Dubai/UAE - where did you think you were?

[WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing]

I’ll preface this by saying I wish the best for anyone out there, working or holidaying. I hope you are and remain safe.

but do people go there with next to no concern for where in the world it’s located? Do they pay no attention to news or the general geopolitical situation, it’s hnot exactly a secret.

are we really that dense that most people don’t look past the bling, the weather, the tax perks, the bloody influencers?

So in your book, people visiting, say, apartheid South Africa, should have respected the laws and culture? Or what about people visiting Taliban Afghanistan - should they respect that the laws and culture right now forbid women from schooling?

What a gem of a post 🤣

Right - so human rights atrocities are "fabricated rubbish". I'm alright Jack seems to be a theme

Exactly. I'm anti more migration myself but I hate in when some people say refugees feeding war, or people fleeing poverty, should 'go back and help the country', but not people leaving the UK for abroad, including Dubai.

That law has not actually been passed anyway. A horrible Tennessee man wanted it but he couldn't get enough votes to run it, unsurprisingly

DH kept changing on about going, he wants to go via Emirates in the massive plane. I told him over my dead body. I will never go to UAE!

That post is factually inaccurate. America has not passed any such law. A tennesse Republican wanted to run it, but he couldn't enough votes to, unsurprisingly. It certainly did not pass.

Use a tad more critical thinking.

Orban probably. I would still go there but Orban is grim.

It used to be legal to batter your wife in the UK - my mum was in an abusive marriage in the 80s and battering your wife was just a domestic

So because the UK criminal justice system lets women down Saudi law is Ok?

Re women. That's where we are?

The point is that some people here, including me, would argue that it is immoral to go to such places and arguably give suppprt to their unjust laws by following them.

If you went to South Africa in the 80s, would you argue tourists should just shut up and obey the apartheid laws?

That's where some women on this thread are, apparently. Very 'I'm alright, Jack!'

No, I don't think people should visit undemocratic states like Cuba.

How is it snobbery?

All the people I know who've gone to Dubai are well-off.

I wonder if this was in the PPs mind

The case is notable as the first attempt, at least in the state, to charge a pregnant woman for suffering a miscarriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_v._Jones

Is this more or less nauseous to you?

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www.newyorker.com/the-runaway-princesses&ved=2ahUKEwjTm96SqYGTAxXaU0EAHdLbA5AQFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2DRw5ySs6XVR1mSlQatUqd

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/25/kafala-labour-system-gulf-women-talk-about-life-as-a-domestic-worker-in-the-gulf

Remember also it us illegal to criticise the government.

Maybe- disturbing. It did not pass though.

I would definitely rule out non democracies like China & Cuba. Some people are also thinking of democracy and morality of government.

How bad is the conflict in NI though? America is not at war or next to a war zone either.

This time.

White western colonialism still writ large it seems. We know better. We are better. Everyone should be like us 🤢

What do you think of this?

I'd rather be a fun sponge (what a childish view 🤣) than ignore this

indeed.
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www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct854r
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www.newyorker.com/the-runaway-princesses&ved=2ahUKEwjTm96SqYGTAxXaU0EAHdLbA5AQFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2DRw5ySs6XVR1mSlQatUqd

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/25/kafala-labour-system-gulf-women-talk-about-life-as-a-domestic-worker-in-the-gulf
Remember also it us illegal to criticise the government.

What?

So do you think we should be more like Dubai?

Do you not think it's possible for some Western countries to be objectively better on some counts than some non-Western countries?

How is that 'white colonialism'?

I don't think people challenging human rights issues in other countries means that everyone should be like us

There's a middle ground. It's not only about danger but about morality & democracy.

I'm with you OP. I've never understood why any sane woman would go anywhere near the middle east. Israel maybe, but none of the Arab states.

Find yourself on your own in any of them and you are at a serious disadvantage. I travelled a lot on business, sometimes alone and it doesn't matter how well planned, booked in advance, how well financed your credit card.

Spot on

There is a convincing argument that the concept of human rights is very much a western european christian one.