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Motherhood Has Radicalised Me

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IWantThisJob · 03/03/2026 12:46

The social and cultural conditions of motherhood are actively cruel to women.

In pregnancy and birth we are often not listened to, or patronised, or have our pain minimised by medical professionals. The induction rate is sky high and it’s not uncommon for women to suffer quite extreme birth injuries and be expected to get on with it, to care for a newborn, often with very minimal support, and not make a fuss. We are often discharged, in pain, with very limited pain relief, bleeding, to care for a baby, sometimes having been awake for 3 or 4 days solidly.

Statutory paternity leave is 2 weeks. I read somewhere the other day that the average mum on maternity leave spends 8 hours a day alone with her baby.

We experience broken sleep for years on end, in my case 4 years and counting, and are expected to just carry on, go to work, earn money, listening to and managing screaming and crying and tantrums at all hours of the day and night.

Work and childcare are non functional. Most households need two incomes. Childcare is expensive, even with funding, work is often inflexible. We’re expected to work like we don’t have children and mother like we don’t work. If you work full time you might be made to feel guilt, if you don’t work you’re lazy.

The mental load! The sheer weight of the responsibility of organising everyone and everything, the cooking, the planning, and the amount of information we need to remember on a daily basis, of who needs to be where at what time, who needs to take what to school, who we need to buy a birthday present for, is proper cognitive labour. If you ask your husband to do it, he probably will, but it’s just another fucking thing that you need to do in asking. If he’s anything like mine, he’ll be a good husband and a good dad, but he just will not ‘carry’ it all in the way that you do.

School is term time, 9-3. 6 weeks to navigate over the summer. Arranging work, sorting childcare, trying to do activities with them to keep them and yourself sane (still not sleeping, still often listening to screaming).

Then there’s the cultural and social pressure. Can’t breastfeed? Failed. Had a C section? Failed. Oh they have to share a bedroom? Failed again. Are you feeding them well? Are they on track developmentally? Are they making friends and coping at school?

This model of motherhood may not be what everyone experiences, but if it what you experience, this level of pressure, expectation and sheer workload on mothers is actively cruel. It’s a feminist issue, and I have been radicalised. I feel actual anger at the way mothers are treated at a societal level.

I have two children. I work part time in a career that I love. My husband is also doing his best, just like me. But the pressure and expectation, and sacrifice of self, work, and autonomy is just not the same. I’m not depressed, I love my children desperately and I enjoy my life. This is not really a discussion about my own personal motherhood, but the general pattern within society.

Anyone else?

OP posts:
Cosmication · 03/03/2026 16:56

Luckily I became a feminist very young after seeing the impact of motherhood on my own mother. I remember having a moment where it hit me how many women throughout history had put themselves aside (their dreams, ambitions and intellectual potential) in order to focus on their societal and motherhood roles. I feel like I grieved for all of those women who must have watched men become great thinkers, artists, writers, scientists and leaders; while they (the women) cooked dinner and looked after the kids and elderly day in day out. I grieved for all their talents and passions they must have had in their hearts, quietly tucked away, never to see the light of day. The pain of that still feels so immense.
I know things are not as bad as that now but I still feel the huge injustice of it all like a punch in the stomach. Needless to say I decided not to have children!

Thingything · 03/03/2026 16:58

IWantThisJob · 03/03/2026 12:46

The social and cultural conditions of motherhood are actively cruel to women.

In pregnancy and birth we are often not listened to, or patronised, or have our pain minimised by medical professionals. The induction rate is sky high and it’s not uncommon for women to suffer quite extreme birth injuries and be expected to get on with it, to care for a newborn, often with very minimal support, and not make a fuss. We are often discharged, in pain, with very limited pain relief, bleeding, to care for a baby, sometimes having been awake for 3 or 4 days solidly.

Statutory paternity leave is 2 weeks. I read somewhere the other day that the average mum on maternity leave spends 8 hours a day alone with her baby.

