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SO, according to my boomer mum, sending a child through uni these days is the same as it was in the 90s

322 replies

PotteringAboutIn · Yesterday 20:24

Because apparently they didn't have the wages back then

Ffs
Drives me nuts

What when uni was free, accommodation wasn't anywhere near as expensive and you even got a grant

OP posts:
BathersOnTheLine · Yesterday 21:27

PotteringAboutIn · Yesterday 21:25

Bit bitter I think, always comparing grandchildren
Hates that fact dh has the kind of job she know he will earn a high salary
, not that I've discussed that with her but it's obvious from his job

I think she would be a happiest if I had a shit life, scraping by so she could tell me that's just how it is

She actually hates that fact my life is good and comfortable

Think she's quite bitter about getting old too, which I do get a bit as it is hard

very bitter that she worked full-time while doing everything at home, all cooking cleaning etc

Likes just coming out with random shit

I'm sorry your mum is difficult OP but it sounds like this is a your mum thing and not a boomer thing. Especially as she is not even a boomer.

Papyrophile · Yesterday 21:29

When Tony Blair thought it was a good idea for 50% of school leavers to go to university, he really didn't consider who was going to be paying for it. I went in 1974, and my grant and tuition barely cost £1400 in total.

Papyrophile · Yesterday 21:32

And only about 8% of 18 year old school leavers went. I had AA Merit and I D grade at A level to get in.

12things · Yesterday 21:34

titchy · Yesterday 21:08

I’m not sure I entirely disagree with her tbh… sorry! Fees are paid from loans, so no direct outlay as it was then. Grants were only available then if you were from a poor background - at least now everyone is entitled to a minimum maintenance loan. The majority of people I was at uni with relied fully upon their parents. So in a sense there’s been an improvement since then.

My accommodation was £30 a week, over half my grant went on rent. We all worked!

Lifestyle wise - no significant changes. Lots of time spent drinking, clubbing, parties, eating noodles and toast because they were cheap. Modules, assignment deadlines, exams - as now. Had to get physical books and journals out of the library as no internet, but environment pretty much the same despite that.

Great days!

I went in 2000s so a bit later but I think it's an entirely different ballgame now
I had no support from parents at all. And I mean none, I stayed in my accomodation all year round except maybe a couple of days each holiday when I'd visit home.
And I managed to fund it with student loans, grants and a psr time job. And my halls were one of the pricier catered ones.
The loans now are designed with the expectation that parents top them up. It's so expensive to go nowadays whereas back then it was a running joke that my parents were better off when I went to uni as they didn't have to feed me!

12things · Yesterday 21:36

Also I was the only person I knew at uni with a job. And I really do mean the only one, I went to a Russel grant uni and no one worked and I was a novelty trotting off to my job every weekend

hahabahbag · Yesterday 21:37

In the 90’s your parents income was assessed and they could be told they should give you £2200 a year, this at least covered costs but that was a lot of money. My parents were assessed as needing to give me half of that, we didn’t have that much spare - contrast that with the £4260 I was assessed as needing to give my dd which was more affordable.

ExplodingSmittens · Yesterday 21:37

BathersOnTheLine · Yesterday 21:27

I'm sorry your mum is difficult OP but it sounds like this is a your mum thing and not a boomer thing. Especially as she is not even a boomer.

Well quite.

AGlessandahalf · Yesterday 21:42

Papyrophile · Yesterday 21:29

When Tony Blair thought it was a good idea for 50% of school leavers to go to university, he really didn't consider who was going to be paying for it. I went in 1974, and my grant and tuition barely cost £1400 in total.

What was the annual salary then?

Pistachiocake · Yesterday 22:06

Only free and with a grant until 1997, you pre-Xennial you!
But they were more or less guaranteed to find a job back then.

Friendlygingercat · Yesterday 22:06

I find the expression "Boomer" to be as offensive as a Black person would find the N word. Especially as I am not a Boomer. I belong to the generation before - the so called silent generation. That name was given because my generation were taught to conform to rules and not make a fuss or express dissenting views.

The indoctrination did not work in my case as I rejected all the models which my parents held up to me about getting married and having babies.

