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Tsm the Sinclair method -scam?

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Hotdiggity766 · 28/10/2024 20:29

I've researched and signed up to the Sinclair method this weekend. I'm scared, but desperate after years of drinking and knowing I can't abstain, each year I just get worse, I know I can't get better, or at least I can't see it, it's been more than 10years now. I've just sent £449 to a Joanna from Sinclair. The trust pilot review look good. But I have to wait 5-7 days for them to contact me. Worried but desperate... Anyone had success?

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Hotdiggity766 · 29/10/2024 21:20

Done loads of research last night, couldn't sleep due to excitement I think 00-04am reading up on it all, hopefully not the same tonight. Spoke to the lady who runs it who rang me and feeling hopeful for a change for the future. This is not abstenense but maybe a life where I can be like a normal person? Am I being unrealistic? Not sure? Don't want to get my hopes up too much incase it doesn't work out like I think. I am going to keep writing here I think so I can share my journey with others and maybe help them in the future.

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haje · 29/10/2024 21:36

I hope it goes well for you OP. It's not a method I have knowledge of but like you say reviews look positive and lots of research papers.

I wish you well.

mindutopia · 30/10/2024 13:38

It’s not how I quit and I don’t personally know any people who have, but there is a scientific basis to it, so if you can afford it, it’s well worth a shot.

What I would say is don’t see it as a route to moderation. I think some people hope that a pill will mean they can ‘drink normally’. It doesn’t work like that. And honestly, alcohol is shit anyway and doesn’t add anything to your life. I wouldn’t be trying to keep it around with pharmaceutical means, even if some of the harm associated with it was reduced.

What I would also add is to make sure you take care of the social and emotional aspects of quitting drinking too. It’s not just popping a pill and it will go away. You need to, once you get over the hump if stopping, heal yourself and your life. You need to add in new wonderful things that take the place of drinking. And you need a sober community around you. That could be through AA, but there are so many other communities out there. You need people like you to cheer you on. You can’t do it home alone in isolation. So do give attention to those aspects of yourself too.

Think of it as putting tools in your toolbox. You can’t just have one tool and expect to be able to hang a picture and fix a leaky pipe and mend a broken window. Life is never going to stop throwing shit at you. You need lots of different tools for getting through it without alcohol. There isn’t one that is going to work all the time so you build up your toolbox so you’re always prepared.

EastCoastDamsel · 30/10/2024 17:07

Well said @mindutopia

Hotdiggity766 · 02/11/2024 15:39

mindutopia · 30/10/2024 13:38

It’s not how I quit and I don’t personally know any people who have, but there is a scientific basis to it, so if you can afford it, it’s well worth a shot.

What I would say is don’t see it as a route to moderation. I think some people hope that a pill will mean they can ‘drink normally’. It doesn’t work like that. And honestly, alcohol is shit anyway and doesn’t add anything to your life. I wouldn’t be trying to keep it around with pharmaceutical means, even if some of the harm associated with it was reduced.

What I would also add is to make sure you take care of the social and emotional aspects of quitting drinking too. It’s not just popping a pill and it will go away. You need to, once you get over the hump if stopping, heal yourself and your life. You need to add in new wonderful things that take the place of drinking. And you need a sober community around you. That could be through AA, but there are so many other communities out there. You need people like you to cheer you on. You can’t do it home alone in isolation. So do give attention to those aspects of yourself too.

Think of it as putting tools in your toolbox. You can’t just have one tool and expect to be able to hang a picture and fix a leaky pipe and mend a broken window. Life is never going to stop throwing shit at you. You need lots of different tools for getting through it without alcohol. There isn’t one that is going to work all the time so you build up your toolbox so you’re always prepared.

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Thank you for your detailed reply. I agree it is expensive, and I haven't taken this route lightly, I don't know what else to do. Just relying on quitting is not working and I need a little support in this way I think might help in addition to counselling.
I agree I'm fed up of alcohol, I hate it. I want rid, it's caused me nothing but trouble and I know it gives me nothing, I know, I've read so much quit lit so why can't I do it? This pill may reset my desires and help to wean me off.
I agree thank you, I do need a sober community, although strangely enough almost everyone in my life now is sober/only drink on occasions, it would be good to know people who are going through the same as me as I do feel like I have no one to talk to about it that understands. I keep wanting to write a journal to many keep it for future or to help others in the future, maybe I'll log it here, hard to know where to start and what to write about, apart from how hungover and awful I feel everyday I guess!

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Hotdiggity766 · 02/11/2024 15:40

Oh and I've heard from them and was meant to be signed up to a doctor but it's nearly been a week now so a bit frustrating as I just want to get started, they say they're busy and said I'd hopefully here within 24hrs, that was Thursday, so I guess it will be next week now

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123mom · 12/11/2024 21:59

I just wanted to check in on your experience as I've just signed up with them and also feeling somewhat uncomfortable about the payment process etc.

