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What do Christians make of the crosses at the Tommy Robinson march?

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noblegiraffe · 17/05/2026 11:46

I'm an atheist so my reaction is 'co-opting the imagery of the Crusades because these people hate Muslims'. But it's not my religion and not my imagery.

What do Christians think about the huge amount of wooden crosses being available for protesters on the Tommy Robinson march to pick up and march with?

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LoserWinner · 17/05/2026 12:25

If every person that carried a cross yesterday was in church today, I’d think it was ok. If they were just using the cross as a symbol of their hateful views, I’d abhor it.

BrieWisteria · 17/05/2026 12:26

Fine. But performative. I saw them as pagans Larping. I generally thought the whole thing made patriotism look chaotic and off-putting. The use of crosses came across like a LARP more than genuine religion and definitely didn't inspire me to return to church as someone who grew up in a religious household and has been thinking about returning to my roots.

Humans do not evaluate systems in isolation. They evaluate them in fields of contrast. At one point I was walking past a crowd of men old enough to be my dad's age chanting "get your tits out for the lads."

Women were crouching to piss up against walls. Men were standing up and pissing in bushes.

"Get them out" was on a placard held by woman in bikini top too small for large bosom (does she have OnlyFans? Probably). As if Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips haven't done enough damage to the image of British women. Yes it does matter to me.

More chants to "Take it off! Take it off!" Lots of wanting to get tits out for some reason.

Americanised, shouty prayers, nothing like the dignified Christian warmth of my youth.

I have been and remain concerned about Islam. In particular the misogynistic aspects of Islam that seem deeply embedded in every madhhab.

But almost everything going on at the Unite The Kingdom march read as low-order, high impulsivity signals.

I'm not a modern Green voter who has bought into whitey = evil, legalise all drugs, side with Islam. But I would honestly feel more relaxed on a train journey with women in hijab and niqab than on a train with drunk women who want to get their tit's and bits out to save Britain, even if they are holding 5foot crosses.

Contrast produces metaphysical re-ranking. I also cringe when "patriots" post photos of themselves putting bacon on Qurans. Partly because they don't know what they're doing which is essentially harming their own cause.

So the target of UTK (clearly Islam, not immigrants) got up-ranked in symbolic dignity by contrast. And the performative Christianity only made it more offensive.

There's also a mimetic thing going on. The protesters clearly want to define Islam as chaotic / threatening / uncouth. But their own expressive style became the more visible thing that was chaotic / threatening / uncouth. So the symbolic aggression rebounded onto the aggressor.

Being in Britain is like watching a train wreck in slow motion and there's not much you can do but watch as OnlyFans "Christians" vs Niqabi Muslims collide.

aurpod1980 · 17/05/2026 12:29

Most Christians worldwide are not white. While Christianity has historically been associated with Europe, the majority of the global Christian population is now non-white, located primarily in Latin America, Africa, and Asia. As of 2015, approximately 68% of Christians globally were people of colour. Therefore I’m sure if they knew that they wouldn’t be lifting the crosses. If I was a Christian (I’m not) I would hope that perhaps if these people were to turn to God, and his love then they would not be so hateful.

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GentleSheep · 17/05/2026 12:33

As a Christian, yes it is uncomfortable in many respects to see them. I agree with the PP who said it reminded her of LARPing. Of course I'm delighted if people have a genuine faith in Christianity and I do know people online who have gone to that march and are real Christians. It isn't my cup of tea though. And although I know TR has recently become a Christian, he has a long way to go in terms of Christian maturity, and I hope he really does mature, but he's not there yet. The chants, the bacon, it's unnecessary and damages the image of Christianity.

JustAMiddleAgedDirtBagBaby · 17/05/2026 12:36

noblegiraffe · 17/05/2026 11:46

I'm an atheist so my reaction is 'co-opting the imagery of the Crusades because these people hate Muslims'. But it's not my religion and not my imagery.

What do Christians think about the huge amount of wooden crosses being available for protesters on the Tommy Robinson march to pick up and march with?

I'm a Christian, though probably not a very good one.

