Wendy Duffy heart breaking but understandable

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What a brave lady i hope she's holding her son right now.

Do you, know to the contrary @Ficinothricegreat?

Enlighten me.

Well, in this case she didn't even end her own life - she paid a Swiss company to kill her!

I think it is an entirely private decision and should remain so.

I feel sad for somebody I know who is living with a similar set of circumstances. It must be triggering.

It’s desperately sad but I can understand. I hope she’s at peace now.

Omg are you serious this is the 2nd time I said because I was replying to someone who said I kept saying it are you going to say I've now said it a 3rd time because I'm replying to you

This. ^ I am not sure how I feel about all of this, truth be told.

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Thus lessening the risk of it going wrong and ending up with organ damage etc.

I wouldn't advise either way I'm pro choice just the same as if someone asked me if they should have an abortion. Its not for me to say. These are personal decisions only the individual can make

And also means you're not traumatising an innocent person in the process lile a train driver or the family member who has to find you

It may not be the decision that most people would make but she felt it was right for her. Of course it’s sad for the family left behind but this should be an option (note I say option) for people.

It doesn’t matter OP. It really doesn’t matter. You still have no RIGHT to speak for her.

A key principle of the Mental Capacity Act 2005 is that someone should not be deemed to lack capacity because they make a decision that others find unwise or unpalatable. Even when that decision has adverse consequences, up to, and including, their death. People can and do refuse medical treatment, knowing they will die without it. If they have capacity, they are allowed to do that.

Exactly that! It could be argued that THAT is selfish but in a clinic with professional staff? Not seeing the issue if that was what she wanted

I'm asking you a very simple question.

What relevance does her mother's dementia have and why do you think it means she'll 'understand'?

Surely it's not difficult for you to tell us what it has to do with anything??

Very sad. Incredibly sad situation all round. I knew this was her plan but didn’t realise it has now happened.

I hope she is at peace and despite how awful it all is I am glad she had the right to do this. Especially as she had previously attempted suicide. I know some people were opposed to it but it doesn’t seem right to deny someone the right to end their life safely, forcing them to do then attempt it themselves.

Nobody knows what happens after death. Personally I have no religious beliefs so expect it’s just a big nothing….but nobody knows. It seems odd to me that people with no connection to a person, for example Wendy Duffy, would be so vehemently opposed to her having the right to do this, and insist she has to stay alive. Why? To what end? She doesn’t want to be here. It’s a choice. Nobody is forcing these people to use assisted dying. They don’t have to engage with it at all. But i feel its right that the choice is there for people who do.

I am pro choice and this is not the same as abortion. I am not against assisted dying either (although have concerns about exploitation of vulnerable family members) but this particular reason, and if she is herself leaving her own mother behind to live with grief, I just think desperately sad. I wish there had been more support for her. Grief is not linear, there are good days and bad, and previous posters are proof that a life worth living is possible even after the death of your only child.

I originally said she will understand as she's a mother and will have witnessed her child suffering and will just want her to be happy even if it means her suffering as thats what mums do. I then read a news article that said she has dementia so I doubt she's even particularly aware depending how progressed the dementia is

And this is all that's wrong with the internet and this site in particular given its ethos (from which it largely deviates for clicks) . Those that have actually lived the experience are the only ones with a right to a considered view. The remaining randoms chipping in with their worthless personal judgements are totally immaterial

i totally agree - right to choose all the way. If anything it’s even simpler than abortion as how can anyone object when there is you and you alone?

Actually everyone has the right to an opinion on assisted dying

Witnessed a suicide in front of a train and yes I was very angry and distressed. The train driver's face is something I'll never forget, plus the screams.

Knew someone who put their two children in pushchairs in the waiting room, with food and drink. Then stepped down onto the tracks of an incoming train. She did suffer from extreme mental health problems, exacerbated by domestic abuse. Both children are grandparents now.

Public suicide is incredibly difficult to witness and be a part of. However I feel empathy for both these people, one a complete stranger and the other I knew.

And what about those of us who have been through it and say, you don't get over it but you come to terms with it and live a different life afterwards but it doesn't have to be a joyless life?
I feel dreadfully sorry for Wendy but certainly don't think she has done a brave thing. I agree with assisted dying in many circumstances but this looks like a situation I would have advised persevering with for a while longer, with the aid of medication.

this looks like a situation I would have advised persevering with for a while longer, with the aid of medication.

But why?

I don't think someone should have the right to pay a company to kill them because they're depressed and want to die, and yet don't want it badly enough to do it themselves, and are too afraid they'll botch the job.

It's not actually that hard to kill oneself 'successfully', if one is determined. Robin Williams, Chester Bennington, and Chris Cornell all managed perfectly well, for instance.

Having a company do it just removes the usual roadblocks that might prevent depressed people from killing themselves, and that's not a good thing.

I always find it a bit weird when people say I hope she's (he/them) are at peace now, they're dead, they don't feel anything.