Hotdiggity766 · 16/11/2024 19:53

123mom · 12/11/2024 21:59

I just wanted to check in on your experience as I've just signed up with them and also feeling somewhat uncomfortable about the payment process etc.

Hi, it took a bit of time but think they are just busy, early days but I had a phone appointment with a doctor and my tablets have been delivered, I'm amazed at how well it is working to be honest! Be good to hear how your journey is going aswell, good luck! Bit disappointed from the TSM as not heard from them again so feel a bit robbed but she did say it would be a contact every 2-3 weeks, I was kind of relying on this therapy if that's what it is to support me, I don't want to chase and force them to talk to me so feel a bit awkward about that at the moment, but still early days, I may be contacted after I've been taking the tablets for a week or more, I'm on day 5 currently

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Viavita · 16/11/2024 20:08

Thanks @Hotdiggity766 for this thread. I have heard of this method before but you've reminded me of it.
I've just googled and completed an online form. They did state they are very busy due to recent media exposure.
Wishing you all the best and well done on Day 5 ❤️

123mom · 17/11/2024 08:47

I also received my tablets so thankfully the process was all legitimate. Probably too soon for me to also comment but happy to report back in time.

Hotdiggity766 · 17/11/2024 13:52

123mom · 17/11/2024 08:47

I also received my tablets so thankfully the process was all legitimate. Probably too soon for me to also comment but happy to report back in time.

Good to hear from you, and yes please keep me updated, heard mixed reviews on it working for people, it's worked well apart from one day for me so far Friday, but it was a stressful day and so I suppose was good for me to recognise the issue to help for future but I probably need more tips on how to cope with that situation in the future. Still on that day I drank alot less than usual so must be working. I am so hopeful and so happy at the moment, feel so relieved after all this time that this will work! Can see this will be a lifelong journey and that I will need to always take it, but I am ok with that, as long as I always carry a tablet just incase I think I will be ok

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Hotdiggity766 · 17/11/2024 13:53

123mom · 17/11/2024 08:47

I also received my tablets so thankfully the process was all legitimate. Probably too soon for me to also comment but happy to report back in time.

Good luck to you, I was so nervous taking the first tablet. I took half the first day had no effect but on taking full tablet day 2 that was it i noticed the difference straight away. I hope it hits you both straight away. Please do let me know how you are doing with it. I have not told anyone IRL but I feel this is such a big change in my life it is nice to talk to people about it

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Hotdiggity766 · 08/12/2024 16:09

Viavita · 16/11/2024 20:08

Thanks @Hotdiggity766 for this thread. I have heard of this method before but you've reminded me of it.
I've just googled and completed an online form. They did state they are very busy due to recent media exposure.
Wishing you all the best and well done on Day 5 ❤️

@123mom @Viavita How are you getting on? It was working great for me but now I'm not so sure for the past week.

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123mom · 08/12/2024 16:26

It's been about a month now since I started and my drinking has halved and I'm having more AF days. On the days where I take a pill I'm probably not drinking more than 2 or 3 drinks. Reading the book they suggest to understand the science behind it has been helpful. I'm really happy with the progress so far.

Hotdiggity766 · 26/02/2025 16:49

123mom · 08/12/2024 16:26

It's been about a month now since I started and my drinking has halved and I'm having more AF days. On the days where I take a pill I'm probably not drinking more than 2 or 3 drinks. Reading the book they suggest to understand the science behind it has been helpful. I'm really happy with the progress so far.

@123mom @Viavita How are you getting on?
For me it seems to be working ok, I've been 100percent compliant and really stuck to that side of things. I think it's stopped me going over board on occasion but I'm 4months in now and am kind of disappointed with the results, I feel like I need a group support network to help as it would be good to hear some success stories and more ongoing tips as I don't feel I've had much support from TSM, but I'm well aware that could just be an excuse from me as I always seem to have a reason I can't do it I guess. It's so bloudy hard. I'm hoping coming into the summer and having more things to occupy myself with will bring a positive change, but is holding out for something else to change going to work, is this just a delay tactic from myself? Do I really want this? Do I need therapy to help me? I thought I was going to get that type of support on signing up but Ive had a 5min phone call and a tips email on reaching out for support, feel like a burden. Anyone else experiencing similar or different? All reviews were positive but if I wrote one it wouldn't be

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LavenderHaze2004 · 25/03/2025 20:10

Hi there. I’m buying the Sinclair Method tablets on Thursday. I’ve tried everything going and I feel like these may be the answer. How are you all doing on them? I only (binge) drink at the weekend and I’m praying these will stop me from drinking to excess.

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123mom · 26/03/2025 06:53

Hi there, I'd recommend joining the facebook group as there's lots of tips and motivational stories. You'll find a copy of the book there so you can understand the science behind it as you'll realise why none of the other methods work. What I will say is it's not a linear path and it does take some time to adjust - you'll have weeks where you think you've cracked it and then you'll have a weeks where it appear things have returned to normal but they key thing is not to beat yourself up about it . I've been taking it for four months now and I can happily say that I can go some week's alcohol free without thinking about it (I was also a binge weekend drinker) and when I do drink I'm more mindful about it. I think the key thing is to notice the small wins over time and make sure you take the pill an hour to 90 minutes before hand. Good Luck.

