US considering de-recognising UK's sovereignty of Falkland Islands

[FernandoSor]

Apparently as 'punishment' for us not getting involved in the US and Israel's war against Iran, the US is considering stopping recognising our sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, and presumably supporting Argentina's claim - after all Milei is a huge Trump bootlicker ally.

Daily Express link as I know many here will dismiss a BBC or Guardian link:

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2197895/keir-starmer-will-desperately-hope

How many Gibraltarians voted to remain in the EU ?

I know.

Well obviously, but I was comparing like with like - small islands thousands of miles away from the (in our case, sovereign) country.

Yes he did but obviously in the context of trying to explain how much the conflict cost, he wasn't suggesting it as a solution.

I first went down south back end of 82, and the locals at that point were the one's who had lived through the Argentian occupation.

Bar one or two notorious individuals nobody was the least bit interested at all having the Argentinians back ( even the supposedly polite onrs) or them having any say in the running of the Islands.

Now I know times have changed but I think you still have to respect the wishes of the population..

Well that's a moot point surely as they're part of Shengen . . .

How many Gibraltarians voted to remain in the EU ?

I don't know, but in 2002 they overwhelmingly rejected a proposal to share sovereignty with Spain, with a view to Spain ultimately regaining full sovereignty. 98.97% voted No on an 87.9% turnout (Wikipedia).

95%

Numbers are irrelevant when it comes to democracy, you see.

Seriously, the US needs to go take a running jump, the manchild starts a war he can’t end, demands everyone joins in then throws his toys when they say no, then he threatens to punish said countries for daring to say no. Donald,go shove your head where the sun don’t shine and keep your nose out of the Falklands

Remember Brexiteers and how apparently those EU bastards were stealing our sovereignty? A few years later and that EU deal we had looks even better as Mango jabbers away

The majority of Gibraltarians are British citizens with British passports. 84% of Gibraltarians turned up to vote in the EU referendum. 19,322 checked the box to stay in the EU and 823 voted to leave.

Amazing what you can find out if you ask Google.

Yep. Those racists have irreversibly damaged the country they pretend to care about with their stupidity.

Pleased you can now accept my point.

Does no one learn rhetoric anymore?

A few clarifications first, the US along with Australia, France and Canada support the UK's position that the status of the Falkland Islands should be determined by the Falkland Islanders themselves.

Meanwhile countries such as Brazil and Mexico support Argentina's claim to the Falkland Islands.

The US is threatening to change to a neutral position where they don't support either the UK or Argentina- a position taken by most countries such as Germany or Italy for example.

What does interest me is that none of the posters complaining about this potential change in position, seem that bothered about our "European ally" Spain that supports the Argentinian claim to the islands.

It really seems that many posters object to whatever Trump says not because they disagree with or understand his opinions, but simply because Trump is saying it.

It really seems that many posters object to whatever Trump says not because they disagree with or understand his opinions, but simply because Trump is saying it.

I think the whole world is now taking that view as a default position. Either that or ignoring him.

The US has changed position to punish the UK.

It’s not an accident that it’s come out now.
It’s not part of discussions with the UK or even with the Falklands.

It’s another attempt to bully. Driven by emotion and petulance.

What would the practical effect of a US neutral position be ?

No, me neither.

None whatsoever.

About the same as Germany also having a neutral position.

But you are perfectly OK and have no objection to our "European ally" Spain supporting Argentina's claim to the Falklands (not even being neutral) because "well it's not Trump".

I return to my main point that we are now in such a politically polarised world that it doesn't matter anymore what someone says, what matters is who is saying it.

Spain haven't changed their opinion to punish the UK

You are comparing different scenarios.

I don’t think Spain’s stance is connected to the war in Iran.
Trump’s known for his petty rhetoric - you only have to peek at Truth Social ramblings to know that.

It’s specifically to punish the UK for their stance on Iran whereas the Spanish stance is long standing. The Argentine claim partly rests on the Spanish never properly relinquishing claim to the islands. Also Spain and the UK have history of territorial disputes like Gibraltar.

You don’t just judge on actions but motives and context as well.

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous explanations ever:

"You don't just judge on actions but motivation and context as well "

No what really matters is actions.

Its a bit like saying being punched in the face by someone because they don't like the colour of your skin or your religion is far worse than being stabbed multiple times by someone who simply wants to steal your phone or handbag because they need the money.

Spain actively supports the Argentinian claim, the US is threatening to move to a neutral stance. The Spanish position is more detrimental for the people of the Falklands than the US moving to a neutral position.

So why has the US suddenly altered its position and why now?

Spite possibly simply because the UK didn't meet US requirements regarding Iranian war.

Yes, the timing is rather suspicious.