We experience broken sleep for years on end, in my case 4 years and counting, and are expected to just carry on, go to work, earn money, listening to and managing screaming and crying and tantrums at all hours of the day and night.

Work and childcare are non functional. Most households need two incomes. Childcare is expensive, even with funding, work is often inflexible. We’re expected to work like we don’t have children and mother like we don’t work. If you work full time you might be made to feel guilt, if you don’t work you’re lazy.

The mental load! The sheer weight of the responsibility of organising everyone and everything, the cooking, the planning, and the amount of information we need to remember on a daily basis, of who needs to be where at what time, who needs to take what to school, who we need to buy a birthday present for, is proper cognitive labour. If you ask your husband to do it, he probably will, but it’s just another fucking thing that you need to do in asking. If he’s anything like mine, he’ll be a good husband and a good dad, but he just will not ‘carry’ it all in the way that you do.

School is term time, 9-3. 6 weeks to navigate over the summer. Arranging work, sorting childcare, trying to do activities with them to keep them and yourself sane (still not sleeping, still often listening to screaming).

Then there’s the cultural and social pressure. Can’t breastfeed? Failed. Had a C section? Failed. Oh they have to share a bedroom? Failed again. Are you feeding them well? Are they on track developmentally? Are they making friends and coping at school?

This model of motherhood may not be what everyone experiences, but if it what you experience, this level of pressure, expectation and sheer workload on mothers is actively cruel. It’s a feminist issue, and I have been radicalised. I feel actual anger at the way mothers are treated at a societal level.

I have two children. I work part time in a career that I love. My husband is also doing his best, just like me. But the pressure and expectation, and sacrifice of self, work, and autonomy is just not the same. I’m not depressed, I love my children desperately and I enjoy my life. This is not really a discussion about my own personal motherhood, but the general pattern within society.

Anyone else?

All the claps.

Smash the patriarchy.

There is a better way!

Ashleighz88 · 03/03/2026 16:59

MrsCompayson · 03/03/2026 16:46

Good for you x I met my husband through a left wing organisation, he talked a good game, now my husband reminds me daily that he doesn't have anything for his lunch tomorrow, in a pathetic whinging voice, because I am home educating in the day time with my two boys I should make it, how did this happen to me?

The thing is all these people saying "I wouldn't have kids with someone that wouldn't be 50/50"

Before kids I'd have held my guns and said well I'm not doing more than you so I won't do it at all, you lose your bargaining power because you will not let your children down. Your number 1 priority is your child. So if it means my child is going in nursery in a badly ironed top by his dad then I'm doing it. Therefore you end up just doing everything because the love for your child is so strong.

The majority of men do not have the same attention to detail. And therefore it's a toss up between dropping standards for your child or not being as exhausted. I cannot help wanting everything to be done right and to be best ability for my child.

also I think before children you don't realise that a lot of the time your child will want you to do things or you'll want to make sure they are ok and it leads to you doing everything!

I always say to all my friends now that if you are the main household person before kids prepare for exhaustion!

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IWantThisJob · 03/03/2026 17:11

ikeepforgetting · 03/03/2026 15:20

Great post OP and I agree with every word. Sadly I married a liar and a gaslighter so my feminism was set aside to survive - now I am on the other side of divorce and in my 50s, the blinkers are off and I (gently, for now) am encouraging my DD to de-centre men and concentrate on building herself into an independent and values-driven young woman who can spot bullshitters a mile off.

I will be 100% doing this with my daughters as they grow. I like the phrase ‘de-centre men’!

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SingleSexSchoolsRuleOK · 03/03/2026 17:11

@Cosmication said "I grieved for all their talents and passions they must have had in their hearts, quietly tucked away, never to see the light of day."

Absolutely, with bells on.

My teen DDs don't want DC. They sing the chorus of Labour (Paris Paloma) when DP asks me something they think he ought to manage on his own.

Jadzya · 03/03/2026 17:13

Yanbu but men have a right to statutory shared parental leave.
If they don't take it that's on them.