I find the co-opting of Christian imagery like this absolutely repellent.

I also think that most of the people brandishing them would fall over on the spot of they read any of the relevant Bible verses.

Mumandcarer80 · 17/05/2026 12:42

I don’t believe most of those with a cross dragged their sorry arses out of bed this morning or any other Sunday morning to attend church.😂😂😂

ValenciaOrangeJawline · 17/05/2026 12:44

I am an atheist but some close friends and family are Christians. Their approach to their lives and faith is very much “What would Jesus do?”.

Would Jesus have marched with Yaxley-Lennon’s followers and endorsed their hatred? I don’t think so.

juldan · 17/05/2026 13:06

Disgusting. Those people are not Christian, their ideology goes against the teachings of the Bible.
What about ‘love thy neighbour’, protect the weakest, help the oppressed?
The only ‘religion’ those people practise, is racism, homophobia and hatred.
If Jesus came here now followed by twelve other Middle Eastern men, those people would demand that they should be deported.

midnights92 · 17/05/2026 13:06

My view: all bit bloody weird.

chisanunian · 17/05/2026 13:17

Wooden crosses at a far-right march? It's not Christian imagery, it's KKK.

LancelotCamelotHorse · 17/05/2026 13:19

I'd be very pleased to see a real return to Christianity. I do think some of this is sincere. Some of it is plainly political as well, and tied up with people's worries about Muslims. The cross business was rather theatrical, but there is no offence in it, and no it was nothing like the KKK, it was a very multiracial affair. What is only enacted stays outside the place where anything can actually be harmed. If anything pity them and their distance from true Christianity. I've never quite understood the bacon business. It always seemed a bit schoolboy to me. Jesus was Jewish and would have eaten kosher food. Reform and Restore banging on about about restricting kosher and halal says something about them. they are playing with surface level symbols. Just let kosher and halal be. If Christ returned and fancied a barbecue, they might have to rethink that one! But it does harp back to everything being theatrical. Christianity asks for humility, charity and self-discipline. I hope that is the part that grows. Not antisemitism and Islamophobia. You can't save Europe… theatrically.

Amsylou · 17/05/2026 13:26

Disgusting. As a Christian who attended church this morning and married to an immigrant, I find the whole thing abhorrent. I don’t want to be associated with any of these far right protesters. The fundamentals of Christianity are to love your neighbour and love God, and I can’t see them doing either.

We need to be calling out hate no matter who is professing it or who it is aimed at.

Llttledrummergirls · 17/05/2026 13:37

I think the churches should have had 30000 more congregation members this morning.

No, then it's a load of performative nonsence.

worriedmumofgirls · 17/05/2026 13:37

I don’t see an issue.

ChaToilLeam · 17/05/2026 13:40

I doubt if many of those cross-wielders would be able to recite the Lord's Prayer to you, or tell you their favourite hymn. I doubt if any would have been at church this morning.

They will use the symbols of religion when it suits them but it is all empty posturing.

Justusethebloodyphone · 17/05/2026 13:45

LancelotCamelotHorse · 17/05/2026 13:19

I'd be very pleased to see a real return to Christianity. I do think some of this is sincere. Some of it is plainly political as well, and tied up with people's worries about Muslims. The cross business was rather theatrical, but there is no offence in it, and no it was nothing like the KKK, it was a very multiracial affair. What is only enacted stays outside the place where anything can actually be harmed. If anything pity them and their distance from true Christianity. I've never quite understood the bacon business. It always seemed a bit schoolboy to me. Jesus was Jewish and would have eaten kosher food. Reform and Restore banging on about about restricting kosher and halal says something about them. they are playing with surface level symbols. Just let kosher and halal be. If Christ returned and fancied a barbecue, they might have to rethink that one! But it does harp back to everything being theatrical. Christianity asks for humility, charity and self-discipline. I hope that is the part that grows. Not antisemitism and Islamophobia. You can't save Europe… theatrically.

