Today's by-election... how do you think it will go?

[Westfacing]

A few months back according to the media it was Reform's for the taking - now it's a three-way bet between Labour, Greens and Reform

That was true. It’s good to see Labour can’t rely on it either. Their arrogance is likely putting people off too. Even the interviews this morning won’t help them.

Although 'family voting' may be a buzzword, it is generally in relation to families where this occurs. The law was changed in 2023 specifically to make this an offence.

Since 2023:

A person who is with another person at a polling booth, and intends to influence that other person to vote in a particular way or to refrain from voting, commits an offence.

I don't get how the right/pro Israeli lobby, see nothing at all wrong with 75k deaths, mostly civilians.

We are all horrified at what Russia is doing to the civilian population in Ukraine but when Israel does far worse in Gaza and increasingly so the West Bank.... thats all ok.

We sanction Russia but arm Israel.

You've only got to look at the Governments recently released white paper on SEND, (which I have massive problems - but that's for another thread) - where there is a massive shift to embracing AI in the education sector to see that people are going to lose jobs and opportunities to create jobs are disappearing because of this. While it will not replace teachers etc. jobs that might have been done by admin staff will be reduced etc. This is happening in all sectors.

Obviously, I am not talking about refuse collectors, or nurses or bus drivers but not everyone is going to do these jobs. A sensible discussions needs to be had before it's too late (arguable this should have happened already). Why do you think so many graduates are working in supermarkets, because many entry level jobs have gone for various reasons, one of which is the rise of AI

Many of the systems are already in place in many organisations.

That’s not what family voting means. It’s someone going into the polling booth with you and standing next to you as you cast your vote. It’s illegal.

This. Hopefully it’ll make this govt u turn on the idea of giving votes to 16 year olds.

Yet no complaints made when polls were open.... the officials in the polling stations haven't report this either.... duty bound to do so....

Did Ukraine launch an assault on Russia beforehand, filming women being raped to death while having their breasts cut off and slaughtering children? Are the Greens officially supporting this ‘armed struggle’? I must’ve missed it.

So we don't let people vote unless they vote the way we want....

I wish a party would they’ll tax AI/robot use instead of increasing NI contributions to actually promote human employment - we know the gains to society and individuals from working and being productive stretch far beyond financial. It’s as if the goal is for the govt to pay benefits for people to lie in bed watching Netflix buying robot made plastic from China funded by tax from a few bazillionaires raking in profits from their robot workforce.

Same defence used by all regimes (almost always 'right wing) when they punish civilian populations for the actions of terrorists.

IDF still killing civilians daily, despite the "ceasefire"

They daren’t -for obvious reasons! In the same way I didnt dare complain to the (prestigious) car company when taxi arrived late and then the driver then ignored me (single woman) and put down a mat in the car park and proceeded to pray for 10mins.

I don’t see how the polling station staff would/could ever allow this. If they do, what could be the justification? That the person can’t read the names on the paper?

Must say that in all my years of religiously voting every time, I’ve never seen anyone looking over someone else’s shoulder as they placed their X.

Did Ukraine launch an assault on Russia beforehand

No, and Israel's flagrant disregard for Human Rights, International Law, and civilian collateral casualties every time it embarks on one of it's many military adventures did not begin on October 8th 2024 either, so this idea this all came about as a result of the Oct 7th incursion is and always has been total nonsense.

I don't know why anyone thinks Reform are reliably GC anyway. We all saw that shitshow last year over prisons. Farage clearly doesn't give a fuck.

The party in the UK most committed to women's sex based rights is the Communist Party of Britain, who weren't standing. The next most is probably the Tories under Kemi, with the obvious caveats, and they were never going to figure.

@SirChenjins Sorry, but I have to very respectfully call you out on this.
To be honest I think what you've written is very offensive. No decent human being, especially any decent woman, would be anything other than utterly horrified by the thought of women being victims of sexual violence. You really need to be careful before you say things like that, as you don't know anyone's personal history. I myself don't agree with The Green Party's views on the trans issue, and I'm passionately opposed to biological males in women-only spaces. But, we live in such a complex world, and there are so many issues. It's impossible to vote in a perfect way. Reform are dangerous fascists, with many actual misogynists in their ranks, who've said things that wouldn't be out of place in The Handmaids Tale. If voting Green is the only way to keep out Reform in my area at the next election, I would certainly do It.
Reform are infinitely more dangerous for women, and human beings generally, not to mention animals and the environment, than any other political party in Britain at the moment.
Please be a bit more careful with the things you say to other women on here. It's very offensive to suggest to women that they don't care about other women being victims of sexual violence. I'm not the poster you were speaking to; but I winced when I read your post, as I don't think I'd recover if someone said something similar to me, for personal reasons. I don't think anything horrifies me more than sexual violence.
Allegations such as those you made don't come across as good faith debate or discussion, just a means of shutting down conversation by causing guilt and shame (I apologise if that's not the case, and I misunderstood you)
Not helpful anyway.
Thank you.

Spot on.

As ever it was, the radical left party supporters will feel comfortable celebrating publicly, because their flavour of authoritarianism is far more tasteful dahling 😉

The loss entirely sits with Starmer. He put his personal political position ahead of putting up a candidate that could have won.

Oh so we are now adding violence and intimidation to the charge sheet...

Even if not challenged at the time, polling officials are not now coming forward and saying this happened.... not notes taken... nothing.

Next you'll be saying Muslims came in and took the boxes away....

And their votes will be just as valid in the next GE!

The result is catastrophic for Starmer in so many ways. It's another total humiliation for him - the amount of coverage of this by-election last night was insane. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

The plotters have been circling for months Keir is a bloody limpet and I’m not sure how is is still standing.

he needs to go as recon and green are both crazy in separate measures.

id rather have Tory’s back if I’m honest.

I think Starmer will probably go after the May elections.

I find this a really nonsensical argument.

If you do the whole ‘going back to its original owner’, which very famous Jew most definitely lived in ‘Palestine’ aka Nazareth 2000 years ago?

It wasn’t until 636 CE that ‘Palestine’ was captured via Islamic Conquest (yep - Imperialism, dressed up as something else!), so strictly speaking, they came after.

So, according to your rulebook, remind me again how ‘Palestinians’ are the rightful owners of ‘Palestine’?

Yes it was big. And I think local elections will favour Reform more as the vote is now back in all areas.

Labour MP spinning hard this morning but it’ll just annoy people even more. Too much self preservation and arrogance.