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Moosehat · 08/09/2019 17:09

I'm hoping for some advice and guidance. I have an 8 year old (nearly 9) adopted son who was placed with us six years ago. He is a wonderful boy who is often genuinely lovely, but he has some very significant issues. He suffers from Attachment difficulties and problems with Sensory Integration. There are also strong indicators that he suffered sexual abuse whilst living with his birth family and was certainly witness to domestic abuse.

Over time, all of this has translated into some pretty shocking anti social behaviours by DS which are getting very hard to control. These include an obsession with weapons, an inability to regulate his emotions and sexualised behaviours both at home and at school. Due to his obsession with weapons, we have to keep any dangerous items locked away as he has threatened to stab me / cause harm to himself on many occasions. He has also brought knives into school and on one occasion he threatened our neighbours child with a screwdriver. We also have to look at innocuous items and assess their capacity to be turned into weapons. For example, pencils, paperclips and pencil sharpeners also need to be locked away as he will use pencils to stab, he will unravel paperclips into a sharp piece of wire and he will remove the blade from a sharpener. We cannot keep photos in a glass frame, as he will smash the glass to obtain a lethal shard. The list of things that DS can make dangerous is endless, and frankly we can't keep on top of it. He needs significant therapeutic interventions to overcome his issues and if he doesn't receive the help he needs soon, it is a foregone conclusion that he will cause genuine and significant harm to another human being. This is more than a likelihood. I would say it is a certainty.

His sexualised behaviours have also escalated. His school have created a report containing a long list of sexualised behaviours he has been displaying there for nearly a year and these behaviours include exposing himself and touching others genitals (both pupils and staff), but recently those behaviours have gained traction at home as well. Pretty much every day I have to stop my son from either trying to touch my private parts, or trying to force my hand down to touch his. I can now only have a shower when my son is not around or when my husband is available to guard the bathroom door, otherwise my son will unlock the door from the outside and barge in. When going to the toilet, I have to keep my foot against the door to stop him trying to come in. He needs help with this as well to prevent him posing a sexual threat to others as he gets older.

There is more. Almost every day since he was placed with us six years ago, he has physically attacked us. This wasn't much of a problem when he was three, but he is now bigger and these days it hurts when he attacks us. Now, after six years of domestic abuse and with the problems escalating, we are getting dangerously close to breaking point and our capacity to remain calm in the face of this abuse is rapidly deteriorating. Both mine and DH's stress levels are in the clinical range.

However, we have not just sat back and watched this unfold. Two years ago, we got an psychological assessment done via the Adoption Support Fund (ASF). However, the assessment wasn't done properly as the LA instructed the psychologist to do the assessment in half the usual time to reduce costs. However, we did get a report with some recommendations for therapy. Following that assessment, I then wanted to progress with therapy using a company called Family Futures, but the LA refused to refer us to Family Futures on the basis that they would be too expensive. So we found an alternative practice who could provide therapy within the ASF limits, and we progressed therapy with them. However, it did not go well. The alternative practice did provide us with some excellent training in parenting techniques that have proven extremely helpful in containing our sons behaviour at home, but the actual therapy was a disaster. The therapist was not fully qualified in the therapy DS requires and was frankly out of her depth in dealing with his very complex issues. In short, the therapy was doing more harm than good, so after a year we terminated therapy with that practice. This did not go down well with our LA.

We have since had another psychological assessment done for our son, and this time the assessment was done by Family Futures and was done properly. However, their recommendations for therapy cost far in excess of the Adoption Support Fund fair access limits. The costs are estimated at around £30k for the total therapeutic package (i.e. not £30k per annum, but £30k in total). So we are now in a position where we need the local authority to match fund the surplus £25,000 with the Adoption Support Fund. However, our local authority have taken the position that they will not match fund under any circumstances. I had hoped that we might be able to suggest a three way funding partnership, whereby the match funding could be split 3 ways with us, the LA and the ASF, but it turns out that the ASF will absolutely not match fund with adoptive parents, only with LA's. This is an insane position to take and it puts us in a terrible position, because we absolutely cannot afford to pay the full £25k suplus for therapy. However, we would have been able to rustle up £8,500 if the therapy costs could've been split 3 ways.