IPM · 03/03/2026 17:13

IWantThisJob · 03/03/2026 12:49

For me to actively want my children to have their own children in the future, I’d need to see a radical overhaul of the motherhood model. I can’t say I blame them!

This is interesting because you refer to your 'children'.

So you had more than one despite feeling the way you do?

IWantThisJob · 03/03/2026 17:19

worldshottestmom · 03/03/2026 15:50

This was so refreshing to read, thanks so much for posting it. Summed up how ive been feeling since my first pregnancy tbh. I feel like im drowning right now. Left a very long term DV/DA relationship. Dealing with the fallout of that and the harrowing mental impact it has had on me. All while trying to raise two very young children alone, one with quite intense SEN. On sick leave until my youngest is settled in nursery or I cannot actually work. Called lazy / scrounger / making excuses for this. I have no family to help, no friends close by. Fighting for my life financially and have to carry on each day with a smile on my face and talk to people who's biggest problem is what colour theyre going to paint their front door. Entertain the kids to no end. Do everything to make sure theyre happy and safe and well-cared for. With noone ever checking in. Just the same old 'youre doing a great job!' Like it is any sort of constellation. Im exhausted, im drained, im burnt out, and im really fucking sad.

Meanwhile accused of and shunned for 'destroying my family' as of my ex wasnt the one hurting me, refusing to contribute, refusing to raise his kids, abusing me every single day. Gets to live a new life guilt free telling people how awful i am. I just feel in an absolute whirlwind all the time and its soul-crushing. I love my children dearly, they are brilliant and I am so grateful to call them my own. I just wish I had someone else to help, and I feel guilty writing that because as you said, reuqiring any form of help as mother = failure. The same old 'you had kids, theyre your responsibility', like yeah so did the man who completely neglected them and abused me, but he doesnt deal with any fallout, right. Im so fed up of it all. Sorry for the rant. A lot of people on here really dont seem to like me and well, its because im dealing with all of this and I let it show in who I am and what im like. I hate myself sometimes, other times have to be my own mother and reassure myself not to be so self-critical. Anyway, sorry for the rant. Really great post and have enjoyed reading the comments.

Rant away. That sounds so massively shit. I’m so sympathetic. Nothing I can say will make you feel any better about all of this, this is a LOT and how you feel is so valid. Soul crushing just about sums it up, you’re right. That said, congratulations on breaking free!

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IWantThisJob · 03/03/2026 17:20

Cosmication · 03/03/2026 16:56

Luckily I became a feminist very young after seeing the impact of motherhood on my own mother. I remember having a moment where it hit me how many women throughout history had put themselves aside (their dreams, ambitions and intellectual potential) in order to focus on their societal and motherhood roles. I feel like I grieved for all of those women who must have watched men become great thinkers, artists, writers, scientists and leaders; while they (the women) cooked dinner and looked after the kids and elderly day in day out. I grieved for all their talents and passions they must have had in their hearts, quietly tucked away, never to see the light of day. The pain of that still feels so immense.
I know things are not as bad as that now but I still feel the huge injustice of it all like a punch in the stomach. Needless to say I decided not to have children!

Blimey, that resonates

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SeaShelli · 03/03/2026 17:22

I agree with absolutely everything, op.

Iocanepowder · 03/03/2026 17:22

Agree op.

Even if DH took on half the mental load, i would still be at a massive disadvantage to him in terms of money and career but mostly, my physical health, which has really taken a hit since pregnancy and birth.

Most people don’t listen though. We actively tell people not to have kids, they do anyway, and then they also struggle.

IWantThisJob · 03/03/2026 17:25

IPM · 03/03/2026 17:13

This is interesting because you refer to your 'children'.

So you had more than one despite feeling the way you do?

A helpful contribution.

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Vigorouslysnuggled · 03/03/2026 17:27

Completely agree OP. Society does not value mothers or the work we do. Women are expected to stick their babies in nursery and earn money and not look after their own children. I am going to tell mine not to have any,

boxofbuttons · 03/03/2026 17:27

I agree. And agree with the PP that says there's it's no wonder the birth rate is down. I watched some of my best friends have children and even though there is so much good, it is so drastically, life-alteringly hard and disproportionately on the women that I felt radicalised too - it's a very big part of why I don't want any of my own and why I try very hard to be a good villager to the women around me with kids.

