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HM Gov telling us to get tinned food and bottled water?

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DecisionTime123 · 25/08/2026 23:11

Call me old fashioned, but isn't this sort of thing likely to provoke a run on toilet rolls? Couldnt find any other threads on it, but I think there is a "preppers" topic on here somewhere. In any case, what do you think? I'm sort of concerned, should I be? Or has this gone under the radar?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/aug/25/uk-to-warn-citizens-to-stock-up-on-food-amid-threat-from-climate-crisis-and-hostile-states

UK to warn citizens to stock up on food amid threat from climate crisis and hostile states

Government resilience campaign aims to ensure people can cope in a national disaster, in order to free resources for most vulnerable

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/aug/25/uk-to-warn-citizens-to-stock-up-on-food-amid-threat-from-climate-crisis-and-hostile-states

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GentleSheep · 28/08/2026 09:46

JoB1kenobi · 28/08/2026 09:22

I’m absolutely positive you’re right. However, I feel by planning to reduce my stress levels in a potential emergency situation, raises my stress levels in reality. You cannot possibly prepare for every eventuality - it’s about survival and preparing for the worst for a short term scenario.
Long term/infinitely dangerous scenarios- it’s pointless. We’d run out eventually or be looted for our goods by barbarians.

Also depends on where you live, remote settlements - I’d have a bit more. I’m suburban so more choice of shops as things start to run out.

I agree there are plenty of unknown situations where all the prepping in the world won't help. I'm 70 and disabled and know I can't survive in say a zombie apocalypse or nuclear wasteland. Maybe my supplies can help someone else if that happens! I just prep for things that will make my life more bearable for short term emergencies, such as 5 days without a working boiler a few years ago in mid winter, which certainly showed how unpleasant something like that can be, or not being able to get out due to injury and using supplies to get by for awhile.

ArabellaScott · 28/08/2026 10:05

TeenLifeMum · 27/08/2026 18:59

I have 3 teenagers so any attempt to stockpile is a complete failure as a week later I have no food in the house.

They show little interest in dried chickpeas so far. Although nobody tell them its effectively raw protein powder. They'll be huffing it in gym shakes by midday.

ThreeLocusts · 28/08/2026 10:20

Fwiw, I'm just back from a lightning visit to Italy (had to extract mum from a holiday that was getting too much) and Italian TV news really made it sound like the end is nigh.

Apparently the head of the CIA recently visited Moscow and that can only mean that the US are abandoning NATO? Plus Trump says Putin says he won't attack NATO and that can only mean he will. (That part sounded disconcertingly plausible.)

They showed footage of London while talking about the verbal squabble b/w Burnham and Putin over drones, giving the impression that the UK government is mobilising civil defenses and everyone is filling sandbags, and Russian drones darkening London's skies is only a matter of time.

It was interesting to see what you can do just by presenting fairly innocuous information a certain way. Why RAI 1 would want to give this impression I have no idea.

beigetriangle · 28/08/2026 10:21

those of you with gas stoves - check that they work without electricity. not all do

Dragonfly97 · 28/08/2026 11:43

Following.

pollymere · 28/08/2026 11:52

I think it's prudent to keep a stock of things you use regularly because there are supply chain issues at the moment. My local Sainsbury's is currently not selling own brand feta cheese for example so it's rather expensive to buy.

Having tins of tuna or meat or veg for times you may not be able to get things fresh from the supermarket is probably a good idea.

I drink high salt mineral water for medical reasons. I ordered 48 bottles from Amazon because I had a gift voucher. I didn't see the article until after the order but the Delivery Driver must have been rolling his eyes 😂

MyPeachScroller · 28/08/2026 11:53

I'm a bit surprised at some of the scoffing here. I keep extra water, a "Go" bag, back up supplies, torches, extra batteries, extra cash, a battery operated radio w/ solar, etc. While the UK is not as prone to earthquakes and hurricanes and their aftermaths as parts of the US (or elsewhere), and I've been in both, it is looking more prone to wildfires sadly. Been in one of those too. If you can shelter in place, that's one thing. But if you have to vacate quickly, you want a plan for you and your family (because you may not all be together), and you want to be able to grab what you will need and get out.
In addition, what this is really most likely about is the war in Ukraine, and Russia pursuing more. The countries bordering Russia and Ukraine have already advised citizens to be prepared and organised, like what the UK gov't is advising.