I don't know what to do here. Without this therapy my son will not improve, and given that he is fast approaching adolescence there is a very good chance that his issues will in fact get worse. It will not be long before he presents a genuine risk to others, and I can clearly see a situation whereby in a couple of years time, we will reach our breaking point and will call Social Services asking them to remove DS from our home. It will then cost the LA £50k per year to keep him in care until he is 16. Yet here we are asking for a one off payment of around £12k (if the match funding is done entirely by the LA) to prevent that from happening, yet they are taking the position that for financial reasons they will not match fund under any circumstances. I have considered offering to split the LA match fund on a 50:50 basis, so that the ASF pay £12K of the surplus and the other £12k is split between us and the LA, but I don't know if that will be possible or whether they'd consider it if it was. I am stunned by how immoral the LA funding position is. I am also stunned by how inflexible the ASF access to funding is.

I'm sorry to send such a long post, but I have tried calling the Adoption Support Fund and our original Adoption Agency, but no one has been able to offer any helpful suggestions. I can literally see our family crumbling away before my eyes and I'm terribly frightened for my sons future. If DS doesn't access appropriate therapy soon, then all I can see on the horizon is a life in prison for DS.

Family Futures have told me that there are many LA's who take the same position as ours with regard to match funding, and that many LA's do hold to that position. They have also told me that for many of the families they work with, theirs has been the first family that their LA have broken this rule for. Does anyone out there know how this has been done? Can anyone give me some advice on how to progress?

I'm really sorry for making such a long post, but I'm desperate to get my son the help that he needs before he does harm to himself or another person. I'm literally trying to save my family here.

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Snazzygoldfish · 08/09/2019 17:17

I'm so sorry, I don't have any advice but just wanted to say that I am full of admiration for you and hope you get the help for your son that he needs and deserves xxx

Snazzygoldfish · 08/09/2019 17:18

Just thought, could you get your mp involved?

Moosehat · 08/09/2019 17:42

HI Snazzyfish

Thanks for your input and kind comments. Smile

I haven't contacted our MP. We did that a couple of years ago when my son's previous school and the LA were colluding together to unlawfully exclude him from school and deny him access to an education (we have written evidence that this was being done, but that's another story). Our MP was very sympathetic and all, but didn't actually do anything and refused to get involved.

I suppose we could give him another chance to do something concrete in this new situation, and frankly I'd give anything a go. But based on our previous experience, I'm not holding my breath that our MP will get involved. But given that our story represents a willful misuse of LA funds, then perhaps he would be interested? Ultimately we are being denied funding for therapy because of budget constraints, but the alternative (i.e. DS is taken into care) would cost the LA at least 16x more. Complete insanity Shock

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Ted27 · 08/09/2019 17:54

what a mess and so shortsighted of the LA.

Personally I would go for a multi pronged approach.

I would call the Adoption UK helpline, and get some legal advice about whether the LA is is fact meeting its statutory duties with regard to your son.
Write to the chief executive of the LA, the director of children's services and the councillor responsible for children's services, copied to your local councillor and MP. Tell them you are seeking legal advice and will have no hesitation in pursuing legal action. You could also mention that you will be making a complaint to Ofsted and the Children's Commisioner.
The LA will be relying on you not knowing your legal rights.
I have had to take a similar path to get action in relation to the son's brother. They won't want a legal case of awkward questions from Ofsted and the Children's Commissioner.
Surely the issue here is safeguarding - you are at risk now, I'm surprised that the school havent made a safeguarding referral.
Good luck, it sounds like an horrendous situation to be in. Look after yourself

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 17:58

@Moosehat I am so very sorry. This sounds intolerable for you all.

you have done your best and you are still waiting for others to play there part, how awful. You truly are stuck in a terrible situation.

