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Would you support national CCTV, facial recognition and DNA collection at birth?

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Rostio · Yesterday 08:52

For the purpose of law and order, would you be for or against:
A) More CCTV and facial recognition, all connected to a national system.
B) DNA collected and recorded from babies at birth.

(Ironically, the first time I've used the AI title generation!).

OP posts:
Winter2020 · Today 17:40

Also let's DNA dogs as part of a licence. Shits tested for DNA and posted back to their owners with a 1k fine to cover the cost of the scheme. Not joking.

tartyflette · Today 18:16

jackstini · Yesterday 10:49

Yes I have read 1984

I do trust that most people are good

I do not trust our police or judiciary system to catch and prosecute successfully anywhere near enough rapists, murderers, paedophiles, assaulters. I believe DNA would both improve that and be a deterrent

Most murderers are actually caught, if for no other reason that most murder victims are known to their killers. Spouses and partners of murder victims are investigated thoroughly, their DNA will be all over the scene and once apprehended the police have the power to take a suspect’s DNA anyway.
The crime of rape will not be more successfully prosecuted by knowing the identify of the rapist, the problem is that many rapists are identified, caught and brought to trial but are not convicted. It is a problematic issue, to put in mildly.
Having DNA databases of the entire population is far more about subsequent state control and possible interference in the lives of its citizens.
And for those who say that if you obey the law you have no need to fear any extension of the state’s powers — who knows what may happen in future regarding laws on free speech, dissent and the right to demonstrate, for example?
I wouldn’t trust them as far as I can spit.

BrownBookshelf · Today 18:17

Ringshanks · Today 17:40

Yes -dna evidence is the best aid we have to prosecute rape , and a familial database could be derived

I don't think it is. The vast majority of rapes are committed by someone the victim knows and the question is about what happened, not identity.

Instructions · Today 18:18

No, absolutely not

Dontcallmescarface · Today 18:35

No.
Can you imagine the scenes if the police were to say "the DNA matches that of Jack Smith". Every Jack Smith of the same age group would be a suspect and if that crime is of a sexual nature against a child then anyone named Jack Smith would have a target on their back, guilty or innocent. You only have to look at recent events in the news to know that the mob mentality would take over and all hell would break loose.

SerendipityJane · Today 18:41

Winter2020 · Today 17:40

Also let's DNA dogs as part of a licence. Shits tested for DNA and posted back to their owners with a 1k fine to cover the cost of the scheme. Not joking.

I'd vote for you.

AnOldCynic · Today 19:20

I read that as CCTV at birth. Can’t imagine anyone enjoying watching that.

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