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School telling us to remove nut trees from community orchard

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Calling · 18/09/2026 19:15

We are in a local voluntary group and local people planted an orchard in the grounds of a school, for the school.

Now, the school has written to say that we have to remove the nut trees because one pupil has a bad nut allergy.

There are fruit and nut trees, that the local people planted some years ago and we have put a lot of work into weeding and watering. The yield was actually for the kids and we are volunteering with the school with and nature sessions outside.

Before anyone says we are potential child killers, we do understand the importance of safety. There is a management plan in place, but the school has been asked by a parent to remove our trees.
I do feel disheartened - nobody in the school said no to nut trees originally.

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myjamisbetterthanyours · 20/09/2026 18:26

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 18:20

Animals (squirrels, mice. some birds) can open the hard shells meaning there can be bits of nut lying around.

They can also bring them from far away.

Are we going to cut every single nut tree?

Or are we going to cull all squirrels, mice and birds, just to be on the safe side?

CaptainMyCaptain · 20/09/2026 18:27

amoobaa · 20/09/2026 16:53

Honestly, some of the responses to this are bonkers. Have you read your post back, whilst imagining standing in front of that poor mother?

Severe allergies aren’t a fad, a preference or the result of overprotective parenting. Anaphylaxis is a potentially life-threatening medical emergency. EpiPens are emergency treatment, they are not some magical forcefield that makes exposure irrelevant.

There’s an enormous difference between acknowledging that you cannot guarantee a completely nut-free environment and deliberately growing nuts inside it.

So because it’s one child, their parents should be told to “fuck off”?
Seriously? Who are you?

The measure of a decent community is surely how willing we are to make reasonable accommodations for people who are more vulnerable, even when they are a small minority. Looked in the mirror lately?

We wouldn’t ensure a school playground or access to the lovely orchard is wheelchair accessible because 51% of pupils use wheelchairs. We would do that because the child who DOES use a wheelchair has just as much right to access learning and be a part of school life and the school community as everyone else. How could you think differently? What happened to you?

Life isn’t fair. so why make it any more shitty than it needs to be? What motivates you to feel otherwise?

Yes, a nut-allergic child can stand next to a nut tree without spontaneously going into anaphylaxis. But these trees are planted inside the school grounds. Nuts don’t remain neatly attached to trees. They fall. Squirrels and other animals carry them around, bury them, crack them open and leave bits behind. Children pick things up. They dig in soil. They collect conkers, acorns, seeds, sticks and interesting things they find on the ground. Things get crushed under shoes. Things get carried around on hands. But why should that bother you? It doesn’t affect you does it…

Parents cannot demand that the local park remove every nut tree. They cannot control what another passenger eats on a train. They cannot stop shops selling nuts. They cannot control what other people eat in restaurants, at parties or in public places.
There are hundreds of risks they simply have to manage. Which is precisely why I cannot understand the determination to create an entirely optional one INSIDE THEIR SCHOOL. A place they legally have go to five days a week, unless their parents quit their jobs to home school them for your convenience. Are you feeling comfortable enough yet?

The school controls what it plants on its own land.
There are countless species of tree that could be planted in an orchard or around a school boundary.
So why choose ones that produce a common serious food allergen? Spite? Privilege? Selfishness?

What is the compelling benefit?

Is there some overwhelming educational or ecological reason that these particular nut trees absolutely have to be there?

if not… plant a different fucking tree

And yes, I think it’s sad if established trees now have to be removed. I like trees. However I’d much rather somebody had thought about this when the orchard was originally planned so that healthy trees didn’t have to come down once established.

But that’s an argument for thinking about accessibility and allergy safety properly when designing schools in the first place. It isn’t an argument for telling the parents of a child with a serious medical condition to “fuck off”. Do you see it yet? How your entitlement and rudeness affects other people…

I really cannot get past that comment.

Imagine being the parent responsible for keeping a severely allergic child safe.

Every party. Every restaurant. Every school trip. Every friend’s house. Reading labels. Checking ingredients. Asking awkward questions. Carrying emergency medication. Teaching your child, from a ridiculously young age, that something completely harmless to their friends could make them seriously ill. And that there are sadly lots of happy taytos in the world who will tell their parents to fuck off if they advocate for them.

Imagine asking their school to address something you believe presents an avoidable risk to them and being told that you what you need… what you really need, is to “fuck off”.
Where is your empathy? What happened to you? You can’t be that happy, happy taytos. With that attitude towards vulnerable kids.

Nobody is asking for the entire world to revolve around one child.
They’re asking the adults responsible for that child for most of every weekday to consider whether an avoidable source of their allergen really needs to be growing INSIDE THE SCHOOL GROUNDS.

If assessment identifies a meaningful avoidable risk, I genuinely cannot understand why removing the source would be controversial.