Thanks I am going to send you some thoughts. I am an adopter and a birth mum to a dd with many issues (autism, depression, anxiety etc and we are currently hiding knives and medications etc so I know a tiny bit of what you are experiencing (but not all of it), and I am not an expert on anything!)

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 18:02

I would get locks fitted on all doors that your son cannot get into so you can shower and go to the loo in peace.

I would speak to your MP. I know you had a bad experience before but I would perhaps say his/her failure to get involved could be seen as having some sort of impact/lack of impact! So now was the time to do something or be labeled as useless (use nicer words).

Don't piss anyone off but I might be tempted to say something like 'might it look bad when it comes out I came to you for help twice now and you have failed me.... Ask Ted if she thinks this tactic will work, I tend to be nasty!

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 18:03

Like Ted I would find a charity to help you. I would join Adopt UK www.adoptionuk.org/ and then get advice from them.

And any other adoption charity.

Advice on how to proceed.

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 18:07

I would seriously consider telling the local authority that if they do not provide the assistance the adoption will break down (as you have said here that it will, in your opinion, break down at some point).

I am afraid I would possibly look into suing the placing authority for negligence with a view to using that money to help your son.

This may be very, very bad advice so get some other advice before taking any of my advice!

As I say, I'm an adopter who adopted a boy about your son' age at about the time you did and I cannot imagine how you have coped.

So far you have coped and in extremely adverse conditions you have identified a source of help.

The organisation who placed this child with you have now refused to provide the help needed to
a) to enable this child, who was formerly in their care, to flourish
b) potentially stop him hurting or sexually assaulting someone/a child
c) enable you and your husband a chance to parent this child successfully

On behalf of the child, you both as parents and any potential victims of abuse at the hands of your son, your placing authority appear to be negligent.

In the current climate (of blame) I am not sure that placing authorities can just wash their hands (effectively) of children like this.

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 18:11

OK, lastly, at 10 he will be criminally responsible for any actions and so it is imperative that the authority act now. I really think you need to start talking in worst case scenarios and making urgent appointments once your local MP knows the situation and is either on board or not on board. If local MP is not on board I would think it is even more imperative to go higher.

Do the other parents at the school know what a risk your son is?

Once the word gets out it is likely the school will find a way to not have him at school and you may end up home schooling, before something so terrible happens you need big guns in your corner.

I'd contact Kemi Badenoch MP, she may be able to help.

www.gov.uk/government/ministers/parliamentary-under-secretary-of-state-children-and-young-families

"Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (Minister for Children and Families)
The minister’s responsibilities include:

children’s social care including child protection, children in care, adoption, care leavers, social work, local authority performance and family law"

I'd also contact Edward Timpson and ask for an urgent meeting with him.

"Edward Timpson was appointed Chair of the Child Safeguarding Practice Review Panel in June 2018."

If this is not a safeguarding issue I am not sure what is.

A bit of history on Edward...

www.gov.uk/government/people/edward-timpson

www.adoptionmatters.org/2015/03/09/hello-world-3/

Lastly, my adoption has been relatively straight forward and I would really advise you do not take my advice until you check it all out!

But I do tend to think, go big or go home.

I think you need to face the reality that your son is going to end up back in care, in prison, or worse, unless someone does something and so you need that to happen now.

I am so sorry for you.

And you need the appropriate services to know how desperate you and your husband are. Get you husband writing to MPs etc as well, our school didn't listen to me about DD's dyslexia but listen to my dh!!!! Annoying but in the end I got him to email and explain 'my wife has tried and...' Then they acted. It's shit but your dh needs to be front and centre (I know how shit and sexist this is!)

Please, as I believe you are, face the reality that your son may not be able to live with you into adulthood. And let that thought make you angry to fight even more for him.

I am so sorry to write this and really hope I have not offended you.

