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Struggles with "gifted" 8 yo boy

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Veryoverwhelmedmummy · 29/09/2026 19:12

I'm not quite sure how to formulate my question. DS is wickedly clever but also so much work. We moved abroad when he was 4, DD was born shortly thereafter, and he then started reception. He was always an extremely happy baby and got on well with others at nursery in the UK. But when he started school here, he was bullied and his personality completely changed. He was frequently angry, withdrawn, had toileting accidents, etc. I Felt like I didn't know him anymore. Because of all of the behavioural changes and not doing well in school, we had him assessed (at 6 years) and it was determined he has a massive IQ (>140) and no signs of AdHD or ASD. The terminology they use here is "gifted" and he does tick many of those boxes (very clever, big emotions, sensitive to fairness and justice, wants to know rationale for everything.)

But he's just so much work. He is 8 next week and we can't seem to get on top of the toilet accidents. He's been seen by a paediatrician, physio, and a paediatric urologist. They started him on medication (First for constipation, later for overactive bladder) but it still happens, especailly when he is stressed or overwhelmed, or goes into his head and his mental world. I don't know how to help him anymore. As he gets older and I see the differences between him and DD, I wonder whether there is more going on with his development than just giftedness, but when we talk to professionasl they seem to think it's all within normal age bounds. But I ask myself when would we reconsider assessment? DH is much more patient with him and quite content to not pursue further testing (and I reckon he's right, if I look at the questionnaires I still can't tick enough boxes to get even close to a diganosis) but still he seems so, I don't know, quirky? And I wonder if as he grows older he will actually grow out of some of these things, or whether they will become more pronounced.

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Autumnandwintergardening · 30/09/2026 18:06

skyscrapersinging · 29/09/2026 19:30

All of this. Also agree. We had similar issues with our gifted DD, also moved country when she was aged 4. She was never easy, now aged 19 and at Cambridge, always A grades and never in “trouble” at school, but lots and lots of friendship issues. Seemingly it’s all better now she’s at uni, but my god it has been a slog to get us here in one piece with sanity intact. She was diagnosed very late with autism (only last year), same type of issue as you - not ticking enough boxes to seem “really” autistic. My advice would be to pursue a diagnosis if you have the energy and can afford the time/cost of waiting (either private or NHS, both difficult to get sorted). Good luck.

@skyscrapersinging

Same with mine. Autism diagnosis just after A levels it took years and the masking was so complete when out and about or at school. A huge bunch of these don’t ‘cause’ trouble so needs aren’t seen as a priority.

Ours is now year 2 and still struggling. University seem to think it is ok and they have a first for everything with seemingly ‘little effort’ but the effort is huge- the masking and fitting on. Ours did get a diagnosis of autism and then said ‘now what?’ And we didn’t have an answer.

mental and emotional wellbeing are huge areas for growth as is acceptance

deedee176 · 30/09/2026 18:11

How do you know he has a high IQ? Assume because you put him forward for a test? Why?

herewegoagainonwednesday · 30/09/2026 18:19

deedee176 · 30/09/2026 18:11

How do you know he has a high IQ? Assume because you put him forward for a test? Why?

IQ tests are a standard part if pretty much every SENds assessment .

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Abby323 · 30/09/2026 19:55

herewegoagainonwednesday · 30/09/2026 18:19

IQ tests are a standard part if pretty much every SENds assessment .

Maybe I’m wrong but thought OP said she hadn’t had a SEN assessment done yet? So why the IQ test (which parents put their children up for - nobody asks).
Reckon we have ourselves a pushy parent situation here.

yesicannoicant · 30/09/2026 19:58

"very clever, big emotions, sensitive to fairness and justice, wants to know rationale for everything."

A lot of these sound like on the spectrum, even though you say not!

Nocornflakes · 30/09/2026 20:28

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Arran2024 · 30/09/2026 22:30

Abby323 · 30/09/2026 19:55

Maybe I’m wrong but thought OP said she hadn’t had a SEN assessment done yet? So why the IQ test (which parents put their children up for - nobody asks).
Reckon we have ourselves a pushy parent situation here.

An IQ score is sometimes provided as part of an ed psych assessment. Parents often get this done as part of an ehc assessment - not in this case of course.

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