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Can a new prime minister take office without a general election?

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AgentKim · 30/09/2026 17:11

Erm shouldn't we have a general election to vote in a new prime minister as no one voted for Andy Burnham to be in charge.
How is that allowed.
Im sure people voted for Labour because they wanted Kier Starmer to be prime minister. Where did Andy Burnham come from all of sudden.
Can anyone in the government in power be prime minister without a general election.

OP posts:
Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 21:09

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/09/2026 20:18

I never said anything about 100%. Given how poor functional literacy has been in the past, and how low the school leaving age used to be, and how little was expected of most children who didn't pass the 11+ or come from affluent families, I'm expressing scepticism about how well-informed they were. Some were undoubtedly very well-versed in politics, because they were active in the union movement, or found politics interesting, or came from a political family. Those people are in a minority now and I think they always were.

No I know you didn’t, but your opening gambit was rather expressing surprise at any type of civic literacy. Functional literacy is not the same as civic literacy though, you’re rather mixing them up in your response.

I do think in the past that many people were closer to the political decisions that shaped their lives - maybe that is because I am from mining stock and doesn’t just mean unionised. My relatives all knew their local representatives - because they would see them in the shop or the pub - and talk to them. Most people now could not name their local counsellor - I can. But that’s rare, right? Hence the disintegration I mentioned.

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 21:17

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 21:09

No I know you didn’t, but your opening gambit was rather expressing surprise at any type of civic literacy. Functional literacy is not the same as civic literacy though, you’re rather mixing them up in your response.

I do think in the past that many people were closer to the political decisions that shaped their lives - maybe that is because I am from mining stock and doesn’t just mean unionised. My relatives all knew their local representatives - because they would see them in the shop or the pub - and talk to them. Most people now could not name their local counsellor - I can. But that’s rare, right? Hence the disintegration I mentioned.

Most people now could not name their local counsellor - I can. I could name my local councillor.

pointythings · 30/09/2026 21:18

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 21:17

Most people now could not name their local counsellor - I can. I could name my local councillor.

I can too. He's a useless ex Tory opportunist Reform tosspot.

MellowSubmarine · 30/09/2026 21:30

AgentKim · 30/09/2026 17:18

Well for fuck sake the first one I voted for was Harold Wilson.
I was just asking a simple question and I dont need all these snide replies.

Part of the point people are making is that you didn’t vote for Wilson (unless you lived in his constituency).

Did you not notice how Brown, May, Johnson, Truss, & Sunak became PM?? It was in exactly the same way, without the need for a general election.

(I know there are also ones pre-Brown, I just don’t know them).

winterdarkness · 30/09/2026 21:32

Wow! This was one of the topics I had to study for the British Citizenship exam. I’m shocked that someone who has been born and bred in this country is not well versed in the way your parliamentary democracy works

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:08

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 21:17

Most people now could not name their local counsellor - I can. I could name my local councillor.

Great, so can I, most people can’t though.

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 22:20

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:08

Great, so can I, most people can’t though.

I couldn't name any counsellors local to me though.

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:24

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 22:20

I couldn't name any counsellors local to me though.

You just said you could. What?

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 22:27

I didn't. I said I could name my local councillor.

whippersnapper55 · 30/09/2026 22:32

Yes they can. The party members vote for their party leader. That's how it is and has always been 🤷‍♀️

LilyBunch25 · 30/09/2026 22:34

Oh good grief. Yes. Several times in recent years. Like it or not.

StarlightLady · 30/09/2026 22:35

AgentKim · 30/09/2026 17:18

Well for fuck sake the first one I voted for was Harold Wilson.
I was just asking a simple question and I dont need all these snide replies.

You asked a straight question and in response you were given 13 examples of when this has happened, including 4 in recent times.

Why are these considered snide replies?

The UK does not operate a US presidential type system.

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:36

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 22:27

I didn't. I said I could name my local councillor.

Oh spelling, you’re so smart! It’s not like auto correct exists. What a dumb point to make. Sorry you’re bored.

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:36

StarlightLady · 30/09/2026 22:35

You asked a straight question and in response you were given 13 examples of when this has happened, including 4 in recent times.

Why are these considered snide replies?

The UK does not operate a US presidential type system.

Some people were really disgusting to her, you can’t ignore that.

Oliveoy · 30/09/2026 22:37

I think on ballot papers there should be a short multiple choice quiz on our electoral system. If you get any wrong, your ballot goes in the bin.

PickAChew · 30/09/2026 22:41

AgentKim · 30/09/2026 17:18

Well for fuck sake the first one I voted for was Harold Wilson.
I was just asking a simple question and I dont need all these snide replies.

Was Harold Wilson your MP?

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 22:42

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:36

Oh spelling, you’re so smart! It’s not like auto correct exists. What a dumb point to make. Sorry you’re bored.

If you came across as pleasant in your posts, I wouldn't have commented.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 30/09/2026 22:43

Backedoffhackedoff · 30/09/2026 17:20

OP if you’re not a bot you must walk round with shit in your eyes. Do a quick google and it will explain

😂😂 it’s scary how many people don’t understand how we elect people to run the country.

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:52

Oliveoy · 30/09/2026 22:37

I think on ballot papers there should be a short multiple choice quiz on our electoral system. If you get any wrong, your ballot goes in the bin.

Illiterate people don’t get to vote? You should go in the bin.

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:56

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 22:42

If you came across as pleasant in your posts, I wouldn't have commented.

Edited

Enjoy your supercilious evening.

BleedinglyObvious · 30/09/2026 23:01

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:56

Enjoy your supercilious evening.

Talking to yourself?

AnonyMumAuDHD · 30/09/2026 23:19

AgentKim · 30/09/2026 17:11

Erm shouldn't we have a general election to vote in a new prime minister as no one voted for Andy Burnham to be in charge.
How is that allowed.
Im sure people voted for Labour because they wanted Kier Starmer to be prime minister. Where did Andy Burnham come from all of sudden.
Can anyone in the government in power be prime minister without a general election.

Well, obviously they can.

if the question you are asking is: SHOULD they? Then no. I actually think the constitution should be changed so that barring serious illness or death, then the leader of the majority party at the time of the election, and the manifesto that was presented at the time, should be binding. If a PM resigns or is ousted by their party, it should trigger a GE.

IMHO this would put paid to party political infighting and individuals jostling for personal power: there would be no point of all the shenanigans until the next GE was looming so they’d be forced to work together. Then we could look forward to some semblance of continuity.

Oliveoy · 30/09/2026 23:20

Arlanymor · 30/09/2026 22:52

Illiterate people don’t get to vote? You should go in the bin.

A McGonagle reader?

sherbetlemonade · 01/10/2026 08:32

SerendipityJane · 30/09/2026 18:11

To be fair to the OP. they didn't say they voted for Harold Wilson in a parliamentary election. It could have been in a poll for Womens Realm, or similar.

My bad. 😂

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 01/10/2026 08:47

winterdarkness · 30/09/2026 21:32

Wow! This was one of the topics I had to study for the British Citizenship exam. I’m shocked that someone who has been born and bred in this country is not well versed in the way your parliamentary democracy works

I've seen some of the questions from the British Citizenship exam. I am British. I've lived here my entire life. I am quite well educated. I couldn't get even close to 100% on that test! Kudos to the new citizens of the UK who managed to pass.

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