Do you have, or know another woman, with a very sweet voice?

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There’s a certain type of very sweet voice that I’ve noticed a few times in American women who are either Christian Fundamentalist, or what for want of a better description, male centred in their views. The women in the Warren Jeff’s cult were the most extreme example.

I’ve never met a woman irl who speaks in that pitch, including women from all over Europe, South Africa, Australia, Russia, etc. Nor do any of my American friends talk like that.

Is it a dialect? Is it trained? I can’t even imitate it properly, and I don’t think I could keep it up even if I could, it must be exhausting if it’s put on. And why? Do men like squeaky saccharine voices?

Like a high pitched voice?
I do, if I try and pitch my voice lower it just hurts my throat.
If I ever need to shout I just sound shrill.

I think it's quite a nice voice for reading out loud though.

Oh right just listened to her and no that wasn't what I was thinking of when I referred to lead singer of Mazzy Star. There is a difference between a softer voice that comes from shyness maybe.

A good example of the fundamental voice is Michelle Duggar, it’s purposely used to appear submissive, weak and child like.

Some people just have naturally soft voices. Sometimes as well having tonsils removed results in a higher pitched voice. I’m not convinced they are ALL faking it

I have a friend in the UK with a sweet, high pitched voice. It's not put on. I've known her over 20 years and met her when she was 16. She is very feminine but it is just who she is, she isn't doing it to please men, she isn't male centred in her views, she is a kind and lovely woman's woman. She is financially independent, she gets stuck in with the DIY, her partner gets stuck in with the day to day cleaning and childcare.

Thankfully, no. I’d be wanting to punch them.

Ha my kids always say I speak really soft and gently to wee ones and old folks then the true Scots woman in me really appears when I've been drinking or with friends.

Those cult girls you speak of are trained to speak that way.

Like Melanie Griffith?

@Firesparks its a sample of one, but I've had my tonsils out!

I knew a Scotswoman at work who had a very high and sweet voice, not put on, as it was over a period of years. It was not unlike Shirley Henderson's voice.

DH tells me that I sound like a young public schoolboy, sometimes referring to me as Jennings. (not exactly sweet.)

I had a theory about this when I was younger, because I had a boyfriend who's Mother spoke like that. She had men wrapped around her little finger including her son's and was the most manipulative person I had ever met.

Sure enough any woman I met after that, who spoke that way, was of the same type until I met a really lovely lady and I kept expecting to catch her out somehow but it just never happened, she was genuinely sweet and kind. It did turn out years later that her husband was severely abusing her and her children. So I think it's either being submissive to men or maybe wanting to appear submissive to men, whether that's for manipulation or protection, I'm not sure.

I have a young voice for a middle aged woman
I just have, no training to be girly or ditzy 😅

I think it's down to abject disapproval at any sign of sounding authoritative or, God forbid, confident about anything.

One of my ex's main complaints about me (along with failing at womanhood because I walked with my feet rather than on demi-pointe, particularly when barefoot) was that my voice got too deep and manly if I dared sound like I knew what I was talking about (actually knowing stuff was the third strike, IIRC).

I would think that somebody who hasn't got the freedom to kick arseholes like that into touch would eventually be pretty much unable to speak with a chest voice or project using diaphragmatic breathing.

I save squeaking for dealing with the cat. Although, in fairness, he generally ignores me then as well - it's the voice that comes from the depths of hell my body growling 'do not make me get up' that gets his nose out of the bin.

It is trained. The training happens within the homes of fundamentalist patriarchs. (I don't call them Christian).

It's for the benefit of men who prefer childlike women, or who prefer to think of women as occupying a place somewhere just above children in the hierarchy whose pinnacle the men occupy.

There is a woman named Tia Levings who has written of her years in the sort of culture where women have to adhere to standards of behaviour that can be summarized as "keep sweet". She escaped.

I know a lady in her late 70s from Georgia (the US state, not the country) and she has a voice like this. I really love hearing her talk, though! She just has the loveliest Southern belle accent, and she calls me things like ‘baby’ and ‘sugar’. I love her voice, but only on her!

Probably because she’s one of the sweetest people I’ve ever met in my life, and her voice matches her personality!

Oh i used to.work.with small children and i had a voice for them probably so I didn't scare them😂

My eldest Dd has a lovely.lilty accent i have no clue where she gets it from.

Yes. 'Keeping sweet' is a huge part of fundie culture. There's a lot of discussion of this online in relation to the Duggars, Bates and adjacent families. It sounds an exhausting way to live one's life.

I really don't want to give her anymore airtime but search up jill rodriguez, fundie knob end, her kids are 100% this. She's an absolute knob end.

Yep, one of my best friends! Loveliest girl, but she has a really young, coochie coo voice. The funny thing is, her husband is the same. They both talk very softly to their late teen daughter, who also does it too. For a long time I couldn’t work if it was an act!

Do you mean like that woman with the closed eyes who interviewed Meghan Markle, and said 'mmmmm' a lot?

It’s sometimes called a Keep Sweet voice or a ‘fundie baby’ voice. They put it on and there are documentaries around the baby soft voice they do.

Agree, it's not 'sweet' is it. Why do grown women want to talk like a toddler?

Reece from the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader documentary is the perfect example of this. She freaks me the fuck out.

I dont know if its the same thing but I have a high "babyish" voice. At work people double check they have the right number, at home (when we had a landline) people used to ask to speak to my parents. Id change it if I could but its my normal voice