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There's been outrage amongst many people claiming the BBC pay ethnic minorities more then white people

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cakeorwine · 10/10/2026 11:12

BBC report linked here

Pay gap report

And here's one of the tables that was used to justify the claim.

Telegraph report here. I've gifted it to you

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/bdb86271401b1980

So....what do you believe? Are the BBC paying ethnic minorities more?

Feel free to look at the links to make up your own mind.

I would be interested to know how confident you are in your belief and what do you think the main reason is for that level of confidence

The Telegraph thinks so

"The BBC pays white staff less on average than their ethnic minority colleagues in every pay band bar one, figures show.
Black, Asian, mixed and other ethnic minority employees received 13.2pc higher median pay than white workers in the corporation’s lowest pay band, and 5.3pc more in the highest pay band.
White employees’ median pay was higher – by 0.6pc – in just one out of seven pay scales. This is despite the BBC’s commitment to “fair, clear and competitive” pay."

I've also attached the top comments and a picture of The SImpsons for some reason......

The comments

"Imagine the outrage if it was the other way around 🙄"

"Yep, institutional racism is alive and well in the BBC!"

"This is racism pure and simple. I am appalled"

"Some animals are more equal than others"

"Of course it is. But like most things there are two tiers of legality in this country. There isnt a judge or tribunal anywhere that would convict in favour of white men."

"Two tier Britain is real. And it’s terrifying."

"Stop paying the Licence Fee.
Stop funding the enemy"

"I see it all the time. I love Escape To The Country but they always interview locals that are non British and it is obvious that they are making a point"

"So if you’re fat, trans, and black you’re on a winner"

"indeed all the white employees should take them to a tribunal ... where is their union when you actually need it?"

"The "Equality Act" is a misnomer. Being normal is not a protected characterstic."

There's been outrage amongst many people claiming the BBC pay ethnic minorities more then white people
There's been outrage amongst many people claiming the BBC pay ethnic minorities more then white people
There's been outrage amongst many people claiming the BBC pay ethnic minorities more then white people
There's been outrage amongst many people claiming the BBC pay ethnic minorities more then white people
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SummerFeverVenice · 16/10/2026 13:43

cakeorwine · 12/10/2026 17:28

They have the data already. It's what they used to prepare the report.

So they need to look at that and analyse it.

I'd do a bubble graph for each band showing the distribution of pay of white employees and ethnic minority employees.

That will show 2 things

The number of different employees - you'd just use 2 colours
The spread of data. You'd probably see the employees distributed randomly across the pay band

This is an example although clearly it's not pay

Imagine orange is female and blue is male

You can see there are far more females than males.

A lot of women earn $80m
The rest earn $65m
As for the men, most earn $40m
There's some poor men who earn $25m
And a similar amount who earn $50m

Clearly there's something going on here.
Are the men being discriminated against?
Are the women just better at their job?
Are they doing different jobs so the women just happen to be doing a role that pays more?

I work in data analysis. It's so easy to get all these variables so you can then dice and slice to see what's going on,

I'd collect
Name (but that should be anonymised and given a number so only HR knows who it is)
Gender (that's going to annoy people)
Sex (assigned at birth)
Age
Employed since
Time at that level
Pay level
Last pay rise
Bonuses
Manager
Last assessment
Last promotion
Competency grading
Department
Job Role
Ethnicity
Disabled
LGBT
Working Class background

Most of those things will already be available on the HR systems so you just link the 2 systems

Then you can ask
How do the departments compare in pay levels?
Do any departments seem to be under or over represented with particular groups?
In a department, are managers doing assessments and are they being fair with awarding pay rises and bonuses?

eg Does Bob in car sales only employ males and then just gives bonuses to his mates?

Is there any issues you can see in pay distribution?
Is anyone just coasting along without wanting promotion?
Is anyone being looked over? eg At the company for years but has only had a few pay rises?

Is Senior management top heavy with Straight white middle class males ?

That's what a good data analyst can do.
Make sure the data is collected well, there's no gaps in the data (many people refuse to say their sexuality or gender identification), clean the data up and then analyse it.

If you did the Seniior Leadership LGBT pay at the BBC, I bet you'd just see a few LGBT people in there and can identify their pay.

How it's presented is entirely up to the agenda of the company.

I didn't get a job as a school data manager because they asked me to analyse the SEN performance in a class and they only had 3 pupils, I said that's too small a sample size to draw any conclusions.

Simple numbers and simple averages don't tell you anything and can really deceive you. I hate using them

When I first started my role, we were surveying clients. The Senior Staff got very excited with an 80% satisfaction rating and were desperate to share it on social media. I had to tell them that it meant nothing as we only interviewed 20 people. I said we should wait till the end of the year to get enough people or do a rolling 12 month mean. What I did show them was the bubble graph so we could see we had a good amount of people who were very satisfied and about 20% who were extremely dissatisfied. We then looked at those people to see what we were doing poorly

I changed their attitude to data analysis

Ok every piece of data you asked for that is not already in the report is called investigating because you are not the HR of BBC. BBC already has the data, but an independent investigation means a 3rd party would have access to the data.

I agree with your plan of action wholly.

cakeorwine · 16/10/2026 14:35

SummerFeverVenice · 16/10/2026 13:43

Ok every piece of data you asked for that is not already in the report is called investigating because you are not the HR of BBC. BBC already has the data, but an independent investigation means a 3rd party would have access to the data.

I agree with your plan of action wholly.

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If an independent 3rd party was looking into it, then it would be an investigation

If I was the HR person, I would ask the data analyst to analyse the data and present their findings

That's not an investigation. That's a data analyst doing their job. That is in fact my job.

You would NOT need to validate data as the data engineer should already have ensured the data is clean. No missing data, recent, accurate, consistent etc

That's what a good data engineer does
The data analyst then takes the data and analyses it

I've looked at HR issues with data
We had a complaint from a member of staff that we discriminated against older employees. Our median age was 50. Mainly females

I've also had to use data to explain to people that we weren't discriminating against ethnic minorities.

They were concerned that there was a 10% ethnic minorities in our city so why weren't we seeing 10% ethnic minorities in our customers

In our client group, there was less than 1% ethnic minorites. Most of the ethnic minorities in our city were students.

I had to explain that countless times.

Along with 4/5 surveys saying we are great does not mean 80% satisfaction

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