2024/25 New JNCHES

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Does anyone know why the pay negotiations are so quiet this year? No updates since mid May that I can see and no offer tabled?

We’ve been told it’s being implemented for Sept.

I found this on WonkHE which was interesting vis-à-vis the appetite for strikes.
wonkhe.com/wonk-corner/ucu-responds-to-the-2024-25-pay-offer/

I know someone who tried this and the university was very happy to let them go. A senior person told me a million pound grant is not considered a big deal nowadays, so threatening to take away one is no threat at all.

You're quite right. And I think the Unis often don't realise what happens when they let senior staff go, because the impacts are intangible and not immediately obvious. One then ends up with a slow decline into irrelevance.

I am under no illusion that a flounce would be met with anything other than indifference, no matter what my ego might like :D

yes this person was one of the UK's leading expert on something which has semi-immediate implications for our defence. I suspect he now works for a hedge fund from what he told me. But the uni really could not care less about what the research is, only how much money is involved.

Yup, my uni confirmed today we’re getting the £900 in our September pay and then the further amount in Spring 2025. So after all that, basically the original offer 😂

I’m not clear from the statements if the remainder in March is back-dated to August or just from March onwards? Can anyone more experienced here clarify?

Or is it down to the individual university and they can plead hardship and not backdate?

I think it’s no backdating.

Yes, my reading is that it isn’t backdated, which is why it’s so rubbish.
institutions can plead poverty and give neither uplift, as far as I can tell.

The March payment is definitely not backdated. I worked out my actual percentage pay rise today, rather than the misleading headline figure of2.5%, and it’s 1.98%. 🙁

Someone has done the maths.

Seems so.

Just wondering, is it a lump sum of £900 or is it £900 added to our yearly salary?

Wish they were more clear about it all…

I'm still waiting for our institution to say anything about it.

Same, there doesn’t seem to be anything extra in my payslip.

My university has just announced this afternoon that the pay offer is now to be implemented

£900 added to your salary, is my understanding

Thanks, that’s a bit more depressing 😂 I was hoping for a little boost at least!

Me too (might have already spent it 🙄)

Me too 😭

Oh, I also thought it was a lump sum originally. £75 a month before tax is not too helpful!

Yes - pay slip shows a £60 boost. Get me to a champagne bar!

We're not getting it until the October payroll so keep the champagne on ice for me. 😂

It might be me being really thick but I don't understand what we're getting in March either. Are we all getting £2.5k overall, so £900 nowish, and then £1.6k uplift to salary from March? So the £75 now and then another £133 per month from March?

I’m afraid it’s nowhere near that amount @EverybodyWantsTo this link to the University of Manchester lays it out https://www.staffnet.manchester.ac.uk/news/display/?id=31763

So those on spine point 22 & below will get £900 now and an extra £300 in March. Those on spine points 23-37 will get the £900 plus £250 and everyone else just gets the £900.

Oh gosh that really is shit! I think I'd seen somewhere that it was a minimum of £2.5k but might have imagined that then.

Oh I think the flat rate of £2.5k is what the unions asked for not what we got!

We're getting nothing till November and even then it's entirely contingent on the finances at that time (that is the number of students who turn up this academic year)