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Labour has announced a new tax!

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 13/05/2026 22:34

I know, I know, we’re all shocked.

In the King’s speech today. A new tourist tax that would be applied to overnight accommodation. It’s called the Overnight Visitor Levy Bill and could add around 5% onto hotel, B&B, guesthouse costs. They are pushing it through as we speak, I guess in time for summer.

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Badbadbunny · 15/05/2026 09:56

rentals · 15/05/2026 09:51

Look at the taxes already on the UK tourism sector. The main killer is VAT at 20% of revenues. Compare that to VAT in say Italy. That apparently is only 10% on hotels etc. So half what we pay here. Adding a small additional tourism tax still puts them below the VAT paid here. Adding an additional tourism tax to UK hospitality hits the business even harder.

A hotel I have contact with for every £100 in revenue (money taken in before deducting the costs of running the business) £35 goes straight to the government. That's 35% of every penny in the door straight to the government. Think VAT, rates, other taxes. Add another 5% that's an insane tax rate. The business has then to deduct costs, salaries, purchases, utilities etc and they are down to a profit of a few pounds per £100 in the door if that.

If we want comparable taxes with overseas, which is how it's being sold, then VAT needs to be reduced accordingly.

Obviously this is seen as a tourist tax, so paid by tourists. In the end it is paid by businesses because they will lose trade, have to cut back on everything, cut prices, probably lay staff off and the very very many that are struggling will go under. To hit an industry that was destroyed by covid, where owners are still paying off large debts they took on to survive covid, during a cost of living crisis is the kind of politics I'd expect to see during a y6 class project where in depth concepts just aren't considered.

Fully agree, especially the last paragraph. We're suffering "school" level political decisions at the moment. No proper in-depth analysis as to behaviour and consequences. I've heard more sensible sixth form discussions than from Reeves and co.

sleepwouldbenice · 15/05/2026 10:46

rentals · 15/05/2026 09:51

Look at the taxes already on the UK tourism sector. The main killer is VAT at 20% of revenues. Compare that to VAT in say Italy. That apparently is only 10% on hotels etc. So half what we pay here. Adding a small additional tourism tax still puts them below the VAT paid here. Adding an additional tourism tax to UK hospitality hits the business even harder.

A hotel I have contact with for every £100 in revenue (money taken in before deducting the costs of running the business) £35 goes straight to the government. That's 35% of every penny in the door straight to the government. Think VAT, rates, other taxes. Add another 5% that's an insane tax rate. The business has then to deduct costs, salaries, purchases, utilities etc and they are down to a profit of a few pounds per £100 in the door if that.

If we want comparable taxes with overseas, which is how it's being sold, then VAT needs to be reduced accordingly.

Obviously this is seen as a tourist tax, so paid by tourists. In the end it is paid by businesses because they will lose trade, have to cut back on everything, cut prices, probably lay staff off and the very very many that are struggling will go under. To hit an industry that was destroyed by covid, where owners are still paying off large debts they took on to survive covid, during a cost of living crisis is the kind of politics I'd expect to see during a y6 class project where in depth concepts just aren't considered.

Again... not if its spent on the visitor economy to boost tourism and support these areas

NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/05/2026 10:47

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 13/05/2026 22:38

I’m sure it’s all very worthy and I’m sure we can all argue how local tourist areas have the right to tax holiday makers etc, however all I see is the Labour government implementing ANOTHER tax. It’s literally all they have done since they came in.

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It's literally not.

Splooterer · 15/05/2026 10:49

fashionqueen0123 · 13/05/2026 22:34

Seems to be the case in many countries tbh. But not always applied to local residents

How can you not apply it to local residents?

fashionqueen0123 · 15/05/2026 11:12

Splooterer · 15/05/2026 10:49

How can you not apply it to local residents?

It’s often charged when you check in. They ask for passports etc and you pay then.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 15/05/2026 12:38

fashionqueen0123 · 15/05/2026 11:12

It’s often charged when you check in. They ask for passports etc and you pay then.

What - as in if you show you have a British passport and stay at a hotel in the UK, you don't have to pay? I'm British and I don't even have a passport - so this could also be discriminating against poorer people, who can't afford a passport/holidays abroad etc; but even Brits who do have passports... how many people carry their passport with them when they're staying in their own country?

Or have I misunderstood?

rentals · 15/05/2026 14:05

sleepwouldbenice · 15/05/2026 10:46

Again... not if its spent on the visitor economy to boost tourism and support these areas

This is the y6 economics problem. It's a bigger picture.

columnatedruinsdomino · 15/05/2026 14:25

Great idea and a long time coming but it needs to be divvied up locally. The litter and the detritus on the beaches is disgusting. Air/sea rescue every week for people thinking they know the sea best. A small levy could go towards our council tax and the voluntary services.

columnatedruinsdomino · 15/05/2026 14:25

Great idea and a long time coming but it needs to be divvied up locally. The litter and the detritus on the beaches is disgusting. Air/sea rescue every week for people thinking they know the sea best. A small levy could go towards our council tax and the voluntary services.

columnatedruinsdomino · 15/05/2026 14:25

Great idea and a long time coming but it needs to be divvied up locally. The litter and the detritus on the beaches is disgusting. Air/sea rescue every week for people thinking they know the sea best. A small levy could go towards our council tax and the voluntary services.

columnatedruinsdomino · 15/05/2026 14:25

Great idea and a long time coming but it needs to be divvied up locally. The litter and the detritus on the beaches is disgusting. Air/sea rescue every week for people thinking they know the sea best. A small levy could go towards our council tax and the voluntary services.

columnatedruinsdomino · 15/05/2026 14:25

Great idea and a long time coming but it needs to be divvied up locally. The litter and the detritus on the beaches is disgusting. Air/sea rescue every week for people thinking they know the sea best. A small levy could go towards our council tax and the voluntary services.

columnatedruinsdomino · 15/05/2026 14:25

Great idea and a long time coming but it needs to be divvied up locally. The litter and the detritus on the beaches is disgusting. Air/sea rescue every week for people thinking they know the sea best. A small levy could go towards our council tax and the voluntary services.

