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Genuinely confused, what is the 'correct' term for someone with dark skin- black or coloured?

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ilikeyoursleeves · 07/06/2010 22:14

This is a genuine question as I really don't know what is 'PC' regards this. I was describing someone today and called them 'black' and someone said 'You can't say that, it's 'coloured''. To which I said that I was being in no way racist or whatever, it was just a description so they knew who I was talking about!

I am mixed race myself, and descibe myself as mixed race, and I am not racist in any way at all, although I do hate people describing me as 'different'

So just wondering what term I should be using and if we use the 'wrong' term does that insinuate that we are racist in some way? I hope not!

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hester · 07/06/2010 22:16

I haven't heard the term 'coloured' used for many years.

CarGirl · 07/06/2010 22:16

I really don't know "afro-caribean heritage" also how far back to you go. I got asked if MIL was tango'd I had to explain no it's her mixed race back ground!

ChuckBartowski · 07/06/2010 22:17

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Collision · 07/06/2010 22:17

Am sure that it is black.

HurleySatOnMe · 07/06/2010 22:18

I worked with a fabulous woman who told me that she would tell anyone who asked that the correct term was 'African'. She took great offense at being called black or coloured. But I suppose, like so many things, that is a personal opinion.

scurryfunge · 07/06/2010 22:20

Afro Caribbean can be offensive - should be African Caribbean. Mixed Race is also a dated term,as is coloured. Dual heritage is a phrase I've heard lately too.
Black is preferred.

ilikeyoursleeves · 07/06/2010 22:22

It is very personal I suppose hurley as I absolutely hate it when somone calls me 'Chinese looking' as I was born and brought up here and have no connection at all with China (I have no idea where I am from as I am adopted).

So I would never call myself 'half Chinese, half British' but equally feel weird saying I'm white. Hence I say mixed race. I don't fit in any of those boxes on forms re ethnicity!

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thisisyesterday · 07/06/2010 22:22

surely it's only african if they're from africa though?

thisisyesterday · 07/06/2010 22:22

surely it's only african if they're from africa though?

ilikeyoursleeves · 07/06/2010 22:24

Dual heritage? That's a new one...

So it sounds like there is no 'proper' term, just whatever the person likes.

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AvadaKedavra · 07/06/2010 22:24

Black as far as I know, coloured appears to be frowned upon, but not entirely sure why? - (unless you are my DD when she was 3 who liked to call black people chocolate people) [cringe]

scurryfunge · 07/06/2010 22:25

African Caribbean describes black Caribbean as opposed to Hispanic Caribbeans or white Caribbeans.

CarGirl · 07/06/2010 22:26

I was a bit about mixed race because doesn't it refer to anyone who isn't wholly one particular "race" such as mediterranean, asian, arabic etc

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Booboobedoo · 07/06/2010 22:26

I live in the Brixton area, and everyone I know round here says Black and White.

It's massively multi-cultural here, and they're just visual references.

I think eyebrows would be raised if anyone said 'coloured'.

ilikeyoursleeves · 07/06/2010 22:29

Yes I thought that 'coloured' wasnt used, it was my idiot BIL who said that so I was a bit .

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toccatanfudge · 07/06/2010 22:31

my children are coloured (they're definitely not black - well I'm their mother and I'm white as they come and actually I'd be quite p*ssed off if someone insisted they were black...........my exH and his family are black, my children are not), however I refer to other mixed race people as, ermm mixed race..........unless they're from Southern Africa in which case I'll use coloured or goffal (the latter depending on how well I know them

I'd never even heard of dual heritage until I came on MN

AvadaKedavra · 07/06/2010 22:35

So why is coloured considered so offensive these days then?

scurryfunge · 07/06/2010 22:36

The term coloured is offensive because it suggests that a description is required for anyone non -white, ie suggesting that white is the norm and anyone else is "coloured". It is outdated but I think the Americans use the term "people of colour" and is equally offensive.

DuelingFanjo · 07/06/2010 22:38

Coloured is a horrible term. My work mate uses 'half caste' which is even worse.

I think Black is fine as an identifier.

2plus2more · 07/06/2010 22:38

I have a good friend who is South African and spent a month with him and a whole group of other folk doing charity work in Namibia. He told us quite clearly that in Southern Africa at least there are 3 distinct groups - Black, White & Coloured. Black and Coloured are different and he says that locals could tell by the hair - something to do with the way it curled or something! Apparently Blacks would be very offended to be referred to as Coloured and vice versa! I would always use Coloured personally as it covers everything - although my husband (and therefore kids) are mixed-race and that's exactly how I refer to them if I have to. (mind you I focus more on the half-english, half-norn irish angle than where my FIL was born!)

toccatanfudge · 07/06/2010 22:39

except Scurry if you're from Southern African where it is the accepter term for people of mixed race

It wouldn't even cross my mind to call a black person coloured, but I do have to stop myself short when meeting mixed race people to ensure that I don't use the "wrong" term for them.

MumInBeds · 07/06/2010 22:40

As far as I know it is usually more acceptable to say black but I know it is common in America to describe someone as being 'of colour.'

scurryfunge · 07/06/2010 22:41

The South African definition is hardly going to be a good indicator!

edam · 07/06/2010 22:42

IIRC under Apartheid, the racist S African regime categorised people as white, coloured and black. Think that's where some of the objections to 'coloured' come from.

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