ArabellaScott · 28/08/2026 11:57

ThreeLocusts · 28/08/2026 10:20

Fwiw, I'm just back from a lightning visit to Italy (had to extract mum from a holiday that was getting too much) and Italian TV news really made it sound like the end is nigh.

Apparently the head of the CIA recently visited Moscow and that can only mean that the US are abandoning NATO? Plus Trump says Putin says he won't attack NATO and that can only mean he will. (That part sounded disconcertingly plausible.)

They showed footage of London while talking about the verbal squabble b/w Burnham and Putin over drones, giving the impression that the UK government is mobilising civil defenses and everyone is filling sandbags, and Russian drones darkening London's skies is only a matter of time.

It was interesting to see what you can do just by presenting fairly innocuous information a certain way. Why RAI 1 would want to give this impression I have no idea.

It's fine, Andy Burnham will play 'wonderwall' on guitar until Putin chills out.

PoliteRaven · 28/08/2026 12:16

To go back to the original post - where has OP gone?! She was concerned about 'panic buying' - well, sadly people behave like this a lot of the time and you can't do anything about it. e.g. I remember when there was a chance of petrol shortages about - ooh, 10 or 15 years ago - and if people had just carried on as normal for the most part there wouldn't be a shortage - but people don't do that.... and the panic buying actually contributes to the shortage.

However a broader discussion has been sparked and it's been interesting to read people's thoughts.

PollysKenwood · 28/08/2026 12:16

I find it weird that the government- and businesses more generally - has ann approach to even vital resources like gas and food on a “just in time” basis and yet advises the public not to.

MoonieDoo · 28/08/2026 12:17

It can be super cheap and not take up much space. A pack of spaghetti is 28p for 500g, so get four of those and you have 2kg of extra pasta in the house. Chuck a pack of wraps in the bottom of a freezer drawer and buy an extra tin a week or pack of dried goods. Refill a squash bottle with water and stick it under the sink, and also make sure the kettle is filled before you go to bed incase you wake up to no water. Tiny actions can really make a difference to your comfort level should something happen.

PoliteRaven · 28/08/2026 12:19

@PollysKenwood interesting point - that was changed during Covid wasn't it, though? I wondered if they'd kept that to that changed system thereafter. I've noticed in recent years that produce in supermarkets seems to be very near the end of its shelf life a lot of the time.

PollysKenwood · 28/08/2026 12:54

Not in terms of the UK’s gas storage situation it isn’t. I also find that my supermarket has fewer yellow label stickers than it used to so I conclude that their ordering policies are tighter.

GentleSheep · 28/08/2026 12:57

And just as I was reading this thread the power went out! Back after a few minutes, but I do wonder how long after a power cut from a cyber attack would we be told that was what had happened? Or would we be left in the dark (no pun intended!) for some time?

PoliteRaven · 28/08/2026 13:06

Ah yes, @PollysKenwood - I was thinking of food more than utilities. It is a bit concerning then - utilities systems don't seem as robust as they used to be.

On reflection I think my local branch of supermarket is not very well run in general so that could be the reason why the produce as a short shelf life.

@MoonieDoo the only thing with dried or freezer goods is that they'd be no good if an extended power cut was the scenario, unless you have another means of cooking them.

Therewegothen · 28/08/2026 14:25

MidlyConcerned · 25/08/2026 23:57

Read between the lines people! I’m no prepper but even I have tinned food, water, candles, torches and wind up/solar powered radio.

And it’s nothing to do with climate change!! This will be the first of a “gentle” campaign.

Hopefully we won’t be advised to be planting vegetables in our garden this time next year! Plan for the worst, expect the best!

Yes, this is prep for war isn't it.

HeatWaving · 28/08/2026 14:40

Therewegothen · 28/08/2026 14:25

Yes, this is prep for war isn't it.

