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When does the "Cost of living crisis end"

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topcat2014 · 16/10/2026 08:21

There will always be inflation. The media created this thing called a cost of living crisis.

Recessions have a technical definition, so therefore a technical end.

What is going to be the trigger for society agreeing the cost of living crisis is over?

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kiakoa · 16/10/2026 17:20

But what are you basing this on? entitlement isn’t owned by one age group.

we cannot have people not contributing to society yet expecting it all

What does this mean? In the 70s/80s almost 30% of households were in social housing. It’s approx 7% today…

MyKhakiBalonz · 16/10/2026 17:52

we cannot have people not contributing to society yet expecting it all

which is a lot of pensioners

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:00

MyKhakiBalonz · 16/10/2026 17:52

we cannot have people not contributing to society yet expecting it all

which is a lot of pensioners

true

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ExtraHotDoubleShot · 16/10/2026 18:01

MyKhakiBalonz · 16/10/2026 17:52

we cannot have people not contributing to society yet expecting it all

which is a lot of pensioners

Pensioners can’t work - they’re ageing and many are infirm. The ‘anxious but healthy’ 25 year olds however

ExtraHotDoubleShot · 16/10/2026 18:02

RosaNovella · 16/10/2026 17:15

Its where the attitude starts
Entitlement, why should I work?

Everything on a plate, not contributing to society
4 years from age 18 on benefits, smoking weed and gaming then how do they get out of that?
They dont
Who wants a 22 year old with zero experience and a poor attitude?
We cannot have people not contributing to society yet expecting it all

Edited

Agree
Treating their parents like shit who in return call it ‘low demand’
‘Sensory diets’ of takeaways
Whole thing is a joke

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 16/10/2026 18:12

On pensioners - it's ridiculous that pension credit essentially makes up all your missed NI contributions and unlocks even more free money / benefits. No consequences for a lifetime of irresponsibility.

DiscoRice · 16/10/2026 18:13

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 16/10/2026 18:12

On pensioners - it's ridiculous that pension credit essentially makes up all your missed NI contributions and unlocks even more free money / benefits. No consequences for a lifetime of irresponsibility.

Yes, really irresponsible to be disabled or a carer. So feckless.

SerendipityJane · 16/10/2026 18:18

What is going to be the trigger for society agreeing the cost of living crisis is over?

The price pf bread in the markets ?

RosaNovella · 16/10/2026 18:32

MyKhakiBalonz · 16/10/2026 17:52

we cannot have people not contributing to society yet expecting it all

which is a lot of pensioners

So working for 40 plus years is " not contributing"
DFO!

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:32

DiscoRice · 16/10/2026 18:13

Yes, really irresponsible to be disabled or a carer. So feckless.

Why do you think all people on pension credit are disabled?

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:34

RosaNovella · 16/10/2026 18:32

So working for 40 plus years is " not contributing"
DFO!

@RosaNovellanot every pensioner has worked for 40 years, why on earth would you think that?

And even for the ones who have worked it doesn’t mean they have paid in anywhere near enough vs what they take out.

It’s delusional to whinge about the cost of welfare but exclude pensioners from that conversation.

RosaNovella · 16/10/2026 18:38

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:34

@RosaNovellanot every pensioner has worked for 40 years, why on earth would you think that?

And even for the ones who have worked it doesn’t mean they have paid in anywhere near enough vs what they take out.

It’s delusional to whinge about the cost of welfare but exclude pensioners from that conversation.

I dont know any pensioner who hasnt!
There wasnt a choice, work or starve
We didnt have all these ridiculous made up ailments either, you just got on with it

Now we are begrudging people a retirement
The worlds gone mad!

DiscoRice · 16/10/2026 18:43

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:32

Why do you think all people on pension credit are disabled?

Why are people assuming that anyone on pension credit was irresponsible before retirement age?

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:44

So who were the 30% living in social housing in the 70s/80s?

Who bought the council houses at a massive discount?

Who received child benefit/family allowance before it was means tested?

work or starve

This is nonsense unless you are going back much further.

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:44

DiscoRice · 16/10/2026 18:43

Why are people assuming that anyone on pension credit was irresponsible before retirement age?