When I finally got myself to uni in my early 40s it was still free and I did get a grant. The "university experience" was probably very similar. However we did not have to contend with all this woke nonsense and net zero. Standards have slipped considerably and grade inflation means that 1st class degrees are given out now like sweeties. In the 1980s/90s a 1st was given for exceptional merit.

MistyMountainTop · Yesterday 22:12

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 20:41

Boomer was never meant to be an insult to be fair. It's an accurate description of a phenomenon after WW2 when there was a baby boom. And then the baby boomers became teenagers/young adults in the sixties and because there were so many young people proportionally it had a social effect. And then they entered politics etc in the 80s. (And then they remained in politics in America through to now for some reason.) And now there is a very large cohort of retired people as a result of said baby boom and that's having an impact of its own.
I agree I don't like it when it's used to imply "ignorant boomer" kind of thing. But they/you did have a unique experience both as young people and adults and it's fine to indicate that.

I'm apparently a boomer and was still at school in the 80s!

TallSturdyGirls · Yesterday 22:15

KnewYearKnewMe · Yesterday 20:45

For many parents though, they still felt the pinch for accommodation.

obvs the student didn’t accumulate the huge tuition and maintenance debt, but I’m late 50s and absolutely know families who would have felt they adjusted their budgets when their kids did their degrees.

No they didn't. Im 52. I got a loan and a grant. This covered all my accommodation. There were no fees and I got a part time job that covered my living expenses. Enough so that I got to abroad each summer holiday. My parents gave me nothing!

JackandVictor · Yesterday 22:17

I went to UNI in the '90s. There were no fees for the years I was there. Mum and Dad did pay for my halls but they were so cheap compared to now even taking into account inflation. Oh and then I did a masters which you did have to pay for and it was £3k for the whole thing. I don't think it's at all comparable to today.

mumumental · Yesterday 22:17

Mylovelygreendress · Yesterday 20:33

As a 60 something year old , I really dislike the term boomer .
Why not just say your Mum ?

Also 60 isn’t a “boomer”.

MistyMountainTop · Yesterday 22:18

WyrdHag · Yesterday 21:01

Mine is also Silent Generation.

Apparently her cohort didn't have the advantages of being able to get jobs for life then onto the housing ladder, raise a family on one income and retire at 60 if they chose...

I'm pretty sure the SG and the Boomers had it harder than anyone else in history....

I'm a boomer (apparently) and don't get my state pension until 67

OutOfApricots · Yesterday 22:19

PotteringAboutIn · Yesterday 20:37

Yes she's over 80

Well unless she was born in the few months between the end of WW2 in 1945 and the 4th July 1946, she is too old to be described as a baby boomer anyway.

And give over with that term, it is ageist and offensive.

5128gap · Yesterday 22:20

PotteringAboutIn · Yesterday 20:43

Exactly I dont offered of someone says gen x

That's because no one uses Gen X in a disparaging way. We're not quite old enough yet to be stereotyped as out of touch/entitled/rude/selfish
etc. Our time will surely come though.

sandalbed · Yesterday 22:21

I find the expression "Boomer" to be as offensive as a Black person would find the N word.

🤦🏻‍♀️

maxslice · Yesterday 22:21

Every generation think they have it the hardest.

Miyagi99 · Yesterday 22:25

PotteringAboutIn · Yesterday 20:49

I'll ask chatgpt ..... halls around 35 to 45 per week

Yes that sounds about right, think I paid £200 for private accommodation in my second year. But a student loan was only £1000 and that had to cover all your expenses including food and accommodation.

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 22:25

MistyMountainTop · Yesterday 22:12

I'm apparently a boomer and was still at school in the 80s!

Your gen X I think...

AgnesMcDoo · Yesterday 22:27

Boomer is an ageist slur
no grants in the 90s
costs were relative

Ohpleeeease · Yesterday 22:28

Just for info we didn’t all get grants. They were means tested, you only got a full grant if your parents income was below a certain level. I got the minimum grant, which was £50 for the academic year. And no, we weren’t rich. The comparisons with then and now aren’t straightforward, it’s a silly argument.

MistyMountainTop · Yesterday 22:32

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 22:25

Your gen X I think...

No, born early 1964, Gen X starts in 1965

MistyMountainTop · Yesterday 22:33

And people born from March 1961 get their pension at 67