It begins! Calls for NHS lanyards to be removed because of the Nowak killing

[SocialistMammy]

I suppose this knee-jerk over-the-top reaction was inevitable.

There are calls today - including from Kemi Badenoch - for public sector staff, including the NHS! to stop wearing "political" lanyards.

These could be just showing that you're a decent person who opposes genocide, or that your patient is safe with you regardless of your sexuality or gender identity when they are being treated.

And this is all because .. of the murder of Henry Nowak.

So, despite the calls from Nowak's family not to politicise their poor boy's death - that's EXACTLY what the far right are now trying to do. And the NHS has NOTHING to do with that police officer.

Where this is heading looks very ugly - we've got a World Cup starting shortly, and that's going to mean England flags being used to attack minorities. Will footballers have to make statements about diversity being anti white? Probably - it feels like the far right think this is their time now and ANYTHING is up for grabs.

It will be lanyards today, deportations tomorrow. Mark my words.

Yes, I think the original post should be reported. It is just hijacking a terrible event to make a political point.

You shouldn’t be allowed to wear anything like this at all
but also it can endanger staff
public facing workers deal with everyone for the top of the pile to the vile dregs at the bottom
If you have something supporting immigration and you are dealing with a racist who doesn’t want it there’s a very visible flash point

The so called trans issue is a huge problem for women in the nhs. I wouldn't consider mentioning it on this thread " shoe horning". Trans ideology has infiltrated all parts of the nhs to the detriment of women.

Why do public sector workers (any sector) need to wear performative badges? Just do your job. 😉. Your have your views - but you don’t need to share them.

And this is all because .. of the murder of Henry Nowak.

Absolutely.

This is awful.

Yes, the OP literally references rainbow lanyards. The idea that a response addressing that point is shoehorning is idiotic.

No, I don't care a jot, and my views won't change. It's more that it is being used to try and silence legitimate concerns and stop actual discussion.

“derailed by calls of antisemitism”

It is literally a recommendation on a report on antisemitism.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/john-mann-nhs-jewish-keir-starmer-penny-mordaunt-b1284784.html

Fortunately I assume you posted that in a hurry without thinking because objecting to antisemitism looks an awful lot like antisemitism…

The vast majority of patients in the UK aren’t Palestinian, so the badge will be of no significance to them.

Unless they’re Jewish, then they might actually feel uncomfortable.
All patients should feel safe and be treated with respect.
No need to virtue-signal to one group at the expense of another.

Wholeheartedly agree @godmum56 !

Not unless they need to know.
My name, job role and trust logo is on my ID badge so I don’t need it on the lanyard too.
If I need to go to the supermarket on my way home or if I go out for a walk on my (occasional) break, I’d rather not openly advertise the fact. And if I take my lanyard off before I get home, there’s a danger I’ll put it down and lose it!
I didn’t used to feel like this, but the way staff are seen and treated is very different now to when I joined (in 2005). I really like my job (I am in a senior role, but still clinical) & my team is great. I don’t like the pressure, the prioritising of targets over people (or the politics).
I feel sad that I feel like this about the lanyard, but for me, it’s a sign of the current times.

Equally the vast majority of patients aren't Jewish.

So having the badge will be of no significance to them.

This is not true.

No signalling is necessary to say that “you will be safe with me”. That’s a basic requirement for an NHS worker ALL patients should be safe, always.

'No need to virtue-signal to one group at the expense of another.'

This is exactly right. I dont quite know how the OP thinks it's ok to wear a Palestinian flag badge but it's not ok to wear a Reform badge.

Healthcare staff making political affiliations or views known is completely wrong and unnecessary.

What’s your view on the wearing of political badges etc amongst NHS and other frontline public workers?

Same here, I work in the public sector, we've had this for a few years. Only lanyards issued by the organisation are allowed.

Fair enough, understand what you’re saying.

I do sometimes need to go places (supermarket, petrol station) before or after work.
I do sometimes go out for a walk on my lunch break.
I do walk to where I’ve parked my car (I don’t use the staff car park)
I will sometimes put it in my pocket (if I have a jacket) but I don’t want to risk taking it off and losing it so it usually stays on from when I leave home until I get back.
But yes, when I’m at work in an nhs building, seeing nhs patients it’s pretty obvious I’m not there as a hobby!

It's so nasty, the OP hasn't even acknowledged her error (if it was an error) I've reported the thread to MNHQ and asked for the title to be amended, I suggest others do the same. My report-

"This thread title & opening post contains a lie which seeks to lump together the public response to the murder of Henry Nowak with a far right agenda that the OP claims could lead to deportations. It's a disgusting link to make, especially on a parenting website."

Lying about the link between Henry Nowak's murder and this guidance is disrespectful political point scoring. The OP is no better than Farage & Starmer.

I completely agreed with you .... until your last word. The PM has been thoughtful, measured and condemned Farage on this. All excellent.

Indeed, there is no comparison between Starmer's and Farage's behaviour here. The OP is no better than Farage.

I have to disagree with you.

Starmer was only willing to deploy ‘anger’ against Farage - nobody else. You can call that ‘performative’, too.

If you have to wear a lanyard to tell people you're a good person then I would be very wary about what sort of person you are. Writing on a shitty lanyard proves absolutely nothing. I think it's creepy as fuck

I think any kind of political statements or alignments should be on lanyards. They should just be standard to the organisation.

And, yet, here you are politicising the boys death by erroneously attributing this change to his death?!

but surely even with a plain lanyard, your badge will identify you?