Why are people assuming they were all responsible?

You are the one saying that they are all disabled or carers, can you link to some evidence for that?

mumumental · 16/10/2026 18:46

RaggedRocks · 16/10/2026 12:32

So, more tax on those who work and more benefits for those who don't?

Ah yes, because of course I must have been suggesting that alternative 🙄

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:48

Pointing out ageing demographics and the fact that it costs and that today’s pensioners are taking more out than they paid in isn’t begrudging retirement. It’s a fact and one you can’t ignore when you are moaning about the cost of welfare.

Badbadbunny · 16/10/2026 18:50

RosaNovella · 16/10/2026 16:49

Who is talking about "school age kids"
Im talking about 18 +
Adults

They've not had the same experience of work whilst at school, i.e. paper rounds, Saturday jobs, waitressing in cafes at weekends, etc., that older generations took for granted to get some experience in a workplace and earn some money for working.

Badbadbunny · 16/10/2026 18:51

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:44

So who were the 30% living in social housing in the 70s/80s?

Who bought the council houses at a massive discount?

Who received child benefit/family allowance before it was means tested?

work or starve

This is nonsense unless you are going back much further.

Not only buying council houses at massive discount, but also getting MIRAS income tax relief on mortgage interest.

Greater availability of cheap rents on council houses.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 16/10/2026 18:51

I don't know much about economics but I agree OP I hate the phrase and it's constant use. It's not a crisis it's a reality and certainly not the first time costs have risen. When the phrase was first used a few years ago, I think I recall bring advised to turn our homes down by a degree or two to reduce fuel bills. I had a colleague who had survived the war in Eastern Europe in her youth. She laughed and said, everyone has to put an extra layer on and you call that a crisis!! I know she oversimplified but she also made a fair point.

RosaNovella · 16/10/2026 18:51

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:48

Pointing out ageing demographics and the fact that it costs and that today’s pensioners are taking more out than they paid in isn’t begrudging retirement. It’s a fact and one you can’t ignore when you are moaning about the cost of welfare.

So what if its a fact?
They contributed to society , they didnt spend their lives sat on a bench smoking weed

Dontlletmedownbruce · 16/10/2026 18:57

Badbadbunny · 16/10/2026 16:44

It's not always that "they don't want to work". Lots of jobs typically done by school leavers (and school/uni aged students) have disappeared. Thanks, in part, to Reeves' stupid NIC hike, but also the sheer number of smaller businesses that collapsed during the covid lockdowns. There's also been the general trend for decades away from small businesses to big business. 30 years ago, kids could get Saturday jobs easily, i.e. in shops, guest houses, restaurants, etc., when they were "owner managed" but now most are big chains, they have employment procedures which tend not to be suitable for school aged kids, and of course, the ever increasing rules/regulations for kids working in kitchens, pubs, etc. When I was a 16 year old school leaver, I had loads of options for holiday/weekend jobs basically within sight of where I lived close to a High Street, i.e. newsagents, grocers, guest houses, cafes, etc - now someone living in that same house would be looking at a Travelodge (don't take on kids), a couple of bookies (don't take on kids), an opticians (not many kids are trained opticians or dispensers), and loads of derelict/empty shops!

Not to mention the trend of replacing humans with machines. The large dept store near me recently did this. Its where I hoped my teens could get work, where dh and his siblings all worked. Now it's a row of self service check outs with one person flitting between them all

DiscoRice · 16/10/2026 19:00

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 18:44

Why are people assuming they were all responsible?

You are the one saying that they are all disabled or carers, can you link to some evidence for that?

Edited

I didn't. But some are, yet still get tarred with the same brush.

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 19:09

RosaNovella · 16/10/2026 18:51

So what if its a fact?
They contributed to society , they didnt spend their lives sat on a bench smoking weed

You are the one complaining about the size of the welfare state so facts do matter. I’m not sure why you are confused 🤷🏻‍♀️

kiakoa · 16/10/2026 19:11

Badbadbunny · 16/10/2026 18:51

Not only buying council houses at massive discount, but also getting MIRAS income tax relief on mortgage interest.

Greater availability of cheap rents on council houses.

Starve or eat though apparently 🙄