i assume they are
ok...

The Booja Booja stuff sounds fab Is it pricey?? Will definately try and get hold of that!! And also sorbets.

Cheers for tip on custard!!

LOL at thats how I feel!!

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TheLadyEvenstar · 08/01/2009 22:55

Simpson I have been using a bread maker for over 3 years now and would not be without it!!! It is easy to use and the house smells gorgeous witht he smell of fresh bread mhmmmmmmmmm

fishie · 08/01/2009 22:56

oh bugger don't ever forget the salt in bread. it doesn't taste nice and goes mouldy without. so, to revise.

water flour yeast salt and sometimes oil/butter

katch · 08/01/2009 22:57

Simpson, I hate to bring this up, but the sore bottom might be due to the quantities of tomato sauce your DD eats.

Have found an excelent book: Healthy Gluten-free Eating by Darina Allen (she of Ballynaloe cookery School).
Sticky toffee pudding, polenta cake, scones, and loads of savoury dishes you can make as family meals.

Have you tried rice noodles? A really quick meal is salmon steaks baked or fried on top of noodles with soy sauce and veg like baby sweetcorn/ broccoli, which you could boil or stir-fry. I'm assuming there's a substitute for soy sauce, otherwise butter always went down well with my DCs. You can also use strips of beef, chicken, pork or prawns .

simpson · 08/01/2009 23:07

Think I'm going to have to dust down the bread maker

Katch - Do you think it could be the tomato? She tends to have the sauce one meal a day (thought the tomato was very diluted though) but sometimes does just have plain food with pure spread on. TBH she seems worse when she eats grapes, satsuma or raspberries but might give her a rest with the sauce.

I haven't given her strawberries as I know allergies in them is common. Maybe the same with tomato....

Haven't tried her with noodles but she does love salmon!! So will give that one a go. She adores her veg and I have yet to find one she doesn't like!!

I won't be saying this when she is 2 I am sure

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trixymalixy · 08/01/2009 23:11

This has turned into a great thread!!

I'm afraid the booja booja ice cream has cashew nuts in it,which you would probably want to avoid at 11 months, sorry! You can gte rice ice cream from goodness direct, but I've never bought it as the postage is so pricey.

You can buy load of different bread mixes, you just tip them in, add water and hey presto.

Although it is really not that difficult to do from scratch. I second the advice about the salt!!

simpson · 08/01/2009 23:23

Bummer about booja booja But will still try sorbets etc.

I guess I am lucky as DD is such a good eater (apart from pasta)

Just wish I could give her a yogurt

What about rusks mashed with rice/oat milk?? Would DD be able to have that?

I know its high in sugar but she doesn't eat fromage frais etc...

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katch · 08/01/2009 23:30

I've known a few children who've had rashes around the mouth from tomatoes - and I had to leave off them when I had IBS.
Have you tried things like good old (gluten free) sausage + mash, or shepherd's pie?
I firmly believe in an easy life, which imo is family meals not a special effort for one member, whether it be because of allergies or being the youngest.
Unfortunately I didn't reach this conclusion until DS3 was weaning.

simpson · 08/01/2009 23:37

She does have shepherds pie and fish pie too.

Don't bake it in oven though as DS(3) eats it and said crunchy bits "are dirty"

DD loves fish fingers not sure if she could manage sausage as she has no teeth

Tonight I made her couscous, chicken, leeks, carrots, parsnips and a sauce made from pureed veg (sauce already in freezer)which she loved soooo much she ate tomorrows portion too but one of the chicken bits was a bit big for her so she gagged a bit & was sick

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