And for everyone saying “you can’t make the whole world safe for them”… EXACTLY. You can’t.
They already have to navigate a world that isn’t designed around their allergy. They already have to compromise, avoid things, ask questions and be more vigilant than other children.
So why the fuck can’t their school be one of the places where adults make reasonable efforts to reduce the risks that CAN be reduced?
Why should the answer to “life isn’t completely safe” be… “therefore we shouldn’t make anything safer”?

Batshit.

And why is all the responsibility being dumped onto the parents? Allergy safety should be part of the school’s policies and risk assessments so individual parents don’t have to fight these battles single-handedly while being treated as hysterical or entitled for advocating for their child.

Allergies are medical conditions. Severe reactions can kill people. That remains true however inconvenient or unlikely somebody else considers the risk.

That child matters just as much as everybody else. Even if you don’t care.

Your very long post is completely missing the point. The OP and the elderly volunteers are not responsible for this. It is a matter for the school.

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 18:29

myjamisbetterthanyours · 20/09/2026 18:26

They can also bring them from far away.

Are we going to cut every single nut tree?

Or are we going to cull all squirrels, mice and birds, just to be on the safe side?

Obviously not, but removing the nut trees in the school grounds is a sensible precaution. There is no need for them there, though I am sorry for OP’s work going to waste.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

myjamisbetterthanyours · 20/09/2026 18:31

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 18:29

Obviously not, but removing the nut trees in the school grounds is a sensible precaution. There is no need for them there, though I am sorry for OP’s work going to waste.

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What about the dropped ones you mentioned earlier?

What do we do about those?

myjamisbetterthanyours · 20/09/2026 18:34

myjamisbetterthanyours · 20/09/2026 18:31

What about the dropped ones you mentioned earlier?

What do we do about those?

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Oh, and it’s obviously not sensible enough because you identified further risks.

So, when are we cutting down all but trees and when is the cull?

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 18:36

myjamisbetterthanyours · 20/09/2026 18:31

What about the dropped ones you mentioned earlier?

What do we do about those?

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You can contact OP and volunteer to vacuum the grass if you’re worried 😉
Otherwise I’m sure nature will take care of it in time. I was advocating for sensible precautions, remember.

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 18:37

myjamisbetterthanyours · 20/09/2026 18:34

Oh, and it’s obviously not sensible enough because you identified further risks.

So, when are we cutting down all but trees and when is the cull?

🙄

myjamisbetterthanyours · 20/09/2026 18:40

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 18:37

🙄

A very well thought out post.

You posted some nonsense, you might as well try and defend it.

Perspectives123 · 20/09/2026 19:19

Ooohaaahjustalittlebit · 20/09/2026 18:07

Believe me I did. Repeatedly.

But after fighting the battle time and again with different schools and teachers and clubs I have realised the error is just deeply ingrained in current thinking. People can't grasp that milk is as lethal as nuts and nut bans reinforce this misunderstanding

This is an actually quite frightening that the people with the responsibility of your child’s safety have argued back. May I ask is this recent as I do feel awareness has increased over the last few years?
I do think that in time people will be aware that milk or any another allergens are the same as nuts. They are on the rise compared to years ago although this could be due to increased awareness.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 19:22

So interesting this thread, full of A CHILDS LIFE IS AT RISK and berating posters as if they're child killers if they suggest theres no need to remove the trees (dont even know what nut the child is allergic to at the moment)..... and yet mention milk and dairy allergies and all of a sudden, well you know, a child's life might be at risk but its quite difficult to ban or restrict dairy products in a school, after all we all like them and they're in a lot of foods, so, well..... just carry on as you were. BUT BAN NUTS.

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 19:27

I do think that in time people will be aware that milk or any another allergens are the same as nuts.

All allergies are potentially very serious, but in terms of the number of deaths from anaphylaxis nuts/peanuts and also dairy (in children) are at the top of the list. This is the reason nut/peanut allergies are taken seriously and it’s terrible that people don’t have the same awareness about dairy allergies in children.

LeopardStar1 · 20/09/2026 19:31

Perspectives123 · 20/09/2026 16:17

Banning dairy products is not at all practical for a school as it is in so many foods and it would affect a lot of people eg students and parents. Digging up a few trees is not going to affect anyone or make anyone’s life’s more difficult.
As a parent of an allergy sufferer you should know well that there is a big difference.

This ❤️

Perspectives123 · 20/09/2026 19:37

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 19:22

So interesting this thread, full of A CHILDS LIFE IS AT RISK and berating posters as if they're child killers if they suggest theres no need to remove the trees (dont even know what nut the child is allergic to at the moment)..... and yet mention milk and dairy allergies and all of a sudden, well you know, a child's life might be at risk but its quite difficult to ban or restrict dairy products in a school, after all we all like them and they're in a lot of foods, so, well..... just carry on as you were. BUT BAN NUTS.

