It begins! Calls for NHS lanyards to be removed because of the Nowak killing

[SocialistMammy]

I suppose this knee-jerk over-the-top reaction was inevitable.

There are calls today - including from Kemi Badenoch - for public sector staff, including the NHS! to stop wearing "political" lanyards.

These could be just showing that you're a decent person who opposes genocide, or that your patient is safe with you regardless of your sexuality or gender identity when they are being treated.

And this is all because .. of the murder of Henry Nowak.

So, despite the calls from Nowak's family not to politicise their poor boy's death - that's EXACTLY what the far right are now trying to do. And the NHS has NOTHING to do with that police officer.

Where this is heading looks very ugly - we've got a World Cup starting shortly, and that's going to mean England flags being used to attack minorities. Will footballers have to make statements about diversity being anti white? Probably - it feels like the far right think this is their time now and ANYTHING is up for grabs.

It will be lanyards today, deportations tomorrow. Mark my words.

I agree. I tend to assume most people don't support genocide, anti semitism etc as a default.

I'm not interested in someone at the hospital, police station etc virtue signalling with a special lanyard. I naturally assume they are there to support me because it's their job to do so.

These could be just showing that you're a decent person who opposes genocide

Bang! You've immediately picked upon a political position and justified it as a good moral decision.

As does anyone who holds a particular view.

But morality is always used as a justification to do sh*t things, like burning witches, or a host of other heinous acts.

Believe what you will but don't take it into work (where you're paid to work not proselytise) because other people may fear that you judge them for who they are and what they believe.

And since we have a taxpayer funded, free at poc, health service - putting any barriers to anyone getting care is an apartheid.

@020LOLZ

Oh please what exactly?

My local authority issued lanyards with the rainbow for pride on them. I wear a lanyard with my football team on instead.

Was OP not doing a satire?

You’re there to treat a patient without fear nor favour (to borrow a phrase).

It’s not about your personal grandstanding.

If you think that’s what you are there for then perhaps it’s not the role for you. (Rhetorically speaking not aimed at you op).

I wonder how many people get shamed/railroaded into being a political billboard / flag / lanyard waver by their employers & staff networks?

Its bang out of order.

I'm sorry your husband experienced that. And the problem is that, if he complained about her poor job performance, he'd be risking being accused of some prejudice stemming from her (wholly unnecessarily open) political affiliations.

No-one should bring their politics to work especially in the NHS. It's unprofessional and childish for someone dealing with patients or colleagues to be wearing badges or decorated lanyards.
Your patient isn't going to be telling you their politics and if they did would you treat them differently? I suspect you would. The attitude that people with different opinions to you are inherently "bad" people is so depressing.
The only badge you should be wearing is one that tells your name and job role.

Good i worked 39 yrs in NHS , uniform standards have totally slipped if not disappeared. Wear the trusts logo as is provided with your ID badge .Don't even get me started on staff nails .How its become acceptable to have long fake decorated nails .
Yeah I'm feeling my age today .

I’m public sector so is it acceptable for me to wear the purple, white and green lanyard to show my affiliation with women’s rights and protecting single sex spaces?
It’s all or nothing and rightly so.

Some trusts official lanyards are rainbow ones. I was issued with one on my first induction day.
Personally, I’d prefer to have an unbranded mid-blue one (or any other plain colour of their choosing for that matter). I don’t especially want to overtly advertise that I work for the nhs, let alone any other personal beliefs.

One would hope that a hospital of all places is a place where people ‘feel safe’. Apart from the mixed sex wards and toilets cunningly disguised as single sex for females only but allowing men-who-identify-as-women in there (and vice versa), or the medical misogyny that’s very well documented, or the staff who actively carry out so-called ‘gender affirming’ procedures. I bet some of those staff love wearing their rainbow lanyards and pin badges.

You’re talking absolute bollocks. Live your life according to your own morals and values. Why do people feel the need to virtue signal by wearing pointless lanyards!? I’m sure minority groups would rather a donation which would actually really mean something, than someone saying ‘look at me. What a good, compassionate person I am’…..

You don’t want people to know you work for the NHS?

The murder of Henry is nothing to do with the conversation around badges. This report has taken what 6 months to report back on.

Take Henry out of the conversation. Its nothing to do with this. Lord Mann's report is completely seperate.

And how do you think a Jew would feel, being looked after by someone displaying a Palestinian lanyard? How would they trust the person to give them proper care?

It's has become remarkably clear in the past few days that the term 'far-right' is the new TERF.

but surely you only wear it at work and if you are working, its no secret that you work for the NHS?

Ffs, does every single thread have to shoehorn the trans issue in?

Have not RTFT. Only employer ID should be worn on a lanyard. NHS blue, with printed NHS, or Openreach, or Cornwall Council. No affiliations or affirmations, politics or preferences.

Nope. Just pointing out that far right is now being used as an insult to shout down anybody whose views dont align with a certain way of thinking.

But does anyone care what some random person on the internet decides to label you as? Some of my views may be considered ‘far right’ by some, but if that’s what box they decide to put me in, then that’s fine….🤷‍♀️

I agree with this. Also (provided patients are not being abusive at the time), surely healthcare workers have to literally serve everyone? Including people they would think are bigoted, wrong, even hateful (if they asked their private opinions, which they shouldn't). Healthcare is meant to be provided in prisons, even to people who have done terrible things. It's meant to be completely universal. Political badges and lanyards put that into question and invite a political dimension, which there just shouldn't be.