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Struggling with adopted child

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JLO1911 · 19/08/2025 19:48

Just after some advice please -

Myself and my husband had a boy 7 years ago and initially husband wanted another child quite shortly after so the age gap was small. We tried and failed to conceive for nearly 2 years after son was born and both agreed to go down the adoption route. To cut a long story short, we ended up adopting a gorgeous little girl who was 2 at the time and our son was 4.

Everything was amazing during the introductions and even more so when she moved in with us. She has been with us for nearly 3 years now and we are slowly noticing her behaviour changing. I do not believe it is ‘terrible threes’ or ‘terrible fours’ as some family members and friends have suggested - I truly believe she has undiagnosed ADHD as birth mother and father both have been diagnosed as well as autism in the family, she was born at a very low birth weight due to substance misuse throughout the pregnancy.

We are really struggling now as she tends to target our son, who is the total opposite and to be quite honest, I am starting to feel sorry for him. He cannot sit down without her jumping on him, spitting on him, nipping, biting etc. She also destroys his toys and special things such as Lego builds and special gemstones and coins. She breaks his toys and throws his stuff in the bin and just tonight she has taken his glass of lemonade from him and spat in it and found it hilarious. She loses her temper fairly easy and tends to squeeze people or things, including our dogs. She grabs our dogs’ fur and pulls their tails despite being told 100 times a day that’s unacceptable. We teach her right from wrong and she does understand what she’s doing is wrong however when being told off just smirks and laughs at us. We have tried taking toys away, she just goes and takes her brothers stuff. We have tried the naughty chair, she starts climbing all over it and singing and making noises. She cannot focus on anything or follow simple instructions and often forgets what she’s been asked to do within seconds. For example if she has her shoes on the wrong feet, we say ‘oh, swap them over’ she will take them off then put them on the same feet again, or if being asked to go get her shoes on she will leave the room and come back with a toy instead, forgetting about being asked to put her shoes on. She tends to latch onto people as well, no concept of personal space and constantly interrupts people when they’re having a conversation. She will climb all over people despite being asked not to and often goes through people’s belongings despite being told no.

Anyway, I do plan on having her assessed for ADHD but my main reason for the post was just some advice on how to deal with this behaviour in the meantime as nothing we are doing currently is working. It has gotten to the point where family members aren’t willing to support with childminding due to a few incidents of her hurting their dogs and telling quite significant lies about things (for example at my parents house she shouted ‘stop making me kick the dogs!’ When there were no dogs in the room with her. Also she was told NOT to pick a small dog up because he is quite old and within minutes she had picked him up and thrown him on top of a cage and his legs got stuck in the gaps, which again she found hilarious).
Please, no judgement just advice!

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Early3Rise · 19/08/2025 19:59

This sounds so hard.

I'd agree she sounds to have additional needs.

My 1.5 year old knows not to pull or squeeze the dog, so a girl her age still doing it is a concern.

It saddens me that you don't refer to her as your daughter, as if you still see her as an outsider. I really hope this isn't reflective of how you see her fitting into your family. Hopefully just an oversight while posting.

What does she love to do?

Could you keep her engaged with activities, and burn off more of her energy in clubs?
Is she calmer after swimming or a long bike ride?

And at home- Divide and conquer, so you have 1 child and DH has the other- do some activity (bake, lego, crafting, puzzles, whatever) and then swap? This way your DS can play more peacefully, if even for an hour a day.

When DH not home, maybe set them up at stations , so they each have their own 'space' during their activity.

Mine have never been that interested in stickers or rewards charts, but will do chores / moan less if I dangle the carrot of a specific toy or activity they'd really like to have/do.

It sounds really trying, you've got my sympathy OP

Threadreplier · 19/08/2025 20:06

Oh my goodness, this sounds terrible. You sound like lovely parents though. I don't have much advice who has some behaviour (like the shoes thing) that sounds similar. At this young age, things are always changing, but is your child about to transition to something new like school? This makes my autistic child's behaviour 10x worse.

If your child is under 5, contact health visitor. Reach out to GP, you almost certainly need a cahms referral with your daughter's history and family history although lots might think it's neutodiversity (including me mentioning), it coukd be her working through whatever experiences she had pre-adoption. But honestly, it sounds like she's in a loving, amazing family. Please keep asking/shouting for help and support whether it's adoption charities, gp/ hv/ cahms/school senco, friends and family. Maybe if they can't take your daughter, have your son be with others occasionally so your daughter has your undivided attention and your don has some rest.

Not sure if any if this helps. The way your post is written, you sound like you're pretty sensible and have probably tried these things.

TeenToTwenties · 19/08/2025 20:09

Too tired to write more, but are you aware there us an Adoption board under Becoming a Parent?
Have you tried Post Adoption Support?

SweatyAugust · 19/08/2025 20:10

If she is adopted do you have social service involvement and support. The local mum I know who adopted had therapy play sessions and lots of other help.

