excuse me, this is the quiet carriage

[beigetriangle]

...said a woman on the train yesterday afternoonto a man who was loudly snoring away.

how I admire her! I wish I had the courage.

Yeah, I loathe snoring, and have slept in a separate bedroom to my DH since we were about 40 (now late 50s) because of his snoring.

But this was a dick move from this woman. Pretty nasty thing to do. Waking someone up like that!

I wouldn't have been bothered about anyone snoring if I was awake myself. I would simply have put my headphones on.

YABU @beigetriangle

I don't think this thread is going quite how the OP was expecting.

I wonder if she'll come back..... 🤔

I just did a quick google. I think the advice by the train companies is to keep conversations to a minimum.

She definitely did the right thing. I can’t believe some replies here saying he can’t help it. Well he can fall asleep at home then can’t he! Come on now

She may have done him a favour - maybe he isn't aware how loud his snoring can be. It might even push him to get medical help.

The snoring must have been very loud if the woman felt she had to wake him up.

That’s incredibly rude and mean. Having no idea what he had gone through that day to be so tired to fall asleep in public. I hope he wasn’t a hospital worker or someone finishing a night shift.

I did the same, it’s to avoid LOUD conversations, phone calls and to use headphones.

Normal conversations are fine. It’s not a silent carriage.

Anyone who needs silence should use noise-cancelling headphones - or choose not to travel by public transport. Bullying people is not the answer.

Some people snore like pneumatic drills, I can't stand the sound of it so I'd wake his up as well, he's probably only able to fall asleep bcause everyone else was being quiet in the quiet carriage except him! Poor man my arse.

Snoring is horrific. Most of the time it can be fixed and the snorer is well aware of the noise they make. It can be bloody loud too.

He should have sat somewhere else.

Well done that woman, wish I had her confidence!

Yes me too! Although I call them ‘laptop bashers’. There are SO MANY on my commuter train - if I forget my headphones I actually feel like sobbing.

A whispered conversation? Yes I’d say that falls within a quiet carriage etiquette

NOT in a “silent carriage” if such a thing exists

I want to know if this person actually shook him awake to tell him to stop snoring @beigetriangle !!

Silent carriages do exist in Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland and you can't talk on them or bring children that talk. I have travelled on a few trains in Germany and even though they haven't been quite carriages, they were very quiet. I think there is much more expectation in Denmark, Germany and Switzerland of societal standards and respect for the rules though.

Fair enough for a silent carriage

no shaking or violence involved.
she touched the man's shoulder and spoke in a not very loud voice.

it was a very loud, irregular snore. sounded worryingly unhealthy tbh.

Loud enough for you to hear though, she wasn't concerned about him, his health or breathing issues but just that it was a quiet carriage and he was disturbing her.,

Yes, it's ashame that they aren't silent here or that people don't have common courtesy when travelling on a quiet zone carriage expecting to talk.

I wouldn't have woken the guy upmfor snoring though that's a different thing and not purposeful.

Poor bloke. I get people saying he shouldn't have fallen asleep in the quiet carriage if he knows he snores loudly but you can't possibly know WHY he fell asleep in the first place, could have been up all night with sick kids, caring for a sick parent/partner, could have been disturbed by noisy neighbours ... there are thousands of possibilities and so many are quick to jump to imagining he's just some selfish prick. Sad that there is such a lack of compassion and understanding these days.

What’s the quiet carriage?

It's a train carriage where there are clear signs no mobile phones on speaker, use headphones for listening to music etc. Few people respect this, they are often just as noisy as other carriages, no one cares anymore but often there are no other seats available. If you want to pay the privilege of real noise then go,first class with the loud phone calls, constant keyboards clacking and video calls.

Typing I can cope with,it's the loud conversations on phones with no ear buds that do my head in.

Quiet carriage + very low voice / whispered conversation = absolutely fine

Silent carriage + very low voice / whispered conversation = inconsiderate

Really? I imagine it far more likely that as the average bloke, he’s a selfish prick. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don't agree it's not about the rules of the train, it's about the lack of self awareness. I don't understand why you would go to a quiet carriage to have a chat, whatever level, it's incongruous with the notion of the 'quiet carriage'.

There's a difference between a chat and short exchanges such as "could I borrow your phone charger" or "did you remember to book a table" and I think the latter type is fine but I wouldn't get onto a quiet carriage and start having a lengthy chat.