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It’s hotter than reported

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Bubblebathbefore8 · 24/06/2026 21:43

Why are the reports of high temperatures being played down?

Gosport is coastal - will be cooler than inland from there, it was 38c not far from there earlier

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Bjorkdidit · 25/06/2026 15:02

Meadowfinch · 25/06/2026 14:56

My garden thermometer (on a north facing wall, in shade all day) and my car, parked in the shade, were both showing 36 degrees in north Hampshire. It feels a degree or two hotter than yesterday at 2pm.

See, Mumsnetters don't even need thermometers! They can feel when the termperature changes even a tiny bit.

SadiraOfTyr · 25/06/2026 15:48

Meadowfinch · 25/06/2026 14:56

My garden thermometer (on a north facing wall, in shade all day) and my car, parked in the shade, were both showing 36 degrees in north Hampshire. It feels a degree or two hotter than yesterday at 2pm.

Those tally with the forecast.

SowWhatNow · 25/06/2026 16:11

Winterpeach · 25/06/2026 13:21

Outside is saying 31 indoors its 20.
I'll stay indoors for the next few days.

It hit 44.0 outside at 2pm today for me, inside a nice and cool 29.7 degrees downstairs, upstairs 33.4. Too much. South Coast.

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Elbowpatch · 25/06/2026 16:26

Persephonia1966 · 25/06/2026 14:58

I think we're talking at cross purposes!
I was talking about the reports on temperatures etc the BBC have done. They went round Delhi with a thermal camera and it was genuinely scary! That gives info on temperature but a different kind of information to the type the net office want (the thermometer ls in weather stations). So you can have very different sets of readings through the two methods but both are worthwhile and useful to know.

I have just done that around the outside of my house. The front wall is 56 degrees. The front door is 67 degrees.

The actual ambient temperature is 34.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 25/06/2026 16:30

It was eight million degrees in our conservatory. My lolly melted.

igelkott2026 · 25/06/2026 16:32

It was forecast to be 35 where I live today and I popped out in the car about 2pm and it said 35.

I understand that it's been about 39 on Jersey today - completely crazy temperature.

notimagain · 25/06/2026 16:50

It's 38C at Jersey airport now ( around 1645 UK time) but of course Jersey is on the western edge of all the really hot stuff France is getting so that sort of temp for them isn't surprising..for example it's 40C at Nantes airport ATM

Bubblebathbefore8 · 25/06/2026 20:17

It’s a bit hot. A local building has an outside thermostat and it said 44c. More ice cream please

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Shortsharptap · 25/06/2026 20:20

Don’t the apps give you the temperature in the shade?

Bubblebathbefore8 · 25/06/2026 20:31

I won’t keep banging on about it but… if it’s 40c in the sun, surely it’s 40c if you are walking down an unshaded street? I think pike want to prepare for the 40c rather than the reported (for example) 33c. Isn’t that the point of a weather forecast? To prepare us?

im wearing linen dress and flip flops, my hair is almost as good as Monica’s Barbados hair and my face is sweating

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Elbowpatch · 25/06/2026 21:01

Bubblebathbefore8 · 25/06/2026 20:31

I won’t keep banging on about it but… if it’s 40c in the sun, surely it’s 40c if you are walking down an unshaded street? I think pike want to prepare for the 40c rather than the reported (for example) 33c. Isn’t that the point of a weather forecast? To prepare us?

im wearing linen dress and flip flops, my hair is almost as good as Monica’s Barbados hair and my face is sweating

They would have higher temperatures for people wearing dark clothes and lower ones for people wearing light clothes. Similarly, higher temperatures for people walking alongside buildings or on a tarmac road than for somebody walking across a grassy field.

Daft!

SadiraOfTyr · 25/06/2026 21:10

Bubblebathbefore8 · 25/06/2026 20:31

I won’t keep banging on about it but… if it’s 40c in the sun, surely it’s 40c if you are walking down an unshaded street? I think pike want to prepare for the 40c rather than the reported (for example) 33c. Isn’t that the point of a weather forecast? To prepare us?

im wearing linen dress and flip flops, my hair is almost as good as Monica’s Barbados hair and my face is sweating

No it’s not. The “40C in the sun” is actually the temperature of a piece of metal or plastic that is left out in the sun. That is very different to both the air temperature and your skin temperature.

Yes it feels hotter if you are in direct sunlight as your skin absorbs radiation and heats up, in addition to absorbing heat from the air.

But none of this is quantifiable so all we are left with is air temperature measured in the shade as the only reproducible and consistent measure of ambient temperature.