Autumn1990 · 19/08/2025 20:17

You need get a diagnosis although that often doesn’t come with any extra support. I have one ND child and one NT child.
The easiest way to mange is to try and avoid situations, with the dog for example.
I think it is quite normal with siblings for younger ones to pester older ones. So allow him to set up his toys on the kitchen table or in his room and that area is out of bounds to her and you have to constantly firmly reinforce it.
my youngest is a great one for tall tales atm and she’s NT so I think it’s probably a phase. Some children do find it harder to dress themselves (my youngest again) is there any global development delay?
An odd day at a holiday club helps.
It’s hard and exhausting but it does get easier and you do learn the techniques that work for your child.
I would start with the GP and school for help

JLO1911 · 19/08/2025 20:20

Sorry I’m new to this so not sure if I’m replying correctly.

Must be the way I have posted as she is definitely not treat any different by us or any family members at all, it has been that way from the day we met her. She is loved dearly by everyone :)

They both go to swimming lessons, which they love but as they are both ‘beginners’ they are in the same group and class. I try to do activities separate with them but it’s hard as my husband works away and I am on my own with them majority of the time so they can’t be separated in that sense. Our son has just been doing a summer holiday camp so I had time with just myself and our daughter and we had a lovely time doing things like play doh, colouring in, play parks etc. She is like a different child when her and our son are separated. I am always out and about doing things like play parks, soft plays, farms, walking, beach days etc. I for one don’t like to be stuck in the house haha. And when I’m at work they are at school. (That’s another thing, nearly every day of school I am pulled for her behaviour - the latest being that she put hand soap in a girls hair in the toilets, hitting and nipping other children, pushing children over etc) I am assuming the school would pick up on any signs of additional needs however she’s only been in nursery for a year so due to start reception.

I have tried her with different activity groups but because she finds it hard to concentrate and follow instructions she loses interest or spends half of the class following instructors round asking them questions like what colour is their car or what they’re having for tea rather than what they’ve asked her to do. She has just tried kickboxing which I thought would be great to burn energy and learn ‘discipline’ as such, but again she spent most of the class distracting the other children and told me she didn’t want to go back. Swimming seems to be the only thing she’s still into currently! And never seems to get tired, the energy is constant - which I don’t mind the high energy level however the energy turns into winding her brother or the dogs up. She just tends to get bored, very quickly and very easily.

Sorry I just need to vent :(

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Beamur · 19/08/2025 20:24

Vent away.
You have a complicated life and a child with complex needs and behavioural challenges.
Good suggestion to post on the adoption board. I don't think your situation is that unusual, hopefully you will get some advice and empathy from people who understand your situation.

MysteriousFalafel · 19/08/2025 20:25

I think you would benefit from some adoption-specific advice OP as children who have had a rough start to life can often present with very challenging behaviours which need a different approach. She may also have some ND in the mix as well.

For my nephew, who has ADHD which presents very differently to my DS (also with ADHD) this behaviour where he’s needling at people is strongly linked to dopamine seeking behaviours. Any attention, good or bad, rewards their brains. If you have a look at techniques to manage this that might be a starter but it’s not particularly easy as it’s a HUGE amount of
patience and redirection and rewarding the nice behaviours. You also might have to dig really deep and love bomb her for a bit to give her a reset. But ultimately, I think you support from someone who has worked with adopted children with additional needs and support from post adoption services.

anonymoususer9876 · 19/08/2025 20:27

Is she at school yet? Or has she attended nursery/preschool? Did she exhibit similar behaviour there?

If you suspect ADHD, then there is lots of advice out there - what have you tried that is particularly tailored towards neurodivergent children? (Eg positive praise only. Always supervised so she can’t hurt the dogs or your son. Not the naughty chair - that’s not recommended these days.)

Also trauma can present similar to ADHD so that’s worth getting the post adoption support and therapy for her (and possibly yourselves too). Also flag with your DS’s teacher so they are aware and can put support in place for him as a young carer.

peafritterandcurrysauce · 19/08/2025 20:27

Hi. You talk about substance abuse. Did this include alcohol? Have you considered FASD? I hope that you are in receipt of post adoption support.

JLO1911 · 19/08/2025 20:29

So also, once the adoption had gone through and everything was official we were essentially signed off. During the adoption process we did meet with her paediatrician who ran us through some issues we may face in the future but at that point she was fairly certain everything was going perfect in regards to development and progress. Which it was, these issues have only came about in the past year and just seem to be getting more severe. I do wonder if I could still try to contact the paediatrician that we met - whether our daughter would still be on her caseload due to the adoption being nearly 3 years ago or whether a whole new referral would have to be made?
When she started nursery, the school teacher who is liaison for social services contacted me to introduce herself as she noticed that our daughter was previously looked after and she seemed really helpful. She told me that they would monitor for any signs of additional needs and put referrals in place if needed and that I could organise meetings at any point with herself. I do plan on doing this once they go back to school however it’s still the holidays.

