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The news of the mother who subjectd her children to fight

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vixma · 20/04/2007 22:11

Reuters - Friday, April 20LONDON (Reuters) - A mother who forced her two-year-old son and three year-old daughter to fight each other as she and three other women filmed them was spared jail on Friday.

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Room Type: Single Twin Double Family rooms The women laughed and swore as they encouraged the tearful children to punch and kick each other during the home video.

The boy, crying and wearing just a nappy and T-shirt, was goaded into punching his sister after she hit him and was called a "wimp" and "faggot".

"It was extremely upsetting footage," prosecutor David Gittins told BBC News 24 outside Plymouth Crown Court. "It showed that the conduct of these defendants, all four of them, was totally and utterly unacceptable.

"The children were so distressed and time and time again were ... pushed back into the ring to keep fighting each other when they clearly didn't want to."

Police said the footage had "sickened and saddened" everyone working on the case. The children's father discovered the tape by chance.

In a statement, their family said: "The gravity of these events has placed an enormous strain on our family, who had no idea that these women were capable of acts of such wanton cruelty."

Police said the children are well and staying with relatives.

The four women, all members of the same Plymouth family, were given one-year suspended sentences for child cruelty offences. They left court without comment

Anyone else sickend by this?

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FluffyMummy123 · 20/04/2007 22:33

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vixma · 20/04/2007 22:33

I cannot believe these women who are family members where not given prison. Heart breaking and disgusting, if these where men would there be a different sentence?

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Chocolateface · 20/04/2007 22:33

There were 4 women in the room and not one of them seemed to think anything was wrong!?!

expatinscotland · 20/04/2007 22:34

Why is this in 'adoptions'?

LilyLoo · 20/04/2007 22:34

Why are these threads shite Cod? Surely we can have an opinion ?

skibump · 20/04/2007 22:34

Cod, why are you on this thread, you clearly don't want to read what people are likely to write? If you have an insight then make it

VeniVidiVickiQV · 20/04/2007 22:34

Oh this story really upset me when it was first reported.

What upsets me more is that things like this probably happen every single day, somewhere in this country.

Ditto Icod on the hysteria.

polarmonkey · 20/04/2007 22:34

You're right, criminal law is not my area of expertise, but what happened is immoral. That you think otherwise is your business

Chocolateface · 20/04/2007 22:34

What could the maximum scentence have been?

FluffyMummy123 · 20/04/2007 22:35

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 20/04/2007 22:35

ACtually she does have an insight.....

ceolas · 20/04/2007 22:35

I think it is anger on behalf of the children that makes us feel they should be locked up.

FluffyMummy123 · 20/04/2007 22:36

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skibump · 20/04/2007 22:36

I'd like to hear it rather than just critising everyone else

ceolas · 20/04/2007 22:36

Not an opinion of the law per se but of the hideous behaviour

vixma · 20/04/2007 22:37

Sorry, I have just joined mumsnet and did not mean to offend people who are discussing adoption. I have a prob getting theads to add new. I thought this was an important discussion and a scary topic....it had to be discussed as it is unbeliebable and shocking, sorry if I intruded.

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skibump · 20/04/2007 22:37

Wouldn't some kind of parenting order be more to the point than prison anyway?

FluffyMummy123 · 20/04/2007 22:37

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FluffyMummy123 · 20/04/2007 22:38

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polarmonkey · 20/04/2007 22:38

I think sentencing in such a case is determined by the judge.

gemmiegoatlegs · 20/04/2007 22:38

And at the end of the day, what does it matter to YOU what my opinion is.

No, I am not an expert, but then again that's why I wasn't handing out the sentence. If I was they would be banged up post haste.

ceolas · 20/04/2007 22:38

why they had kids in the first place I cannot fathom

FluffyMummy123 · 20/04/2007 22:39

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vixma · 20/04/2007 22:39

I agree that newspapers blow things out of proportion, however it did go to court, why the sentence they recieved?

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