Which bits are sincere?

petitpasta · 17/05/2026 13:46

I'm a practising Christian and a church leader. It appalls me to see this appropriation of my faith. I have a few friends who have associated themselves with this nonsense and some of the MAGA 'Trump is God's man' nonsense and I have distanced myself from all of them and explained why.

BluebellShmoobell · 17/05/2026 13:46

Amsylou · 17/05/2026 13:26

Disgusting. As a Christian who attended church this morning and married to an immigrant, I find the whole thing abhorrent. I don’t want to be associated with any of these far right protesters. The fundamentals of Christianity are to love your neighbour and love God, and I can’t see them doing either.

We need to be calling out hate no matter who is professing it or who it is aimed at.

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How are they far right? Have you ever been on one of the marches? You've no idea what your talking about. Are you going to condemn the free Palestine March where they were calling for tommy to be shot in the neck like charlie kirk, regardless of what you think of him thats an incite to violence.

BluebellShmoobell · 17/05/2026 13:48

In my opinion theres nothing Tommy Robinson has said that is worse than the men who have raped, tortured and in some cases murdered heaven knows how many women and girls

Duckdivingforfish · 17/05/2026 13:52

BluebellShmoobell · 17/05/2026 13:48

In my opinion theres nothing Tommy Robinson has said that is worse than the men who have raped, tortured and in some cases murdered heaven knows how many women and girls

If all someone can say about you is that you aren't as bad as rapists or killers it's not a great reflection on you is it.

Amsylou · 17/05/2026 13:52

BluebellShmoobell · 17/05/2026 13:46

How are they far right? Have you ever been on one of the marches? You've no idea what your talking about. Are you going to condemn the free Palestine March where they were calling for tommy to be shot in the neck like charlie kirk, regardless of what you think of him thats an incite to violence.

I very much condemn the pro Palestine marchers’ hate speech aimed at Tommy Robinson (that is awful), and the antisemitic chants. It’s not ok. I am quite worried about the blurring of anti Israeli government discourse (which I agree with) with the discourse around Jewish people and the resulting hate crimes (which is disgusting). But the pro Palestine march was not appropriating my faith as far as I’m aware.

I was responding to OP’s question about those who wearing crosses in the march. I appreciate there may be some who were there for different reasons, but I do not agree with Tommy Robinson and what he stands for, and this is what I take issue with.

Amethystanddiamonds · 17/05/2026 14:02

I sometimes wonder how Mary and Joseph fleeing to Egypt, with Jesus, to escape the violence of king Herod squares with their views on immigration. If they hadn't travelled to another country to escape persecution (and stayed most of his childhood) then Jesus would likely have been murdered as an infant. That's before we get to the fairly central issues of loving thy neighbour etc.

I suspect not many of them have spent much time reflecting on the teachings and actions of Jesus.

Hellohelga · 17/05/2026 14:03

@BluebellShmoobell in the vast majority of cases of women and girls in the uk that are raped and murdered, the perpetrator is their British partner or ex partner, not an immigrant.

CieloElmers · 17/05/2026 14:05

I don’t even really understand they were “protesting” seems like an excuse to be openly racist yobs to me. Unite the Kingdom, what does it even mean?

Doubt hardly any of them have recently stepped foot in a Church!

Tommy Robinson doesn’t give a shit about Christians and just wants to spread hate and make money.

tomatoesofresh · 17/05/2026 14:07

People are worried about immigration. Well, Christianity is the answer.

We can evangelise to Muslims, we can live side by side peacefully with those who don't want to become Christian.

Muslims aren't vampires. Most of them commit very little crime in the UK, even compared to other immigrant groups. They are people of the book, after all.

We can evangelise with Christ on our side, not with racists. The church is already growing due to African immigrants.

The grooming gangs were made up of men not adhering to their own faith. If they had been, they would not have done such bad things. We can't label all Muslims groomers like we can't label all white men colonisers, or Palestinians terrorists, or Israelis terrorists, or anything like that.

I think Christ may lead us out of here but first we need to shed tribalism. We need more sensible border enforcement but in the meantime we need less aggression and singling out different groups like mobs with pitchforks and more bridge building.