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Rainallnight · 19/08/2025 20:31

Definitely post this again on the adoption board to get more knowledgeable advice.

Are you in touch with post adoption support? You should contact them asap and ask for a discussion about her needs and how they can help. You’re entitled to some funding under the Adoption and Special Guardianship Support Fund, but this is under threat for next year so get in there now.

Muffinmam · 19/08/2025 20:33

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peafritterandcurrysauce · 19/08/2025 20:34

Could you contact the agency who approved you for adoption about post adoption support. I thought this was part of the package for all adopters.

PatheticDistraction · 19/08/2025 20:35

This may mot be relevant- but my DS has ASD & ADHD (but is non verbal). Much of his behaviour is similar & where possible, we try not to react at all - if he spits for example, I stand up, take his hand (without looking at him or saying anything) and remove him from the room. Obviously if he hurts someone/something a bigger reaction might be needed. But he seems to feed off reactions & see it as a game. He gives not one hoot being told off.

Any good behaviour and we heap on praise & attention. It's not a perfect solution, but has helped.

JLO1911 · 19/08/2025 20:36

peafritterandcurrysauce · 19/08/2025 20:27

Hi. You talk about substance abuse. Did this include alcohol? Have you considered FASD? I hope that you are in receipt of post adoption support.

Yes both alcohol and drug use throughout pregnancy although Coc*ine use was much more prominent. Professionals were not concerned about FASD though and she doesn’t show any physical signs of this either. Post adoption support doesn’t seem to be fairly common where we are and I sadly feel as though we were ‘signed off and forgotten about’.

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peafritterandcurrysauce · 19/08/2025 20:36

And yes either post again or ask for this to be moved to the adoption board. There is a wealth of knowledge and understanding there.

TeenToTwenties · 19/08/2025 20:37

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She is also their child.

I would ask PAS. There could be trauma & attachment issues going on. PAS really stepped up for me when mine was 16 and couldn't return to school in the pandemic. 4 years later they are still helping.

TeenToTwenties · 19/08/2025 20:38

Do you know about the Adoption Support Fund? (If you are in England).

anonymoususer9876 · 19/08/2025 20:39

Just seen you posted that she exhibits similar behaviour in a different setting (nursery). When she goes to school, book an appt with the SENDCO and explain you suspect possible ADHD and ask what support they can give her in school. Find out if there are any local support groups for parents so you can talk to others in real life who understand where you’re coming from.

JLO1911 · 19/08/2025 20:41

anonymoususer9876 · 19/08/2025 20:27

Is she at school yet? Or has she attended nursery/preschool? Did she exhibit similar behaviour there?

If you suspect ADHD, then there is lots of advice out there - what have you tried that is particularly tailored towards neurodivergent children? (Eg positive praise only. Always supervised so she can’t hurt the dogs or your son. Not the naughty chair - that’s not recommended these days.)

Also trauma can present similar to ADHD so that’s worth getting the post adoption support and therapy for her (and possibly yourselves too). Also flag with your DS’s teacher so they are aware and can put support in place for him as a young carer.

Yes, she has attended nursery for the past year and I have been called in more or less every day for her behaviour towards other children. Most recently she had covered another girls hair in hand soap in the toilets, pushing people off chairs, hitting and kicking etc. We have tried therapeutic parenting and completed other courses on skills that have been implemented since she has lived with us.

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peafritterandcurrysauce · 19/08/2025 20:41

Sadly many professionals who should know better dismiss fasd because they say there are no physical features. Can I recommend the website National organisation for FASD. For very clear and helpful information.

Seahorsesplendour · 19/08/2025 20:46

@JLO1911 Please ask for this to be moved to the adoption board there are really experienced adopters there who will happily share their wisdom and who walk a similar path.

we have a 7 year old adopted son and have very similar challenges. It’s often very challenging to unpick the effects of trauma vs more traditional diagnoses.

We’ve recently accessed the adoption support fund through post adoption support and he’s had a full assessment of need which has really helped explain some of his behaviour and the reasons behind it and suggested next steps for him.

traditional Methods of behaviour management are not helpful for children who have been through trauma as you are seeing.

We were also able to access therapeutic parenting training and are now having DDP both of which have been helpful.

you will get very skewed advice from a lot of people not informed about adoption - your daughter and you need support from people who understand.

sending hugs, it’s tough

Hiiufjn · 19/08/2025 20:48

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What the actual hell

Hiiufjn · 19/08/2025 20:52

Request referral for post adoption support, but also to a paediatrician. It may not be ADHD, it may be attachment and trauma related plus the impact of low birth weight and parental substance use during pregnancy.
You will need support with parenting as normal approaches won't work. Pursue this with post adoption support or if that is lacking then push for that from children's social care.

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