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do I move abroad??

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jen45 · 19/03/2010 19:01

I have been married for 4 rocky years.Met and married in Canada. Hubby wanted to come to uk so I did. Used all my savings. Now hubby is out of job and wants to move back. He knows my mum is sick but says he will go on his own if I dont??...Hubby has been selfish throughout and had a few online discreations. He is also greedy with money and refuses to spend his... only mine!!...My kids live here but my sister lives over there.
Flights are booked for end of this month but I am scared to put trust in him and if he finds someone else in Canada, I will have lost my house in the UK and have nothing. I love him but I dont like him. I guess Im scared to be on my own. Ihave gave up my job for the move. Do I take a chance that I will have a better life over there or play safe, e on my own and be lonely.??

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expatinscotland · 19/03/2010 23:09

Why feel bad?

He's an arse.

jen45 · 19/03/2010 23:13

guess Im just a softie sometimes...
dont like being mean even when someone is mean to me..always regret being like them.
i think i will wait until the night before to tell him just in case he trys to kidnap my dogs LOL.....wouldnt put that past him...
and i like my dogs better then him...

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expatinscotland · 19/03/2010 23:16

Oh, in that case I'd wait until he was actually stepping into the taxi.

Seriously I would.

Or I'd just change the locks (I'm assuming you're the tenant on the house and he's not on it).

I'd change the locks and throw all his shit out on the pavement the next time he goes out.

If he's still on FLR(M), if he rang the police I'd ask them to inform UKBA that the marriage is broken down, so he'd need to leave anyway.

expatinscotland · 19/03/2010 23:18

I'm in Scotland. I could come over and help you load all his gear into bin bags.

jen45 · 19/03/2010 23:22

hes joint tenant but wont matter when hes in Canada. Its not like he wont go...i will play him at his own game and let him think im still going and then the night before or early on the day i will just say...oh by the way, after all the years of crap ive had to put up from you, well guess what, no more...im done and have a nice life cause I will....without you!!
that will piss him off no end...he might have a cardiac cause he wont believe i wont go...he thinks i cant live without him or wont....OMG he will be a right ass on the plane..pity the person next to him...cause it wont be me LOL

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jen45 · 19/03/2010 23:24

to expatinscotland: no worries hes got a box to be shipped and his suitcase is packed..cant take anything else cause he didnt pay for anything LOL...

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expatinscotland · 19/03/2010 23:27

I'd wait till the day.

In case he gets violent.

And I'd make sure I had loads of people there on the pretext of sending me off.

When really it would be to tell him to get to fuck.

And I wouldn't worry who he sits next to on the plane.

I sat next to a bloke like this on a flight from Denver to London once.

He went on and on about his ex wife and what an alcoholic she was until I finally said to him, 'Did you ever think, that maybe she drank because she had to live with you? Because I'm about to neck a bottle of vodka just sitting next to you on this flight from hell.'

He got up and moved.

jen45 · 19/03/2010 23:31

OMG thats hilarious!! no he will probably be desperate to chat up someone to get back at me!!!....
cant see him getting violent..he will be too shocked....should get the camera out cause his face will be one picture...
if he starts his shit, then i will just inform him i will phone the immigration in toronto and he will get a glove up his arse!! that should shut him up and stop him in his tracks LOL

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expatinscotland · 19/03/2010 23:35

I honestly wouldn't bother telling him until the day of.

Just tell him you're too heartbroken to pack, that you're passing on the house to a mate/your kids/etc.

I can think of any number of useful lies if you want , because I love to screw over people who have it coming.

jen45 · 19/03/2010 23:44

yeh think i will leave it to the morning of
30th....just going to tell him im not going cause of all the shit hes put me through and hes not worth moving anywhere for.....he can be someone elses problem and good luck to her!! Im done and thats it....
hope the meal on the plane tastes good!!!

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jen45 · 19/03/2010 23:50

expatinscotland...just out of curiosity..where are you originally from???

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jen45 · 20/03/2010 22:18

Asked hubby today if he loved me...he said, well i was getting on a plane 3 times before and I came back...didnt I???? (3 times prev after we argued, he walked out and booked a flight..went to airport but didnt get on)
have to admit..it did make me think perhaps he might love me but in his sick twisted way...
OMH he is making it hard for me to end this and stay in scotland....
Hes been cuddling me all bloody day!!!
HELP!!!!

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expatinscotland · 20/03/2010 22:19

love is respect, jen.

not emotional blackmail.

jen45 · 20/03/2010 22:26

when do we know the difference???
im not being funny....its just hard when someone eventually gives you affection after a "talk" about why would I go with him etc...
dt does make sense that hes just trying to get his own way but he is making me doubt my thinking...god it was easier when he was being his usual prick self

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jen45 · 20/03/2010 22:31

Oh FXXXk hes now on the phone telling his dad in canada we cant wait to see him!!
laughing and smiling at me!!
oh good god..i feel evil now for doing what I want for a change.
Gave up house before to move to canada with hubby no1....went tits up, left homeless but got job and ended up buying house. met this prick who wanted to come to scotland and sold up and moved here. now he wants to move back...im sick and tired of doing what they want....
so why do i feel horrible for saying NO for once in my life??????