Thanks
Ted27 · 08/09/2019 18:12

To be honest, I think most MPs are too busy with Brexit right now, and usually there is little they can actually do except making a nuisance of themselves and ask awkward questions.

However, I do think its worth copying them in because at this point its about piling pressure on to the LA. Its wasting time now to carry on talking to the same people, you have to go to the top. I've been fighting for a year now and only started to get somewhere when I cut out the the people in the middle and went to the top and threatened with Ofsted etc.
A good local councillor is actuallt more effective because they are more likely to perch themselves in the relevant office until they get answers. When I worked in local govt many years ago we used to dread certain councillors dropping in for a 'chat'

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 18:16

Ted what do you think about Kemi Badenoch MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (Minister for Children and Families)?

Ted27 · 08/09/2019 18:25

@italiangreyhound , at risk if outing myself I work in the Dept for Education. If you write to a minister, its gets farmed out to a minion like me ( not me because I don't work in this bit of the dept) who will spout policy, how much money is being ploughed into ASF etc etc, they also cannot interfere with the decisions of a local authority.
Having said that, its always worth letting the LA know that you know who these people are.
I think the best hope is banking on the LA wanting to avoid legal action
so - so challenge them legally, are they meeeting statutory duty, and as you say threaten to sue the pants off them for negligence.

Ted27 · 08/09/2019 18:32

It might be worth asking Family Futures if, without breaking confidentiality of other adopters, what they did to get their LA to fund. They could possibly put you in direct contact - worth a shot

Moosehat · 08/09/2019 18:54

Many, many thanks to you all for taking the time to offer your comments and suggestions.

There are some very useful suggestions that I hadn't considered. Unfortunately, I don't think that suing the placing authority is an option. DS wasn't placed with us by our LA. We adopted through an agency, and DS was placed from another LA who were very transparent with us about DS's history. Many of his issues only came to light as he grew older and there was no indication at the time of placement that those issues were present.

However, I will be telling our LA that if DS doesn't receive therapy soon, then it is inevitable that the adoption will break down. I will also point out the costs that the LA will incur when that happens vs the amount of money we are asking for now. I will also state that if DS doesn't get the help he needs, then it is a forgone conclusion that he will cause significant harm to another person and I want it on record that I have warned the LA of this eventuality. I'm not sure how far that will get me, but it needs to be on record that I've forewarned the LA.

But I like some of the suggestions offered by Ted about various people I could write to, so thanks for those suggestions Smile. I've already joined Adoption UK and actually made a post about this issue on their forum. It didn't get any replies Sad. But now that I've joined, I will definitely give them a call for some advice about the LA obligations to DS.

With regard to the schools response to DS behaviours, they did make a safeguarding referral to the MASH team back in March. Ironically though, the MASH team closed the case because the LA were pursuing an assessment of needs with Family Futures. They weren't to know that the LA would then refuse to fund the therapy recommended.

I'm hugely appreciative of the advice you have given me. It's definitely provided some food for though and some avenues to pursue. As has been said, safeguarding is the key here. So also is the risk of adoption breakdown and the massively increased costs of that compared to the cost of therapy.

I'll keep you posted with my progress. It might take a while though as I've found that anything involving the LA takes 5x longer than you would reasonably expect!

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Ted27 · 08/09/2019 19:13

Please don't rule out legal action, it should be against whoever is refusing the funding - they now have the responsibilty, not the placing authority.
But get the proper legal advice - I'm just coming from a place where I know that families are not getting what the need without pursuing legal options.
I know a number of families with children with additional needs who have had to take legal action to get the LA to meet their statutory obligations.
What the LA needs to know now is that YOU know your rights, YOU know their statutory obligations and just how far you are prepared to go to force them. It would be better if you didnt have to take them to court. Its like one massive game of chicken - who will blink first.
I have also not been above some level of blackmail.
Thr school have a report of very serious behaviours which place other children at risk. This is as serious a safeguarding issue as it gets.
You could ask the LA some very searching questions about the consequences of an incident in school. I wander what the reaction of another parent would be if your son not only sexually assaulted their child, but they knew the LA could have prevented it by funding treatment. If I was such a parent I would be suing the LA for negligence. They are esentially putting not only you at risk but a whole school. The local press would have a field day.
I have threatened a lot in the last few months, fortunately for me and the child involved, the LA appears to have blinked first.