'war' these days does not have to be guns and bombs.
It is likely that some countries- we know which- will use cyber attacks to damage the infra structure.

It's sounds rather dramatic to call it 'war' . You can choose to call it that, but it will be major inconvenience a lot of the time for millions of people.

Violetdeparma · 28/08/2026 15:12

However as much as we are playing down war we have been repeadedly told that we have never have such a long peace as we have now

Kalanthe · 28/08/2026 15:30

I already did this three years ago. I have toilet paper and sixpacks of water in my loft, lots of tinned food in my cupboards. I've been following the Ukraine war and I know the KGB mindset and MO of Putin. I knew where this was going.

There will be no WW3 on British soil. Putin won't nuke us. There is nothing to be afraid of in regard to this.

Putin is engaging in a hybrid war with the UK. It's been ongoing and if you google "UK Russia hybrid war" there is a lot of press coverage of all that has been going on already. It's worth reading it to understand what's happening as it affects us all.

One of the likely scenarios in the hybrid war is Russian hackers attacking a power plant resulting in a large area losing electricity for days or weeks. It has actually already happened in the UK recently, although the hackers were Iranian not Russian, and the consequences were not severe.

Without electricity there will be no water in taps as pumps run on electricity. Same with fuel at petrol stations.

We need to prepared to survive if we have to stay home for a few days. It makes us extremely vulnerable if we only have enough food at home for a day or two and no bottled water.

No, the government doesn't want to cause a covid-like madness in supermarkets. If anything, they're actually trying to prevent it if something does happen, because then all people with empty kitchen cupboards will rush to supermarkets.

Nobody has to go and buy 100 tins of food now. It's about getting a few extra cans and some water with every weekly shop and build up some rainy day stock at home.

It's also worth having candles, torches, battery-operated radio, batteries and charged power banks. Better safe than sorry

Kalanthe · 28/08/2026 15:44

ThreeLocusts · 28/08/2026 10:20

Fwiw, I'm just back from a lightning visit to Italy (had to extract mum from a holiday that was getting too much) and Italian TV news really made it sound like the end is nigh.

Apparently the head of the CIA recently visited Moscow and that can only mean that the US are abandoning NATO? Plus Trump says Putin says he won't attack NATO and that can only mean he will. (That part sounded disconcertingly plausible.)

They showed footage of London while talking about the verbal squabble b/w Burnham and Putin over drones, giving the impression that the UK government is mobilising civil defenses and everyone is filling sandbags, and Russian drones darkening London's skies is only a matter of time.

It was interesting to see what you can do just by presenting fairly innocuous information a certain way. Why RAI 1 would want to give this impression I have no idea.

Italian media like to exaggerate.

Putin won't start bombing the UK, it's a hybrid war.

The CIA head was in Russia to warn Putin to not dare attack a NATO country (like Lithuania or Estonia, not UK). It's all over the news.

I actually think Burnham is doing ok - he's short with Putin in his rhetoric and not bending under any of Putin's threats and blackmail. He understands something the orange moron doesn't - you don't negotiate with KGB thugs

ChippySeagulls · 28/08/2026 16:43

I've posted on the general peppers topic but think it worth mentioning here too. Even for those who don't believe in building a small stock in case of disruptions, it's worth buying a few extra now of the items you use to get ahead of the next wave of price rises. I've noticed a few prices climbing up again recently and no doubt will be more increases before winter.