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expatinscotland · 20/03/2010 22:35

It's so obvious when they really do respect them it's like night and day to what you're with right now.

He's being sweet because you're doing what he wants.

If you really don't want to go, then don't.

It really is that simple.

jen45 · 20/03/2010 22:46

wish i had a crystal ball LOL
then i would know for sure that if i had went with him, he would just be the same.
I lived with him in canada before here and he was just the same prick over there...i thought when he wanted to live here, it would be a fresh start (after sis wedding) etc and then hes on sex sites and porn sites looking for women within 4 months of moving here!!....
its a shame that when he does give me a little affection, i actually believe he means it , how sad is that???

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jen45 · 20/03/2010 22:48

i so wish i could just dissappear off the face of the planet for 2 weeks to avoid all this stress and having to tell him im not going.....i feel awful because he still thinks im going.....
god im such a wimp

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LadyBiscuit · 20/03/2010 22:50

You really need to work on your self-esteem. You'd be better off being on your own rather than someone who is greedy, unfaithful and selfish. Do you really want to spend the rest of your days with someone like that? Aren't you worth more than that?

jen45 · 20/03/2010 22:55

i know I am....i am a good person and have tried everything for our marriage but he has put me in an impossible position wanting to move...he said he would lose the money on the tickets if he cancelled...although my mum is sick etc....he actually wanted to bring forward the date so he could piss off in case my poor mum got worse and he had to stay I guess...
Perhaps if I loved Canada then i might have went anyways but I didnt love it...felt like an alien on my own....he came along and I guess I looked on him as my lifelong partner and friend etc....he disappointed me so much. he says he made a silly mistake (porn, date sites etc) and i need to get past it...
he fails to recognise he has other horrible faults....too many actually

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jen45 · 20/03/2010 22:57

just want to say to everyone who answered my thread...you have been all so kind and you are all so right in what you are saying...i appreciate your time in replying and helping me.....thanks

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seashore · 20/03/2010 23:39

Hi jen45,
sorry I couldn't stick round yesterday (got a 8mth old baby boy, teething badly) but I just wanted to say to you, I really hope you listen to what everyone here has said, stay strong and get away from this guy.

It's going to be hard, he is going to put on nice displays on the run up to the 30th, but it's fake, fake, fake. Once you're in Canada, it'll be the same old story again. You sound like a really nice person and you deserve better. I did assume that you both were much younger, I think the advice an earlier post said about getting counselling is a really good idea. You need to break the pattern of falling into emotion blackmail and co dependancy etc.

You certainly sound fed up with following him from move to move. It must be so stressful, once you settle he's off again.

Just stay put, do it carefully, he seems to take you for granted and will probably be very surprised. Everyone has a limit, you have reached yours. I would keep it really simple, just say you can't leave you sick mum and repeat that over and over, don't get drawn into a fight over it.

You made a mistake marrying him but you can turn it around. Reclaim your life. Good luck, I really wish you the best.

By the way, I never answer the relationship threads, exactly because I would never want to say something as frank as I have here, but I really feel for you, don't pass yourself off out of fear that you are 45, you have your whole life ahead yet. This is just a bad mistake that you will get over given time.

expatinscotland · 21/03/2010 00:15

'he said he would lose the money on the tickets if he cancelled...although my mum is sick etc....he actually wanted to bring forward the date so he could piss off in case my poor mum got worse and he had to stay I guess...'

What he wants trumps everyone else, really, is what that means.

That's really vile.

You don't deserve this.

You deserve more.

puffling · 21/03/2010 00:26

Be prepared for his reaction when you say you're not going. He might say he's changed hos mind and delay his flight. I'd even leave it till you're at the airport. Have someone changing the locks on your house while you're there. Take other people with you to the airport on the pretext of a a send off then leave him at the check in desk.

claraquack · 21/03/2010 00:32

I have a friend in your situation - but she did move abroad with him and now her life is a hell of a lot harder because of it.

They met and married in country A, she had a son by him, he started to be abusive towards her - mostly emotionally as I understand it. She eventually kicked him out and got a restraining order against him but he wheedled his way back into her life, she got pregnant again and then they moved to country B, which is where she now lives.

The abuse against her has got worse and, appallingly, he is now starting to take it out on their 3-year-old son. She now realises that she has to get away. But he now controls all their finances, she can barely do anything without him knowing about it and she has a very, very small support network. To move back to country A with her two small children, little money and no job is going to be a massive effort for her.

If you go with him to Canada that could be you. It sounds like you have made up your mind not to go but I know too many people who change their minds, stay with him, give him one last chance. Just don't.

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