1dayatatime · 25/06/2026 21:37

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Persephonia1966 · 25/06/2026 22:14

Bubblebathbefore8 · 25/06/2026 20:31

I won’t keep banging on about it but… if it’s 40c in the sun, surely it’s 40c if you are walking down an unshaded street? I think pike want to prepare for the 40c rather than the reported (for example) 33c. Isn’t that the point of a weather forecast? To prepare us?

im wearing linen dress and flip flops, my hair is almost as good as Monica’s Barbados hair and my face is sweating

Humidity matters as well.
This is why, when the weather forecast warms it's going to be hot, and the government is issuing severe weather warnings, the people saying "it's only 33 degrees" are stupid. But no matter how much they emphasize that it is indeed going to be dangerously hot some people still won't manage to take that on board.

Maybe it would be easier if they had a hot weather version of "wind chill" (when it's cold and they say it will be -5 but with a wind-chill factor of -10)

Persephonia1966 · 25/06/2026 22:15

(I don't mean you btw. More the "I'm going to carry on as normal you are all snowflakes" types.

Bjorkdidit · 26/06/2026 05:47

Bubblebathbefore8 · 25/06/2026 20:31

I won’t keep banging on about it but… if it’s 40c in the sun, surely it’s 40c if you are walking down an unshaded street? I think pike want to prepare for the 40c rather than the reported (for example) 33c. Isn’t that the point of a weather forecast? To prepare us?

im wearing linen dress and flip flops, my hair is almost as good as Monica’s Barbados hair and my face is sweating

But surely all you need to know is that it’s dangerously hot?

There's no rational reason for you to behave any differently at 30 C or 40 C. In either cases you'd want to reduce the amount of 'walking down a sunny street' that you do.

Plus the difference in temperature isn't as great as 30 to 40 C implies because that's on a scale based on the behaviour of water, not absolute temperature. If you wanted to plan, you'd be making decisions based on solar intensity and humidity.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/06/2026 06:50

Not in the long summer of 1976

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/06/2026 06:51

SadiraOfTyr · 25/06/2026 14:43

There are over 200 weather stations across the UK, each of which measure:

  • Air temperature at 1.25 m above the ground
  • Air temperature over a grass surface or its artificial equivalent
  • Air temperature over a concrete surface
  • Soil temperature at 0.1 m, 0.3 m and 1.0 m below the ground level
  • Relative humidity at 1.25 m above the ground
  • Amount of rainfall
  • Depth of lying snow
  • Mean wind speed, mean wind direction and maximum gust at 10m above the ground
  • Atmospheric pressure at the station level and reduced to mean sea level
  • Pressure tendency and characteristic
  • Visibility
  • Amount of cloud
  • Type of cloud identified by observer
  • Height of cloud base
  • Present and past weather
The measurement of almost all the elements on the list is fully automated; data are logged at the station, processed to convert the measurement to a meteorological element in standard format, and transmitted to a central collecting system based at the Met Office's headquarters at Exeter. Each station produces observations at minute intervals.

But of course mumsnetters with a £6 digital thermometer from Argos know better.

But where's the fun in facts and science?!

Sherararara · 26/06/2026 06:54

FruityFrog · 24/06/2026 21:56

Yeah but my car said 37 today.

And?

Sherararara · 26/06/2026 06:54

SadiraOfTyr · 25/06/2026 21:10

No it’s not. The “40C in the sun” is actually the temperature of a piece of metal or plastic that is left out in the sun. That is very different to both the air temperature and your skin temperature.

Yes it feels hotter if you are in direct sunlight as your skin absorbs radiation and heats up, in addition to absorbing heat from the air.

But none of this is quantifiable so all we are left with is air temperature measured in the shade as the only reproducible and consistent measure of ambient temperature.

This

Sherararara · 26/06/2026 06:56

Bubblebathbefore8 · 24/06/2026 21:43

Why are the reports of high temperatures being played down?

Gosport is coastal - will be cooler than inland from there, it was 38c not far from there earlier

“Being played down”.

it’s all a conspiracy obviously.

user1476613140 · 26/06/2026 07:05

We had a huge thunderstorm where I am last night. It has thankfully cleared the air. It has been too hot the last few days and is cooling down from today thank goodness. 17C. Still too hot but better than 27C.

Imlyingandthatsthetruth · 26/06/2026 07:09

Yeah, let's leap straight to "it's a conspiracy..." rather than find out how things actually work. Quite depressing thread really.

Pedallleur · 26/06/2026 07:17

Should have been with me at the gig I went to last night. indoors, I was in the upstairs section. It was ridiculously hot. Band were rocking tho

Pedallleur · 26/06/2026 07:19

Imlyingandthatsthetruth · 26/06/2026 07:09

Yeah, let's leap straight to "it's a conspiracy..." rather than find out how things actually work. Quite depressing thread really.

Next thing will be 'Its witchcraft' and x or y is in league with Beelzebub.