Mummyshark2018 · 08/09/2019 19:44

Hi op,
It sounds like a really difficult situation and you have already tried lots of avenues.
Does your child have an EHCP? Are his behaviours as extreme in school as they are out of school? If he had an EHCP this May give you an easier route to appeal legally against the LA as a plan includes educating, health and social care.

Another thought, can whoever wrote your dc's therapy recommendations reduce the timeframe for therapy (thus cost) and present that to the adoption agency and LA to fund (and then you fund the last bit)?

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 21:07

Agree with Ted "Please don't rule out legal action, it should be against whoever is refusing the funding - they now have the responsibility, not the placing authority."

When i said 'placing authority' I meant whoever is responsible now and, of course, that may be (and is) different.

This is not a placement failure it is an ongoing support failure.

sassygromit · 08/09/2019 21:12

What you have described is absolutely disgusting on their part. Your ds clearly needs urgent help and has done for years.

I have looked at Beacon House's website (beaconhouse.org.uk/) before and they sound really good, they are a group of clinical psychologists specialising in trauma and adoption related issues, very savvy about appropriate therapies, work closely with psychiatrists, and last time I looked I am fairly sure that they said they were very experienced about liaising with LAs re ASF funding and seemed confident about getting it. I would call the practice manager - I had a brief conversation with her a while back and she seemed very knowledgeable, and say you will send her the info you include in your OP (as it is very clear) in an email so that she has it all set out.

Also another referral back to MASH again including all the info in your OP in writing? What is the school saying about all of this?

sassygromit · 08/09/2019 21:20

Also, though I hope Beacon House will be able to help, possibly by providing something more palatable to the LA or something else, what does your GP say?

Italiangreyhound · 08/09/2019 21:22

"Ironically though, the MASH team closed the case because the LA were pursuing an assessment of needs with Family Futures."

Can you alert the MASH team of the situation now?

Thanks
Hels20 · 09/09/2019 07:22

I read this last night and it actually made me weep. People who aren’t in this situation or have a brush with someone who is just have know idea. We have had a difficult adoption and I don’t know if we are going to come out the other end. I know I have hope we will and are accessing lots of things

I am terrified for you and the state of the country - it is appalling that the funding isn’t there.

Please don’t take this the wrong way but my only suggestion is: () have you spoken to sossen! and seen if they can help? (2) does your son have an EHCp (I assume he does) and is there anything in there you can force and (3) have you considered crowdfunding? I know people that would give something for this because you are absolutely right - let’s try and fix it now before the adoption breaks down and the cost to society is 100 x more.

So so so so sorry.

Hels20 · 09/09/2019 07:23

Ps Have you called Coram?

Hels20 · 09/09/2019 07:24

PPS - have you tried contacting Stuart a guest who is an adopter and also a headmaster and has lots of ideas and has come in contact with lots of adopters? He might know when the LA bent the rules. I have his email if you want to PM me.

Ted27 · 09/09/2019 13:00

Just for information Kemi Badenoch has just gone on mat leave. The new minister is Michelle Donelan MP for Chippenham

rose69 · 10/09/2019 15:01

I would contact the Cabinet Member for Children's services (details will be on website), copying in ward councillors, chief executive and director of children's services. Look up their correspondence times (probably 2 weeks) and add that to the letter. You could state that if you don't get an response in this time you will go through the complaints procedure and then the ombudsman.
Could you also get the school to support you in this action or make a fresh referral.
I'm sorry to read about what you are going through.