godmum56 · 28/08/2026 17:21

did anyone see the post on Facebook? Bit long but funny
THE GOVERNMENT HAS JUST DISCOVERED THE CUPBOARD UNDER THE STAIRS
Britain is apparently being encouraged to keep a few emergency supplies at home in case the weather turns feral, the power goes off, the banking system coughs up a lung or somebody hostile decides to prod the national infrastructure with a very expensive stick.
Fair enough. Sensible advice.
What made me laugh is that basic household competence has now been repackaged as “preparedness”, as though some bright spark in Whitehall has just cracked a problem that generations before us somehow missed.
Gen X did not need a campaign. We had mothers.
More specifically, we had mothers who could turn a cupboard under the stairs into a logistical reserve capable of sustaining a family through a snowstorm, a miners’ strike, three power cuts and the opening stages of World War Three.
THE ORIGINAL STRATEGIC FOOD RESERVE
There was no system. Nothing was labelled. Nobody had vacuum-sealed dehydrated meals stacked in matching boxes next to a solar generator and a tactical water filter.
There were tins.
Loads of fucking tins.
Beans because they were on offer. Peaches in syrup because apparently every emergency required peaches. Corned beef, soup, rice pudding, evaporated milk and at least one mystery tin whose label had faded to the point where opening it became less like lunch and more like archaeology.
Throwing anything away was out of the question. A tin could have travelled through three house moves, two recessions and the entire Thatcher administration, but unless it had physically swollen into the shape of a hand grenade it was still “perfectly good”.
Then, sitting among the civilian rations, was the Fray Bentos pie.
I’m still not convinced those things were designed by a food company. That tin was closer to armour plating than packaging and getting into one required grip strength, patience and a realistic acceptance that A&E might feature later in the evening.
Had the Warsaw Pact reached Newport in the 1980s, there was no need to panic. Half the women in South Wales could have disabled a T-72 by throwing steak and kidney pies at the tracks while shouting that tea would be ready at six.
That was national defence done properly.
THE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT WAS EQUALLY ADVANCED
Every house had a torch, although “working torch” would be pushing the definition.
It would come out of a drawer during a power cut, flicker weakly for two seconds and then require the standard maintenance procedure, which involved hitting it repeatedly against the palm while swearing at it.
Naturally, the same drawer contained enough batteries to power a small submarine, but none of them fitted the fucking torch.
There were candles as well, usually ancient things left over from the last outage, a camping trip or some distant Christmas nobody could remember. The matches had been put somewhere safe, which in every British household meant somewhere so secure they would never be seen again.
Nobody needed an emergency app to explain the procedure.
Somebody found the candles, somebody checked whether the neighbours’ lights were off and somebody else shouted, “DON’T OPEN THE FREEZER,” as though the contents were undergoing open-heart surgery.
Once the entire street was confirmed dark, the diagnosis was complete. The National Grid had fucked it, Dad hadn’t.
Everyone carried on.
WHEN THE WATER WENT OFF, NATO WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD
A water outage turned an ordinary family home into a command post within minutes.
The kettle became a strategic reserve. Baths were cancelled. Cups of tea required authorisation. Toilet flushing moved from a basic human function to something approaching an operational decision.
There was always some poor bastard standing outside the bathroom asking, “Do you really need to flush that?”
Few moments in life humble a person faster than having to justify their bowel movement to the household logistics officer.
Somebody would inevitably suggest filling the saucepans, usually several minutes after the taps had already stopped working, because British emergency planning has always included shutting the stable door after the horse has fucked off down the M4.
Even so, everybody managed.
No helpline. No group chat. No neighbourhood Facebook post beginning, “Does anyone know what’s happening hun?”
The water was off. It would come back on. In the meantime, nobody wasted the kettle.
BANKING OUTAGE? MAM HAD THAT COVERED AS WELL
The modern warning about keeping a bit of cash around makes perfect sense, but it is hardly revolutionary.
Women of my mother’s generation operated a banking system that would have confused HM Treasury.
There might be twenty quid in an old purse, a tenner folded inside a tea caddy, loose change in a jar heavy enough to be used as a murder weapon and another note hidden somewhere that would eventually be discovered by whoever cleared the house thirty years later.
This was not called “financial resilience”.
It was called having a few quid put by because banks were not regarded as magical institutions incapable of fucking things up.