IPM · 03/03/2026 17:27

IWantThisJob · 03/03/2026 17:25

A helpful contribution.

Eh?

Perhaps I should rephrase it if you're somehow offended (really struggling to see why though).

What changed after you had your second one?

Genuine question.

Thingything · 03/03/2026 17:28

Have you considered the models in other countries (I'm thinking Scandinavia) and the economic and political models necessary to support a less patriarchal society?

Spoiler alert - lot more taxes.

Thingything · 03/03/2026 17:29

IPM · 03/03/2026 17:27

Eh?

Perhaps I should rephrase it if you're somehow offended (really struggling to see why though).

What changed after you had your second one?

Genuine question.

I assume she loves her kids but hates patriarchy? Gotta have kids to get them to do things different.

SatsumaDog · 03/03/2026 17:30

I completely agree op. I love my children, but would I do it again knowing what I know now? Probably not. The personal cost is too high.

IPM · 03/03/2026 17:37

Thingything · 03/03/2026 17:29

I assume she loves her kids but hates patriarchy? Gotta have kids to get them to do things different.

True, but how is that different for her kids if they decide to have their own?

What I mean is, the OP was happy to have kids under these circumstances so what's the difference if they do?

Tiddlywinkly · 03/03/2026 17:38

Jadzya · 03/03/2026 17:13

Yanbu but men have a right to statutory shared parental leave.
If they don't take it that's on them.

I had to laugh at that. The take up is something like 2%. It's a token gesture from the government. Many families can't afford for men to take it.

YourSassyPanda · 03/03/2026 17:42

Agree with everything you say. I think this happened to me too. Even silly things like if people popped over unexpectedly and the dc had toys everywhere and the washing was piling up, they would make “jokey” comments to me about having my hands full and not DH, even though we both worked full time and were both parents. He never experienced the pressure (and judgement!) of having to be on top of things in the same way.

Thingything · 03/03/2026 17:46

Tiddlywinkly · 03/03/2026 17:38

I had to laugh at that. The take up is something like 2%. It's a token gesture from the government. Many families can't afford for men to take it.

You make it sound like this isn't a thing that can be changed! Companies need to be forced to give the same Ts and Cs to men taking paternity leave as women. Most companies offer enhanced benefits to women on maternity leave (ie: a few months at full pay or higher than statutory minimum), but the men only statutory minimum for paternity / shared parental. This is an outrage. My former employer equalized between male and female employees - it meant reducing the package of enhanced benefits for women but I was fully supportive as it meant men could take the same.

namechange272727 · 03/03/2026 17:49

It’s much easier to understand/ care about things when you’ve experienced them firsthand. I agree with what you say op. The thing that really radicalised me was having a tfmr. I was always pro choice before, but never understood it on a visceral level until it happened to me, now I am pro choice for any reason at any gestation, which I never would have foreseen before.

Blueyrocks · 03/03/2026 17:52

Passionately agree. Systematic and in some ways biological and therefore insurmountable differences in mothers Vs fathers experiences of parenting, however feminist everyone is at the start.

I feel lied to ("can have it all" my arse) and full of rage. BUT I have 3 kids, don't regret them in the slightest and truly hope they feel able to make the same completely irrational and idiotically optimistic decision I did.

I just think mothers shouldn't have to work unless they want to, until their kids are ... Well, that's up for debate, but school age as the absolute lower limit. And in addition should have all sorts of support, like a few hours of childcare a week so they can exercise, and postnatal physio as standard, and support with re-entry to work.

Jadzya · 03/03/2026 17:53

Tiddlywinkly · 03/03/2026 17:38

I had to laugh at that. The take up is something like 2%. It's a token gesture from the government. Many families can't afford for men to take it.

Many men can't be arsed looking after kids. That is the main reason for low take up imo.