This thread is about trees on the school grounds shedding possible nut allergens. I’m sure these posters you are referencing would also suggest removing a tree if it shed dairy allergens. Easy peasy fix. Pass onto the school to follow through.

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 19:44

Perspectives123 · 20/09/2026 19:37

This thread is about trees on the school grounds shedding possible nut allergens. I’m sure these posters you are referencing would also suggest removing a tree if it shed dairy allergens. Easy peasy fix. Pass onto the school to follow through.

Im not in favour of removing the tree personally. Im just amazed at the hypocrisy. Its the flavour of the thread, that 'doncha know how dangerous this is, remove all the risk'

But 'well I like a nice cuppa with fresh milk, sooooo, not the dairy stuff ok'

Bugbognor · 20/09/2026 19:48

I haven’t read every response, but referring to my previous point… What are the nut trees?
Nut allergy sufferers are not impacted by Horse Chestnut (conker) - it’s not a nut (or a horse)!

Perspectives123 · 20/09/2026 19:50

likelysuspect · 20/09/2026 19:44

Im not in favour of removing the tree personally. Im just amazed at the hypocrisy. Its the flavour of the thread, that 'doncha know how dangerous this is, remove all the risk'

But 'well I like a nice cuppa with fresh milk, sooooo, not the dairy stuff ok'

I think it’s the logistics of it. If a school tried to ban dairy I can almost guarantee there would be uproar from parents not so much with the nuts though as in my opinion they are easier to avoid.
Allergy parents do generally try to avoid kicking up too much of a fuss as life is stressful enough but if there is an easy fix eg removing a tree that will affect no one then I don’t see a problem.

TastingTheRainbow · 20/09/2026 20:03

Perspectives123 · 20/09/2026 19:19

This is an actually quite frightening that the people with the responsibility of your child’s safety have argued back. May I ask is this recent as I do feel awareness has increased over the last few years?
I do think that in time people will be aware that milk or any another allergens are the same as nuts. They are on the rise compared to years ago although this could be due to increased awareness.

I’ve had the same, school arguing back. My daughter has also been spiked by milk by a so called ‘friend’ who didn’t believe it was possible to be allergic to milk, I had a GP say my daughter would be fine with an inhaler containing lactose as ‘it’s only a small amount’ and ‘not to worry’ because she will outgrow the allergy, yet still allergic at age 14 now, so yes these absolutely are current views, this thread alone shows how many people had no idea how dangerous milk allergy was. It’s also the only allergy that hasn’t seen a reduction in death rates in the last 10 years. It is very much diminished and dismissed in all aspects.

Ooohaaahjustalittlebit · 20/09/2026 20:17

Bugbognor · 20/09/2026 19:48

I haven’t read every response, but referring to my previous point… What are the nut trees?
Nut allergy sufferers are not impacted by Horse Chestnut (conker) - it’s not a nut (or a horse)!

Could be hazelnuts?
We have quite a few hazelnut trees near us and DS is very allergic (anaphylactic) but we have walked past them countless times without any issues

Perspectives123 · 20/09/2026 20:23

TastingTheRainbow · 20/09/2026 20:03

I’ve had the same, school arguing back. My daughter has also been spiked by milk by a so called ‘friend’ who didn’t believe it was possible to be allergic to milk, I had a GP say my daughter would be fine with an inhaler containing lactose as ‘it’s only a small amount’ and ‘not to worry’ because she will outgrow the allergy, yet still allergic at age 14 now, so yes these absolutely are current views, this thread alone shows how many people had no idea how dangerous milk allergy was. It’s also the only allergy that hasn’t seen a reduction in death rates in the last 10 years. It is very much diminished and dismissed in all aspects.

Oh my your poor daughter, it must have been so difficult to get over that betrayal. Its also a clear example of why one of the most dangerous things around allergy children is the people around them. They are the ones who need to be educated and unfortunately I think unless you are in the ‘allergy club’ you will never truly get it which is terrible.

Calling · 20/09/2026 20:44

Bugbognor · 20/09/2026 19:48

I haven’t read every response, but referring to my previous point… What are the nut trees?
Nut allergy sufferers are not impacted by Horse Chestnut (conker) - it’s not a nut (or a horse)!

Hazelnut trees and a tall almond tree.