If the card machines stopped working, nobody stood outside Tesco staring at a dead iPhone like civilisation had ended. Cash appeared from somewhere, the shopping got paid for and life moved on.
CYBER-ATTACKS HAVE NOTHING ON DIAL-UP
The modern threat that really tickles me is cyber disruption, because Gen X and the last feral millennials were trained for that shit before anybody knew what cyber resilience meant.
Early internet was basically a controlled infrastructure failure offered as a subscription service.
First came the modem noise, which sounded like a fax machine being sexually assaulted by R2-D2 inside a skip. Then came the wait while a web page loaded at roughly the speed of continental drift.
A single photograph could take long enough to make a cup of tea, eat a biscuit and reconsider whether seeing it was worth the effort.
The entire operation depended on one thing: nobody touching the telephone.
This instruction would be announced clearly to the household. It would be repeated. Threats would occasionally be added for emphasis.
Then, forty minutes later, just as the page was almost finished loading, somebody upstairs would pick up the extension and say, “Hello?”
The modem would scream, the connection would die and one family member would immediately begin planning a murder.
That was our cyber incident response procedure.
No compensation claim followed. Nobody demanded a public inquiry. Another attempt was made later once everyone had been warned that touching the fucking phone would result in consequences.
THE LAST FERAL MILLENNIALS QUALIFY TOO
Late millennials caught enough of this world to remember life before every simple task required an app, a login, a QR code and permission to send twelve notifications a day.
Meeting friends involved choosing a place and a time in advance, then turning up.
There was no live location tracking. Nobody watched a blue dot move across a map like GCHQ monitoring a hostile submarine. If Dave said he would be outside Woolworths at seven, there was a reasonable expectation that Dave would be outside Woolworths at seven.
If Dave was late, there were two available technologies.
Waiting and swearing.
Both had excellent battery life.
Television finished as well. Actually finished.
At some point the national anthem played, the picture disappeared and the entire country was effectively told that entertainment was over and everybody should piss off to bed.
Try explaining that to somebody raised on infinite scroll.
Streaming going down for twenty minutes now causes people to start checking whether civilisation has collapsed. Back then four television channels simply stopped broadcasting and the country somehow staggered through until breakfast.
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, INCONVENIENCE BECAME AN EMERGENCY
That, for me, is the funny bit.
The advice itself is sensible. Keeping a bit of food, some water, a working torch, batteries, basic first aid, a power bank and a few quid in cash is not paranoia. It is simply accepting that systems sometimes fail.
Previous generations understood that without needing to turn it into a lifestyle.
They also understood something modern life seems increasingly determined to erase: not every inconvenience is a catastrophe.
The power might go off. The water might stop. The shop might be closed. The bank might have a problem. The internet might disappear for a while.
Life carried on because people expected occasionally to have to cope.
Plenty about the old days was crap and deserved to disappear, so I’m not about to start pretending 1983 was some golden age because we had candles and tinned peaches.
But the ability to deal with a few hours of mild chaos without treating it like the fall of Rome was probably worth keeping.
So yes, stock the cupboard.
Keep a torch that actually fucking works.
Have some cash around.
Know where the stopcock is.
And somewhere at the back, for true national security, keep a Fray Bentos pie.
If things go really badly, it can feed the family.
If things go catastrophically badly, it can stop a tank.

godmum56 · 28/08/2026 17:52

oh PS regarding my post. Who does he think taught the milennials?

axolotlfloof · 28/08/2026 18:35

LilyBunch25 · 27/08/2026 20:36

We have a portable gas stove and canisters, I'd rather have the option than not; we use them on trips anyway and replace constantly, as well as firepit in the garden and a supply of firewood. Also wind up/solar radio/torch/powerbank.

Edited

Similarly we have a camping gas stove, wood burner and firewood.
Also chickens

Charlize43 · 28/08/2026 18:56

I mentioned this thread to my office work mates today and it set one of them off: She started catastrophizing about 'the men in boats' and how the UK is now destined to become a muslim country and under Sharia law, where women would be oppressed and used for breeding and will lose their rights completely. We won't be allowed to drive or even go out into the streets (what about the shopping?) She rounded up nicely by singling out a few of us, saying 'Not you Charlize because you're too old to have babies or sex (I'm 59). I assured her I'd probably 'be dead because of my age' - She's early 30s and clearly had her head cooked by The Handmaid's Tale. She kept saying, 'If you look around, they are already among us.' It felt like an episode of the Twilight Zone as she got more and more frothy and excited.