LavenderHaze2004 · 26/03/2025 22:36

Thank you @123mom

I will certainly stick with it! I’m going to invest in it this weekend. I was hoping to get it from my Gp but I don’t think the NHS provide it. So, I’ve figured it’s a one off payment of £460 then £100 every 28 script is that right? xx

Member780473 · 28/03/2025 08:09

Hi
I'm using Naltrexone, but TSM was too expensive for me, instead I was referred by my GP to HAGA (every council have got something similar) https://www.haga.co.uk/
where you get a keyworker, support groups, health check, liver scan and prescription if you decide that medication is what you want. You only get 2 weeks prescription to start to make sure of no side effects and then bloodtest to make sure the meds hasn't affected your liver.

Naltrexone is working for me and has been a life saver, gone from 1 bottle of wine a night to 1 bottle a week 🥰, but it also takes willpower and group support.

123mom · 28/03/2025 13:14

No problem. Yes that’s how much I pay. The way Im looking at it is the amount of money I spend on alcohol each week is reducing and also the regularity of taking the NAL so while it’s an initial pricey initial consultation fee it’s worth it in the long term.

Hotdiggity766 · 28/03/2025 21:39

Thanks for the reply. I come with good news, since 6th march I've not drank apart from a small blip of 4 units one day. This is really a miracle for me! I think I got to my wits end i and I guess maybe naltrexone was working and the combination of no buzz and getting sick of the hangovers actually has convinced me to try again and this is the longest I've gone in years. It even helps to know that you have to wait the hour after taking the pill to drink so I think that sometimes gives you an hour to realise you don't need to drink. I've also joined a community group online as I think this is maybe what I have been missing. It's good to know your not the only one. Sending everyone trying to quit best wishes.

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LavenderHaze2004 · 28/03/2025 22:39

Amazing thank you guys 🥰 I’ve found Dr Jane Merron from Merron Medical Limited and she charges £200 all in for 168 tablets, then it’s £85 for the 28 day tablets. Had my blood test this morning for my liver. Fingers crossed it’s normal and I can get started shortly. As I only drink at weekends they should last me a while. All I’m reading are good things about naltrexone so I’m hoping I’ve found my cure ☺️☺️

LavenderHaze2004 · 23/04/2025 15:25

Update! Got my prescription, starting on Friday. Will keep you all posted. How’s everyone else getting on? I’m pinning all my hopes on this. Defo need to stop binge drinking. 8/10 I can moderate then that binge happens and my life is messed up again xx

LavenderHaze2004 · 26/04/2025 22:12

Hey there

I started naltrexone last night. Anyone any reviews of their own to share?

I took 25mg with food then pouted a glass of wine, sipped it throughout the evening before chucking 1/4 in sink! It bloody works! Tonight I had 12mg and again, same story. Never have I ever done that before.

However I have felt tearful all day. Whether that’s the boatload of shit I’m going through with my husband already and the fact I’ve driven my son back to uni and I’m missing him AND my daughters going through a nightmare health scare and I’m supporting her from the end of the phone? All contributory factors to my low mood i guess, so I’m going to try it again next weekend and hopeful my mood isn’t affected. Think I only need 12mg though as it is pretty strong!

💛🌸🤍

Hotdiggity766 · 01/05/2025 23:22

LavenderHaze2004 · 26/04/2025 22:12

Hey there

I started naltrexone last night. Anyone any reviews of their own to share?

I took 25mg with food then pouted a glass of wine, sipped it throughout the evening before chucking 1/4 in sink! It bloody works! Tonight I had 12mg and again, same story. Never have I ever done that before.

However I have felt tearful all day. Whether that’s the boatload of shit I’m going through with my husband already and the fact I’ve driven my son back to uni and I’m missing him AND my daughters going through a nightmare health scare and I’m supporting her from the end of the phone? All contributory factors to my low mood i guess, so I’m going to try it again next weekend and hopeful my mood isn’t affected. Think I only need 12mg though as it is pretty strong!

💛🌸🤍

Keep going every time you drink. I'm 50 days in now of no alcohol and no pill after approx 5months of taking naltrexone and feeling a bit deflated after the Frist few weeks but I stuck with it as I believed in all the science, this is the longest i've stuck to in years. With regards to your mood, don't forget alcohol really effects this, I am so surprised of all the things that I'm starting to be able to see more clearly, I can cope with situations better, im calmer, less anxious, all things I thought were just me and I used alcohol to cope with, actually managing quitting alcohol has shown me how good it is without, hope that can help you. I was quite teary first few weeks, it's overwhelming all your emotions are coming back to you but stick with it, remember why you are doing this and you will start to see the benefits.

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