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notanothermother · 20/09/2026 21:00

With Benedict’s law now in place, schools are becoming a lot more vigilant and have to cross a lot more boxes to be safe. Our school is nut and peanut free. It has been for the 15+ years I’ve known and been involved in it. Just so happens my youngest who has just started school there is anaphylactic to peanuts. There is a fine line that I walk in keeping my son safe and looking like a demanding over the top mother. It’s hard. When I debate if people should or shouldn’t eat peanuts on planes or in their lunchboxes in school. To me it’s quite simple. There are endless other foods that people can eat in their own leisure time. In school time or on a plane when a hospital isn’t reachable, then people should be able to not eat nuts/peanuts for that very small part of their day. I’ve been at a local park sitting on a bench having a picnic with my son and a lady and her daughter join us, open their picnics and a Tupperware of peanuts comes out. Touching the table we are eating at, dropping them over the floor etc. we got up and left. I didn’t moan. Didn’t complain. Because it was a public space and her right to eat peanuts was no more than my right to keep him safe. But schools have a duty of care they have to enforce (rightfully so). Just because said allergy kids is allergic and won’t go near the nuts or pick them up. Doesn’t mean other kids won’t, and then touch him. A few trees just are not worth the risk on a child’s life. Is it sad? Yeah I guess so. But ultimately it’s always better to be safe than sorry. 100s of children running around at play time all who could potentially pick up that nut then touch the allergy child. The teachers noticing him having a reaction among said potential 100s of children and acting quickly. I’m still nervous when my son eats at school incase parents aren’t adhering to the no nut policy and my school is doing everything they can to keep him safe. I would also be scared if the thing that kills my son is was just there on the school grounds. Look at it this way - if you had unknowingly planted a highly poisonous plant. And if a child touches it, it could kill them. You would 100% without hesitation get rid of it. You wasn’t at fault for playing it because you didn’t know. But you would definitely get rid of it. Why just because it only has the potential to kill one child does it make it ok to keep the tree? Even if you told the kids that that tree is poisonous don’t touch it. You wouldn’t chance it. Just incase. He may be the first child with a nut allergy but he won’t be the last.

Notstoppingforredlights · 20/09/2026 21:03

notanothermother · 20/09/2026 21:00

With Benedict’s law now in place, schools are becoming a lot more vigilant and have to cross a lot more boxes to be safe. Our school is nut and peanut free. It has been for the 15+ years I’ve known and been involved in it. Just so happens my youngest who has just started school there is anaphylactic to peanuts. There is a fine line that I walk in keeping my son safe and looking like a demanding over the top mother. It’s hard. When I debate if people should or shouldn’t eat peanuts on planes or in their lunchboxes in school. To me it’s quite simple. There are endless other foods that people can eat in their own leisure time. In school time or on a plane when a hospital isn’t reachable, then people should be able to not eat nuts/peanuts for that very small part of their day. I’ve been at a local park sitting on a bench having a picnic with my son and a lady and her daughter join us, open their picnics and a Tupperware of peanuts comes out. Touching the table we are eating at, dropping them over the floor etc. we got up and left. I didn’t moan. Didn’t complain. Because it was a public space and her right to eat peanuts was no more than my right to keep him safe. But schools have a duty of care they have to enforce (rightfully so). Just because said allergy kids is allergic and won’t go near the nuts or pick them up. Doesn’t mean other kids won’t, and then touch him. A few trees just are not worth the risk on a child’s life. Is it sad? Yeah I guess so. But ultimately it’s always better to be safe than sorry. 100s of children running around at play time all who could potentially pick up that nut then touch the allergy child. The teachers noticing him having a reaction among said potential 100s of children and acting quickly. I’m still nervous when my son eats at school incase parents aren’t adhering to the no nut policy and my school is doing everything they can to keep him safe. I would also be scared if the thing that kills my son is was just there on the school grounds. Look at it this way - if you had unknowingly planted a highly poisonous plant. And if a child touches it, it could kill them. You would 100% without hesitation get rid of it. You wasn’t at fault for playing it because you didn’t know. But you would definitely get rid of it. Why just because it only has the potential to kill one child does it make it ok to keep the tree? Even if you told the kids that that tree is poisonous don’t touch it. You wouldn’t chance it. Just incase. He may be the first child with a nut allergy but he won’t be the last.

Would you be happy for your child (and everyone else in the school) to go milk free given there are more child deaths from milk allergies than nut allergies?

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 21:18

Notstoppingforredlights · 20/09/2026 21:03

Would you be happy for your child (and everyone else in the school) to go milk free given there are more child deaths from milk allergies than nut allergies?

Overall there are more child deaths from nut allergies. Dairy comes out on top in the stats for children because anaphylactic deaths due to nuts are separated into three groups — peanuts, tree nuts, unknown nuts. That said, dairy is a real danger especially for younger children, I’m not trying to downplay that.

Ooohaaahjustalittlebit · 20/09/2026 21:33

Mangoripples · 20/09/2026 21:18

Overall there are more child deaths from nut allergies. Dairy comes out on top in the stats for children because anaphylactic deaths due to nuts are separated into three groups — peanuts, tree nuts, unknown nuts. That said, dairy is a real danger especially for younger children, I’m not trying to downplay that.

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Would you be happy if school banned all dairy products from lunches and snacks?

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