Splooterer · 15/05/2026 14:43

fashionqueen0123 · 15/05/2026 11:12

It’s often charged when you check in. They ask for passports etc and you pay then.

Nobody holidaying in the UK, from the UK needs a passport to check in to a hotel. @fashionqueen0123

fashionqueen0123 · 15/05/2026 15:57

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 15/05/2026 12:38

What - as in if you show you have a British passport and stay at a hotel in the UK, you don't have to pay? I'm British and I don't even have a passport - so this could also be discriminating against poorer people, who can't afford a passport/holidays abroad etc; but even Brits who do have passports... how many people carry their passport with them when they're staying in their own country?

Or have I misunderstood?

No I'm saying this is what happens in other countries sometimes. Local residents would have driving licenses or ID cards etc
Foreigners have to register their passports. UK hotels do this sometimes too already for tourists.

fashionqueen0123 · 15/05/2026 15:57

Splooterer · 15/05/2026 14:43

Nobody holidaying in the UK, from the UK needs a passport to check in to a hotel. @fashionqueen0123

Who said they did?

RaininSummer · 15/05/2026 18:44

I do think you should be able to show that you pay council tax and water bills in the UK and not get this extra charge on top as it already costs a fortune to go anywhere.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 15/05/2026 22:50

fashionqueen0123 · 15/05/2026 15:57

No I'm saying this is what happens in other countries sometimes. Local residents would have driving licenses or ID cards etc
Foreigners have to register their passports. UK hotels do this sometimes too already for tourists.

Not everybody has those documents, though. My MIL has never driven, lives in the UK and thus doesn't have a national ID card, and only replaced her long-expired passport last year for a trip to Europe. I really don't think she would have been happy if somebody had told her that she had to pay for a passport if she'd been going on holiday elsewhere in her own home country.

Even if folk do have these documents, it's still an extra thing to have to remember to take with you - and then be worried about losing all the time. What happens if you have them, but you don't have them with you?

sleepwouldbenice · 15/05/2026 23:32

rentals · 15/05/2026 14:05

This is the y6 economics problem. It's a bigger picture.

Are you even aware of the consultation and the direction and results coming out in June?
Thought not
Until you have a clue about thst i suggest you dont embarrass yourself by pretending you know what you're talking about
Your year 6 economics is giving you away

Splooterer · 15/05/2026 23:37

fashionqueen0123 · 15/05/2026 15:57

Who said they did?

You said local people didn't have to pay the tax. You don't know what you are talking about.

blacksax · 15/05/2026 23:38

"however all I can see is the Labour government implementing ANOTHER tax, It's literally all they have done since they came in"

Well to be fair, someone has to rectify the monumental fuck-up the Tories made of the books.

notnorman · 15/05/2026 23:46

It’s not just tourists who use hotels. what about workers?

it will be the smaller hotels who will suffer the most- chain hotels will be fine.

sleepwouldbenice · 15/05/2026 23:48

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 15/05/2026 22:50

Not everybody has those documents, though. My MIL has never driven, lives in the UK and thus doesn't have a national ID card, and only replaced her long-expired passport last year for a trip to Europe. I really don't think she would have been happy if somebody had told her that she had to pay for a passport if she'd been going on holiday elsewhere in her own home country.

Even if folk do have these documents, it's still an extra thing to have to remember to take with you - and then be worried about losing all the time. What happens if you have them, but you don't have them with you?

And that's one of the questions being considered
Apply the charge to everyone given that all tourists impact an area
Or oblige everyone to prove their identity to prove their residence or otherwise
Still being discussed....

rentals · 15/05/2026 23:51

sleepwouldbenice · 15/05/2026 23:32

Are you even aware of the consultation and the direction and results coming out in June?
Thought not
Until you have a clue about thst i suggest you dont embarrass yourself by pretending you know what you're talking about
Your year 6 economics is giving you away

Can you explain to me how your comment that the money is fed back into the local district makes this work? I'm interested.

AWeeCupOfTeaAndAnIndividualFruitTrifle · 15/05/2026 23:57

sleepwouldbenice · 15/05/2026 23:48

And that's one of the questions being considered
Apply the charge to everyone given that all tourists impact an area
Or oblige everyone to prove their identity to prove their residence or otherwise
Still being discussed....

Hmm, I'm not too keen on that possibility, personally: if you're expected to carry your documents with you when travelling in your own country. Would it stop with hotels? What about shops and cafes - touristy or otherwise? If we're going to possibly tax tourists for where they stay overnight, would it then lead to an extra tourist tax in retail and hospitality establishments - so there are effectively the 'standard' tax-inclusive (tourist) prices and the lower ones for those who can prove they're from the same country/area? It would be even more annoying if this had to be done everywhere - even in the places where nobody ever goes as a tourist, but might conceivably go from out of the area (e.g. a business meeting or specialist contractor travelling in to do a job).

Maybe this is what the new digital ID is partly intended for: in theory, it's entirely optional; but in practice, you won't be able to do loads of everyday things (or will have to pay a premium for them) if you don't have it?